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« on: December 08, 2005, 02:29:14 PM »

Former Chicago track announcer, Scott Ehrlich, had his horse Betruetous racing at Cal-po loast night.  Don't remember the race, but the call was classic.  Betruetous was the #10 in the field or ten.  He started in the second-tier ( probably for weather reasons).   The race shaped up perfect for his racing style.  A 27 and change opening quarter led to a pretty swift pace for the pacer to run at.  After being asked to keep up for nearly an eighth of a mile, the pacer, along with driver Jim Lackey picked up some live cover.  As tje field turned for home, the front end began to collapse and Betruetous appeared to be the one with the most pace in the center of nthe track.  Scott noticed him charging down the lane and agve him a winning call.  Unfortunately for him, driver Rick Plano had other plans for the pacer.  He blew right by at the 1/16 pole much   
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 03:33:23 PM »

Former Chicago track announcer, Scott Ehrlich, had his horse Betruetous racing at Cal-po loast night.  Don't remember the race, but the call was classic.  Betruetous was the #10 in the field or ten.  He started in the second-tier ( probably for weather reasons).   The race shaped up perfect for his racing style.  A 27 and change opening quarter led to a pretty swift pace for the pacer to run at.  After being asked to keep up for nearly an eighth of a mile, the pacer, along with driver Jim Lackey picked up some live cover.  As tje field turned for home, the front end began to collapse and Betruetous appeared to be the one with the most pace in the center of nthe track.  Scott noticed him charging down the lane and agve him a winning call.  Unfortunately for him, driver Rick Plano had other plans for the pacer.  He blew right by at the 1/16 pole much   

He didn't give him a winning call, you putz.  He said "come on wire" because he knew The Gangster was closing quickly.  Solid race by Betruetous, and a nice $1,050 check to Scott.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 03:50:32 PM »

Come on wire is not something I would want to hear from a track announcer If I Bet the closing horse. A little unprofessional in my opinion.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2005, 03:52:30 PM »

Come on wire is not something I would want to hear from a track announcer If I Bet the closing horse. A little unprofessional in my opinion.

Whether or not he says it, it doesn't alter the outcome of the race....

At the same time, I have to agree.  You have to call it straight.

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2005, 04:42:53 PM »

I don't want to start rumors or spread anything false, so I'm going to apply this disclaimer to my following statement. I don't know how true or false this is, I don't even care how true or false it is to be honest with you guys, because it has nothing to do with me, but I heard from a good driver/trainer friend out in Cal that they aren't to thrilled with Scott. I have heard some details, especially about some sort of underhanded dealings, but I am not going to say anything specific because I have know way of knowing if its true or not.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2005, 05:46:53 PM »

EW,

This putz has been listening to race calls for many years, especially Scott and Gil Levine.  These two are notorious for getting excited when the horse they've bet on has a chance.  Gil a little more than Scott, but Scott is not far behind.  I could only see him eye-balling his horse as he was counting the cash.  His tone changed real quick when Plano got even with him.  I didn't hear him say come on wire, but if he did, not too professional indeed.  Since you talk to him frequently, tell him all of us feel bad here in Chi-town for him.  That's what he gets for trying to "Hot-Dog his call.  Plano served some justice!!!  Listen to the race call again, putz!!!! 

P.S.  At least he could feed the horse for another week with that purse-check.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2005, 06:22:45 PM »

I don't want to start rumors or spread anything false, so I'm going to apply this disclaimer to my following statement. I don't know how true or false this is, I don't even care how true or false it is to be honest with you guys, because it has nothing to do with me, but I heard from a good driver/trainer friend out in Cal CHITOWN that they aren't to thrilled with Scott CHITOWN STAN. I have heard some details, especially about some sort of underhanded dealings, but I am not going to say anything specific because I have know way of knowing if its true or not.

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 09:05:04 PM »

IMO that was a very unprofessional call!  You can't say come on wire, thats pretty bush league but I guess it is CalX.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 09:21:55 PM »

That would be like John Madden Yelling "fumble the ball" on Monday Night Football
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2005, 12:13:17 AM »

          scott probably gambled on his horse and forgot where he was at ! how many times have I heard that phrase come on wire . not very professional I agree . but as a gambler I can understand his mistake . he just got caught up in the moment . gil was way worse when he was getting a bad drive on his bet , he would just about say that the driver was a dummy . remember how he use to say the driver chose to not pull and he's locked in and will stay locked in ! that was always gil's bet ! and then the rest of the race he would be low keyed on his calls liked he was bored . sure he was bored his bet was dead . point of the story we all make mistakes and I'm sure scott knows he made a big one . anyways its nearing christmas and I'm not knocking anyone till new years day .  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes        RTP
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 02:56:15 AM »

Phil, do you think as the Director of Publicity and someone who has direct contact with drivers and trainers, that its fair to the betting public for a guy like this to wager? To me, its just another reason that the sports going down hill. Pretty soon, guys like Erlich and horseman will be just wagering against themselves, because there will be no general betting public to bet against.

And that leads me to another thing. If that man had anything to do with winning that pick six, he should be fired immediately. In my eyes, that is no different then the pick six breeders cup scandal of a few years back. If management had Cal Expo had any balls, or gave a damn about the sport, they would look into this. Unfortunately, management doesn't wish to clean up the sport for some reason.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2005, 03:12:10 AM »

Phil, do you think as the Director of Publicity and someone who has direct contact with drivers and trainers, that its fair to the betting public for a guy like this to wager? To me, its just another reason that the sports going down hill. Pretty soon, guys like Erlich and horseman will be just wagering against themselves, because there will be no general betting public to bet against.

And that leads me to another thing. If that man had anything to do with winning that pick six, he should be fired immediately. In my eyes, that is no different then the pick six breeders cup scandal of a few years back. If management had Cal Expo had any balls, or gave a damn about the sport, they would look into this. Unfortunately, management doesn't wish to clean up the sport for some reason.

So Mike Paradise and Tom Kelley should also not be able to bet?  Bullshit.

You can find more out walking around the paddock and making the right phone calls.  These interviews are smash and bang in between drives.

The sport needs to be cleaned up, but people also have to be reasonable.

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 03:26:43 AM »

When your talking about the pick six the size that it was at Cal Expo, it shouldn't be won by an employee at the track and a member of management if thats what your asking. It might be perfectly legal, and nobody might care, but what if the "Director of Publicity" at Harrahs Casino were to hit a highly publicized carry over on a Harrahs Casino machine. Would that be looked down upon by the General Public and Harrahs Patrons? You bet it would.

You have your opinions Edward, and I have mine, but I will state one fact. It looks bad on the sport. You can't argue that.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 03:29:25 AM »

         Dont worry they will just use Scotts horse to gamble. Plano caught a nice EXACTA with his horse second, their were only a few live horses in that race. They know Scotts a gambler and will not tell him anything. His BIG MOUTH gets the best of him. Better luck next time. PS maybe next time will be your turn, you never no do yah!!!!! Embarrassed
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2005, 09:10:48 AM »

Phil, do you think as the Director of Publicity and someone who has direct contact with drivers and trainers, that its fair to the betting public for a guy like this to wager? To me, its just another reason that the sports going down hill. Pretty soon, guys like Erlich and horseman will be just wagering against themselves, because there will be no general betting public to bet against.

And that leads me to another thing. If that man had anything to do with winning that pick six, he should be fired immediately. In my eyes, that is no different then the pick six breeders cup scandal of a few years back. If management had Cal Expo had any balls, or gave a damn about the sport, they would look into this. Unfortunately, management doesn't wish to clean up the sport for some reason.

It is the case almost every where that every one can bet unless they are "licensed racing officials". People with state licenses like stewards and judges who can effec the outcome of a race. I dont think track announcers and publicty directors have to get licensed by the state. Every track you bet Stan you are probaly betting with or against many track employes from the lowest to the president. As well as all the horsemen and owners. Sorry to pop your bubble that Ehrlich is doing something out of the ordinary.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2005, 09:36:33 AM »

He's been gone a month and he still makes headlines here in Chicago. The fact is he is wearing out his welcome in hurry at Cal. He begged for a little camera time to give changes prior to the card. That c'mon wire statement is nothing new he did it all the time here. Anybody who continues to go to bat for this guy has to be a complete simpleton. He is avoided like the plague by everyone except a small circle of degenerate's that he hangs with. He is oblivoius to anyone but himself when it comes to his race calls. For him to be begging for the wire over the mike. And to be heard across the country doing is as umprofessional as you get. And this guy edward must be a scott cronie defends him like a defense attorney. He behavior here in Chicago left a lot of people bitter. The guy who hired Scott must be kicking himself. For a general manager to have to reprimand a 40 something man continously on how to do his job. And tell him what to say and what not to say speaks for it self. Edward your slip showing.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2005, 10:33:50 AM »

Potra, I wish we had more Edward Williams that were interested in the sport. More people his age that were interested in calling races and are passionate about the sport as he is.

Richard, Politicians lie, cheat, and steal. Gang warfare is rampant. Our big cities our devoured in crime. The list goes on and on, and is it out of the ordinary?? NO of course not. Is it wrong?? Yes it is. Thats all I'm stating here, I think its wrong. If its not wrong, why don't Cal make a big deal about it and not cover it up? Why don;t we see the headline on the USTA, ANNOUNCER/PUB DIRECTOR HITS BIGGEST PICK SIX IN TRACK HISTORY! If its not so wrong and not out of the ordinary, why not publicly congratulate the guy on being one of a few who had the smarts to pick the right horses!
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2005, 11:28:32 AM »

In a way I feel bad for Scott.  I would hate to have to relocate to Sacramento of all places just because I'm hated by the public I announced for every night.  I mean, how would anyone feel to be bashed 24/7 like he was and is.  I'd go crazy.  As a result of all this, he unadmittedly gets forced to relocate to a diiferent part of the country because he wore out his welcome in Chicago.  How long do you think it will be before he does the same at Cal-Expo?  The small group of losers that defend him have to get their head examined.  They're more full of crap than Scott telling people he doesn't look on the forum anymore.  Yeah right.  He's on there seconds after a post about him goes up, and furthermore he's on the phone with Janine telling her to take the post down.  How long is she gonna keep catering to all the cry babies who can dish it out but cannot take it?  My hat's off to Plano for snapping Scott's horse.  All of us here in Chi-Town could not have been happier.           
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2005, 12:03:46 PM »

Well put, people on this forum have a right to voice there opinion. The mere fact he is even mentioned is because this guy is a cancer and continuously draws negative response time and time again, for his unprofessionalism. How many announcers do you know in the country are talked more about than this lout. Actually he is bad for the industry. And this time he's taken his act noticeably too far. This will be his last hurrah as an announcer. And he should just disappear in the grandstands and do his hollering and yelping there.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2005, 12:23:36 PM »

Richard, Politicians lie, cheat, and steal. Gang warfare is rampant. Our big cities our devoured in crime. The list goes on and on, and is it out of the ordinary?? NO of course not. Is it wrong?? Yes it is. Thats all I'm stating here, I think its wrong. If its not wrong, why don't Cal make a big deal about it and not cover it up? Why don;t we see the headline on the USTA, ANNOUNCER/PUB DIRECTOR HITS BIGGEST PICK SIX IN TRACK HISTORY! If its not so wrong and not out of the ordinary, why not publicly congratulate the guy on being one of a few who had the smarts to pick the right horses!

To start. I dont remeber read that Scott was part of the winning ticket. Did Edward ever say so?

As for cover up. We dont ever read names of who wins big pick 6 or superfecta anywhere. Why was this one different? Why do you think the winners names should be on USTA website for this?

Here is something for paranoid conspiracy people to consider. Maybe every big hit every where is took down by a track employee with there special insider employee knowledge. $34000 super? That was the food & beverage manager. $52000 Pick 4? You guessed it simulcast director. They dont realy need there salarys they just work there to take down $2 million pper year in bets. No players ever hit the big ones it is all track employes.Think about that all day.
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2005, 12:57:17 PM »

Richard, you bring up some good points, not enough to make me reconsider my stance however. But we can sit here and talk about problems all day, so lets switch gears a little bit and talk about solutions.

A track has a pick six going for a sizeable amount and it is hit. Why not glamorize and publicize the winners. The casinos have pictures of their big winners on the wall, why can't we? Anyway, as fas as Scott being a part of the pick six, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. If he wasn't, my points are mute. However, I have heard from good sources in CA that he was and was bragging about it. Maybe we should just ask Edward flat out. I trust and have the utmost respect for Edward because unlike many here, he conducts himself with class on this forum. So lets pose the question to him.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2005, 01:35:46 PM »

A track has a pick six going for a sizeable amount and it is hit. Why not glamorize and publicize the winners. The casinos have pictures of their big winners on the wall, why can't we?

Thats a good question. The lottery publicizes its big winners too. Maybe it is because horse bettors are always sneaking around trying to hide there big hits from the IRS child services relatives track panhandlers and parking lot muggers.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2005, 01:44:39 PM »

Former Chicago track announcer, Scott Ehrlich, had his horse Betruetous racing at Cal-po loast night.  Don't remember the race, but the call was classic.  Betruetous was the #10 in the field or ten.  He started in the second-tier ( probably for weather reasons).   The race shaped up perfect for his racing style.  A 27 and change opening quarter led to a pretty swift pace for the pacer to run at.  After being asked to keep up for nearly an eighth of a mile, the pacer, along with driver Jim Lackey picked up some live cover.  As tje field turned for home, the front end began to collapse and Betruetous appeared to be the one with the most pace in the center of nthe track.  Scott noticed him charging down the lane and agve him a winning call.  Unfortunately for him, driver Rick Plano had other plans for the pacer.  He blew right by at the 1/16 pole much   

Why can't you just leave Scott Ehrlich alone already? What has he done to you, or to anyone else for that matter? He's doing his job and not bothering anybody. He's NOT out cheating like the rest of the crooks in the business are. So what if he gets excited if his horse is racing. At least he doesn't rag all over drivers during a race call like Gil LeVine did when he was losing a bet he had on the race.

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2005, 02:29:27 PM »

In a way I feel bad for Scott.  I would hate to have to relocate to Sacramento of all places just because I'm hated by the public I announced for every night.  I mean, how would anyone feel to be bashed 24/7 like he was and is.  I'd go crazy.  As a result of all this, he unadmittedly gets forced to relocate to a diiferent part of the country because he wore out his welcome in Chicago.  How long do you think it will be before he does the same at Cal-Expo?  The small group of losers that defend him have to get their head examined.  They're more full of crap than Scott telling people he doesn't look on the forum anymore.  Yeah right.  He's on there seconds after a post about him goes up, and furthermore he's on the phone with Janine telling her to take the post down.  How long is she gonna keep catering to all the cry babies who can dish it out but cannot take it?  My hat's off to Plano for snapping Scott's horse.  All of us here in Chi-Town could not have been happier.           
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2005, 02:30:54 PM »

Thats a good question. The lottery publicizes its big winners too. Maybe it is because horse bettors are always sneaking around trying to hide there big hits from the IRS child services relatives track panhandlers and parking lot muggers.

Richard, I think the tracks can learn from the casinos since they are ones that are putting them on the brink of bankruptcy. The tracks should start posting big winners on the wall, why not? Maybe even give a free jacket or sweatshirt to winners of over 5,000 dollars saying on the back "I won big at Balmoral Park". It would be just one of a million ways the tracks can market themselves for a minimum investment.

But as I stated in other posts, harness racing has to clean up its own doorstep before letting people in. Clean up the game. Get the cheaters and cancers of the sport out of here.
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