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« on: August 28, 2006, 08:30:58 AM »

starting to hear rumblings of a bad tubing job?? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2006, 08:34:49 AM »

A bad tubing job by who?  Probably a stupid rumor.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2006, 08:39:11 AM »

i hope it is a stupid rumor because if i was the owner i would really want to know what went wrong that was a great horse if there was any funny business i would want the responsible party hung by the balls
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2006, 08:52:49 AM »

i hope it is a stupid rumor because if i was the owner i would really want to know what went wrong that was a great horse if there was any funny business i would want the responsible party hung by the balls

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I don't believe it is a stupid rumor as I was at the track this morning and heard from a VERY
reliable source that it was a mistake by a vet that did it.  That's all I'm going to say for now
as I'm sure the facts will come out very shortly.  It appears that a very simple pre-race day procedure was screwed up by this vet. If true, it is very unfortunate and this particular vet
in question has very close ties to an officer at Balmoral Park.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2006, 10:33:16 AM »

Heffering also owned In the Clouds, that great race mare that won about 11 straights races at the Meadowlands in the late 90s....there was no autopsy because there was no insurance on the mare....same vet??
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2006, 10:58:56 AM »

Heffering also owned In the Clouds, that great race mare that won about 11 straights races at the Meadowlands in the late 90s....there was no autopsy because there was no insurance on the mare....same vet??

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I'm not going to say anything further about it until all of the facts come out but I'm 100%
confident in the statement that I made.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2006, 11:04:57 AM »

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  That's all I'm going to say for now
as I'm sure the facts will come out very shortly.  It appears that a very simple pre-race day procedure was screwed up by this vet.

I sincerely hope you're right but common sense, especially if the link to Balmoral management is true, leads one to believe that this too will be swept under a rug and we have heard the last of it.
The crooks, cheats, and horse killers are currently still in business and will be tomorrow ad infinitum.

Nothing ever changes, especially in Chicago harness racing!!
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2006, 12:08:23 PM »

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I don't believe it is a stupid rumor as I was at the track this morning and heard from a VERY
reliable source that it was a mistake by a vet that did it.  That's all I'm going to say for now
as I'm sure the facts will come out very shortly.  It appears that a very simple pre-race day procedure was screwed up by this vet. If true, it is very unfortunate and this particular vet
in question has very close ties to an officer at Balmoral Park.

 How about a name Huh


 Bobby
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2006, 12:34:50 PM »

can someone help me out with Ill. medacation rules ... how close can a vet administer something to a horse that is in to go??
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2006, 12:49:24 PM »

How about a name Huh


 Bobby

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Please read my last post.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2006, 12:56:35 PM »

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Please read my last post.


 I did but please help me here I do not see a name or am I missing something ?

 Officer or Official ?


 Bobby
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2006, 01:33:00 PM »

I did but please help me here I do not see a name or am I missing something ?

 Officer or Official ?


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Superman--I mean Bobby--if you really read my last post I answered your question--why
would you ask for clarification when it's on the printed page?
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2006, 04:02:51 PM »

can someone help me out with Ill. medacation rules ... how close can a vet administer something to a horse that is in to go??

It depends on what that "something" is.
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2006, 04:35:33 PM »

can someone help me out with Ill. medacation rules ... how close can a vet administer something to a horse that is in to go??

As close as possible without getting caught. That might be in the IRB rule book? 
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2006, 04:40:30 PM »

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Superman--I mean Bobby--if you really read my last post I answered your question--why
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     No name so where is your credibility. Does the vet have a name or does he go by close ties to an official ?

 Superman--- whoops I mean Bobby Orr
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2006, 05:27:28 PM »

isnt phil Langleys son peter a vet?  I thought i heard that his son was a vet but dont quote me.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2006, 05:29:28 PM »

Yes Peter Langley is a vet in Illinois
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2006, 05:41:02 PM »

ouuuccchhh.
Yes Peter Langley is a vet in Illinois
ouuuccchhh that hurts.  laugh.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2006, 06:02:03 PM »





Let's wait for concrete info before running with he said she said info
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2006, 06:09:14 PM »

Let's wait for concrete info before running with he said she said info

I guarantee that most info they release to the public, on a situation like this, is hardly "concrete".
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2006, 08:16:29 PM »

Even if it is langley nothing is even gonna happen. things like this just disappear. especially in the chicago area. there are so many trainers who have positives and serve nothing, or pay any fines.
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2006, 08:57:03 PM »

At Balmoral the only mention was " and in the upcoming race scratch the 7 Leading X Ample. Exacta....."
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2006, 08:59:47 PM »

What I heard saturday night was that the horse was being stabled at Odds On, and the horse wasnt doing very good a few days before hand
But the story may just be a coverup
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2006, 09:43:20 PM »

odds on is robin schaddt.  this makes sense then.  petey Langely is prolly Robins vet and thats who killed accidently leading x ample or made a bad mistakee.  double ooouuuccchhhh!!
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2006, 09:44:50 PM »

odds on is robin schaddt.  this makes sense then.  petey Langely is prolly Robins vet and thats who killed accidently leading x ample or made a bad mistakee.  double ooouuuccchhhh!!

I like how the autopsy has not been completed and we are jumping to conclusions. Kind of like with this JonBenet case, we all were gungho with John Karr, and BOOM it was not him. Let's wait for results before this too blows up in our faces.
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2006, 09:56:23 PM »

This is what I heard from a peson stabled in the barn next to X AMPLE.  The horse was very colicy and was alive when put on the trailer to go to Purdue.  No mention of any vet.  I know 2nd hand info but thats the story I got.
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2006, 10:14:33 PM »

You posters need to be very careful who you falsely accuse in this unfortunate incident. You are very libel for your false accusations. Mr Langley is a very accomplished veterinarian, and very professional. Do not falsely accuse him on the website. Remember you are libel and could face litigation !
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2006, 10:22:50 PM »

odds on is robin schaddt.  this makes sense then.  petey Langely is prolly Robins vet and thats who killed accidently leading x ample or made a bad mistakee.  double ooouuuccchhhh!!
Were do you come up with this Sh**!
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2006, 10:56:33 PM »

isnt phil Langleys son peter a vet?  I thought i heard that his son was a vet but dont quote me.

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As I stated, I am holding off on any additional information from my prior post.  However, I will
say that you are going in the right direction.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2006, 11:18:51 PM »

I hope it not the vets fault.  x ampkle was a great horse with a big closing kick.  if Langley did it they should take away his license and he should pay for the horse.  thats 2 bad and i hope the autopsee shows something other then langley.  where does it stop? 
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2006, 01:57:36 AM »

i have seen first hand the "program" that robinson/elliot horses are on and unless you seen it for yourself you would be amazed at what these horses are put thru!!!! its very suspiscious that inside 48 hours of racetime this horse just "happens" to become sick and end up dieing!!!
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2006, 02:02:00 AM »

i have seen first hand the "program" that robinson/elliot horses are on and unless you seen it for yourself you would be amazed at what these horses are put thru!!!! its very suspiscious that inside 48 hours of racetime this horse just "happens" to become sick and end up dieing!!!

Colic of the lungs maybe?
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2006, 12:09:28 PM »

Careful guys, Mr. Un-clean says you could be in "libel". What a joke. Hey Clean, go take a sh*t somewhere.
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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2006, 12:12:42 PM »

Careful guys, Mr. Un-clean says you could be in "libel". What a joke. Hey Clean, go take a sh*t somewhere.

Someone might be printing posts and sending them to lawyers.
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2006, 12:18:04 PM »

Then "someone " has got way too much time on their hands. But you're right, it could happen.
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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2006, 12:59:27 PM »

You posters need to be very careful who you falsely accuse in this unfortunate incident. You are very libel for your false accusations. Mr Langley is a very accomplished veterinarian, and very professional. Do not falsely accuse him on the website. Remember you are libel and could face litigation !

Speculation isn't libel, John J Dwyer.
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2006, 01:13:09 PM »

Speculation isn't libel, John J Dwyer.

He's saying "liable," I think.

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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2006, 01:42:49 PM »

This horse dying had nothing to do with Pete Langley or Robin so don't make assumptions.  It will all come out in the wash. 
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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2006, 01:53:04 PM »

thank u dleestables.
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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2006, 04:01:30 PM »

This horse dying had nothing to do with Pete Langley or Robin so don't make assumptions.  It will all come out in the wash. 

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We certainly look forward to all of the actual facts coming out on this.
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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2006, 04:16:31 PM »

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We certainly look forward to all of the actual facts coming out on this.
if the real facts come out 
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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2006, 04:37:17 PM »

who needs facts...the rumors are what we want to read ..lets see some dirty laundry
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2006, 05:45:19 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2006, 05:46:48 PM »

who needs facts...the rumors are what we want to read ..lets see some dirty laundry
well not evan saboves dirty laundry
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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2006, 05:57:23 PM »

It is probably not worth responding to cowards(this is for you Trotter1) who use the anonymity of the internet to make false accusations. 

But I have never met nor communicated with either Bill Elliot or Bill Robinson. Nor had I ever been contracted by anyone representing either trainer to do any vet work. I did not pass a stomach tube nor administer any medication to Leading X Ample. What I did do is respond to a call asking me to look at an extremely ill animal. At that time I found a sick horse that required treatment that was far beyond the capabilities of any ambulatory veterinarian. Unfortunately, that horse died while being treated at a referral clinic.

I hope Trotter1 and Campbell someday find themselves in a situation where they are condemned by uninformed busybodies for trying to do the right thing . And I hope they feel as rotten about it as I do. But it’s doubtful that they ever do anything but look for ways to attack others spuriously. I welcome the day when I get the chance to look either  of them in the eye.

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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2006, 06:18:59 PM »

It is probably not worth responding to cowards(this is for you Trotter1) who use the anonymity of the internet to make false accusations. 

But I have never met nor communicated with either Bill Elliot or Bill Robinson. Nor had I ever been contracted by anyone representing either trainer to do any vet work. I did not pass a stomach tube nor administer any medication to Leading X Ample. What I did do is respond to a call asking me to look at an extremely ill animal. At that time I found a sick horse that required treatment that was far beyond the capabilities of any ambulatory veterinarian. Unfortunately, that horse died while being treated at a referral clinic.

I hope Trotter1 and Campbell someday find themselves in a situation where they are condemned by uninformed busybodies for trying to do the right thing . And I hope they feel as rotten about it as I do. But it’s doubtful that they ever do anything but look for ways to attack others spuriously. I welcome the day when I get the chance to look either  of them in the eye.

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I have no reason to apologize but I am sorry you had to post and defend yourself over such a horrible accusation.
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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2006, 06:21:05 PM »

Welcome to Barn To Wire Dr. Pete! flag
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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2006, 06:24:42 PM »

Welcome to Barn To Wire Dr. Pete! flag
Likewise.  I hope that the rough initiation won't keep you from posting on topics in your field.  Would love to see some posts from a vet.  Could learn quite a bit.

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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2006, 06:29:58 PM »

whatever happend we will never know the truth
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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2006, 06:39:29 PM »

with your professional knowledge doc ,what do you think caused this horse to be so sick all of a sudden , what were the symptom's when you arrived... just curiouse?Huh??
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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2006, 06:41:03 PM »

with your professional knowledge doc ,what do you think caused this horse to be so sick all of a sudden , what were the symptom's when you arrived... just curiouse?Huh??


I do believe there is a client privilege that he must adhere to.
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2006, 06:45:38 PM »

hes already discussed it somewhat evan..
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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2006, 10:10:19 PM »

It is probably not worth responding to cowards(this is for you Trotter1) who use the anonymity of the internet to make false accusations. 

But I have never met nor communicated with either Bill Elliot or Bill Robinson. Nor had I ever been contracted by anyone representing either trainer to do any vet work. I did not pass a stomach tube nor administer any medication to Leading X Ample. What I did do is respond to a call asking me to look at an extremely ill animal. At that time I found a sick horse that required treatment that was far beyond the capabilities of any ambulatory veterinarian. Unfortunately, that horse died while being treated at a referral clinic.

I hope Trotter1 and Campbell someday find themselves in a situation where they are condemned by uninformed busybodies for trying to do the right thing . And I hope they feel as rotten about it as I do. But it’s doubtful that they ever do anything but look for ways to attack others spuriously. I welcome the day when I get the chance to look either  of them in the eye.

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peter.  i never said a bad word bout u.  i only asked and then i said if it was true that u got in big trouble.  where do u come off with this crap.  i dont hope 4 nothin bad 4 u so grow up.  i'm glad u didnt do nothin wrong.  if u did only u no and u have 2 live with it. grow up and quit being a little baby. 
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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2006, 10:47:21 PM »

BTW

Please, lets stop all the backstretch b/s , this was an unfortunate incident for everyone involved
why make it worse as he was great horse.

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« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2006, 10:51:00 PM »

BTW

Please, lets stop all the backstretch b/s , this was an unfortunate incident for everyone involved
why make it worse as he was great horse.

Good Racing

 
i agree with u salami. i only said that if someone did something bad that i hope they get punisheed.  then tony fan and burton and peter langley say i a troll.  ok i a troll.  grow up these guys.
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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2006, 11:37:22 PM »

BTW

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why make it worse as he was great horse.

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     I totally agree. Here you have a vet trying to help the animal out and the poor guy gets bashed for it. Whoever brought his name into this was wrong and owes the guy an apology.



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     I totally agree. Here you have a vet trying to help the animal out and the poor guy gets bashed for it. Whoever brought his name into this was wrong and owes the guy an apology.



 Bobby

I completely agree with Bobby.  Wow -- I never thought I would say that.   Cheesy

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« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2006, 01:08:41 AM »

     I totally agree. Here you have a vet trying to help the animal out and the poor guy gets bashed for it. Whoever brought his name into this was wrong and owes the guy an apology.

It was Campbell.

isnt phil Langleys son peter a vet?  I thought i heard that his son was a vet but dont quote me.

ouuuccchhh.
Yes Peter Langley is a vet in Illinois
ouuuccchhh that hurts.  laugh.

odds on is robin schaddt.  this makes sense then.  petey Langely is prolly Robins vet and thats who killed accidently leading x ample or made a bad mistakee.  double ooouuuccchhhh!!
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« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2006, 05:47:11 PM »

Thank you, Peter for cleaning up these false accusations from these morons. I would sue them for slander if i were you, but it would constitute a total "waste of money".
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AGREED. Langleys name should have never been brought up because no one knows what happened.
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« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2006, 05:58:05 PM »

i says if peter killed the horse accident.  i said if so he should be punisheed.  i said if he dont kill horse then sorry.  rewad my posts u guys. i never said he did or dint.  read raed read.
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« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2006, 06:36:20 PM »

i says if peter killed the horse accident.  i said if so he should be punisheed.  i said if he dont kill horse then sorry.  rewad my posts u guys. i never said he did or dint.  read raed read.

is this another graduate of the kentucky public schools system or is he getting his language..  as casey would say ..out of a moonshine bottle?
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« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2006, 07:14:20 PM »

Campbell reminds me of someone that use to be on here but I can't remember the name!
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