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Author Topic: Rene Douglas & Mark Guidry Return to A.P.  (Read 4363 times)
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« on: July 07, 2006, 11:36:01 AM »

Per Joey the K. in today's Daily Herald, both Douglas and Guidry will be racing at A.P. starting next week.  Will Guid make the power move in July, August and September like he did last year?  Douglas will have the same agent as Emigh.  No Dennis Cooper this year.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2006, 01:25:22 PM »

Douglas is a peice of shit! What he did to Dale Romans shows what kind of a punk he his! I could give two shits for the guy!

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2006, 02:07:32 PM »

What did he do to Romans?  He was supposed to ride Roman's horses.  Roman's had two horses, uncoupled in a race about 2 weeks ago.  One was the 4-5 favorite and the other about a 5-1 shot.  So who does Roman's name on the 4-5 shot?  Leparoux.  I could see why Douglas was a bit miffed.  WTF wasn't Douglas named on Cat on a Prowl?
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2006, 02:26:57 PM »

And didnt Romans screw Guidry?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2006, 03:04:02 PM »

What did he do to Romans?  He was supposed to ride Roman's horses.  Roman's had two horses, uncoupled in a race about 2 weeks ago.  One was the 4-5 favorite and the other about a 5-1 shot.  So who does Roman's name on the 4-5 shot?  Leparoux.  I could see why Douglas was a bit miffed.  WTF wasn't Douglas named on Cat on a Prowl?

Leparoux better than Douglas. Cased closed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2006, 04:39:14 PM »

Per Joey the K. in today's Daily Herald, both Douglas and Guidry will be racing at A.P. starting next week.  Will Guid make the power move in July, August and September like he did last year?  Douglas will have the same agent as Emigh.  No Dennis Cooper this year.
Chris Emigh's agent is worthless, he just sits his fat ass on the bench in front of the racing office.  He drives around the barnes and yells out to the trainers to give chris some mounts, never gets out of his car. Emigh is a good rider and trust me, its not the agent that gets his mounts, its all Chris Emigh.  Guidy is a very good rider to the big trainers but a piece of shit rider with small trainers (he never tries to break a sweat for a win or even hitting the boad.)  Douglas is an excellent rider and aways tries his best.  He is a monster jock on the grass.  "AT ARLINGTON PARK"
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2006, 05:14:23 PM »

Rene Douglas got a mount on a live horse and cried like a little *** when Romans had Laparoux on his other horse. As an owner, I'll take Laparoux any day of the week on my horses!

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2006, 05:18:14 PM »

ShoGUN -  he is not a monster jock on the grass, there is no such thing!  An experienced jock like douglas can ride on any surface equally my friend.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2006, 05:20:51 PM »

Douglas is an excellent rider and aways tries his best.  He is a monster jock on the grass.   

Grass for Douglas? the stats don't prove that.

Over the past year Douglas is sitting at 9% (20 for 227). Thats average.

Compare that to Marquez Jr (11%--15 for 133)
                        Guidry (14%--41 for 294)
                        Emigh (15%--39 for 225)

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2006, 05:23:06 PM »

Rene Douglas got a mount on a live horse and cried like a little *** when Romans had Laparoux on his other horse. As an owner, I'll take Laparoux any day of the week on my horses!

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Grass for Douglas? the stats don't prove that.

Over the past year Douglas is sitting at 9% (20 for 227). Thats average.

Compare that to Marquez Jr (11%--15 for 133)
                        Guidry (14%--41 for 294)
                        Emigh (15%--39 for 225)

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2006, 05:23:51 PM »

Grass for Douglas? the stats don't prove that.

Over the past year Douglas is sitting at 9% (20 for 227). Thats average.

Compare that to Marquez Jr (11%--15 for 133)
                        Guidry (14%--41 for 294)
                        Emigh (15%--39 for 225)

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Come on..Douglas was riding against the best jocks on the both coasts.. who has emigh or marquez jr faced.. Stats dont always tell the story
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2006, 05:25:51 PM »

well said clockert - some of these fools believe old wise tales.  the stats speak for themselves.  Fires is considered a great grass rider I have asked him about that and his response it makes no differance as long as you have the horse!!!  that was about 10 years ago.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2006, 05:27:17 PM »

well said clockert - some of these fools believe old wise tales.  the stats speak for themselves.  Fires is considered a great grass rider I have asked him about that and his response it makes no differance as long as you have the horse!!!  that was about 10 years ago.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2006, 05:29:03 PM »

ET Baird has no faith on turf anymore since his spill last fall at HAW.

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2006, 05:31:38 PM »

I can guarantee you ET would laugh his ass off on that one !!!!  LOL
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2006, 05:33:04 PM »

 
h. Guidy is a very good rider to the big trainers but a piece of shit rider with small trainers (he never tries to break a sweat for a win or even hitting the boad.) D

Inthe early 90's we had a horse in an overnight stake at AP guidry was the rider.. We were a longshot 25-30/1, the Guid after the gate opened decided the horse had no shot and pulled her up... in the paddock before the race he was *** the horse had no shot... I agree with your statement, since we were samll owners with a small trainer he could give us the shaft.. He may have been on drugs at the time not sure
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2006, 05:34:37 PM »

Douglas over Emigh and Marquez JR any day on any surface
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2006, 05:36:09 PM »

Douglas over Emigh and Marquez JR any day on any surface
I WOULD'NT HAVE ANY OTHER WAY MYSELF
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2006, 05:39:01 PM »

 
Inthe early 90's we had a horse in an overnight stake at AP guidry was the rider.. We were a longshot 25-30/1, the Guid after the gate opened decided the horse had no shot and pulled her up... in the paddock before the race he was *** the horse had no shot... I agree with your statement, since we were samll owners with a small trainer he could give us the shaft.. He may have been on drugs at the time not sure
IF I HAD A HORSE IN A RACE AND MY JOCK GOT HURT AND THE ONLY JOCK LEFT IN THE ROOM WAS GUIDRY. I WOULD SCRATCH MY HORSE IN A SECOND.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2006, 07:52:24 PM »

Looks like Albarado is coming too...
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2006, 09:24:10 PM »

Jose Ferrer is going places guys. This kid can ride and it looks like he'd whoop any jocks ass in the room. The dude is built like a rock and has balls of steal. He also knows how to rate a horse on the lead. He's good. Keep an eye on him this summer.

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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2006, 10:34:01 PM »

If this is the Same Jose Ferrer he has been around a while he must be in his fourties. He is not in the same class as the three forementioned jockeys but he rode some nice price wire to wire winners on the grass this meet.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2006, 10:37:28 PM »

A Couple of things...Ferrer is a good front running rider,AND I have banged the drum for him....BUT Ive NEVER seen a chick hound like he is...Its like he would rather give the soccer mom a lession in scoring than riding a horse that has no chance.

And to the guy that said Guidry bad mouthed his horse before the race..Bottom line..
I dont believe you.
AND... if Im wrong I would have asked to scratch out. Why did ya not?
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And to the guy that said Guidry bad mouthed his horse before the race..Bottom line..
I dont believe you.
AND... if Im wrong I would have asked to scratch out. Why did ya not?

Dont believe me.. I really dont care.. This happend 12-15 years ago and as you know doing that time period Guidry has some problems.. Scratch, if anything we should of asked for a new jock but with the horses being already saddled I dont think the Stewards would of allowed to  us scratch or change jocks..at the moment things happend fast so who knew what to do.. I or some one in my family raced horses here from 1972 to 1997 and  this never had  happend before or after
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2006, 09:12:27 AM »

Big Wally, I'm with you. Mark rode one of our horses last year and just sat on him because he was 15-1. We put him on because James Graham got sick. Anyway, he never asked him to run and never pulled out the whip. It was like a Sunday Gallop. The horse finished 5th and he could have hit the board if he would have pushed him through but he *** out like a little punk. Guidry will never ride for me again.

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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2006, 09:14:01 AM »

IF I HAD A HORSE IN A RACE AND MY JOCK GOT HURT AND THE ONLY JOCK LEFT IN THE ROOM WAS GUIDRY. I WOULD SCRATCH MY HORSE IN A SECOND.

You said it best bro-

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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2006, 09:35:08 AM »

Guidry is no Emight  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2006, 10:59:32 AM »

Renee is a $ rider. As I recall he rides the Turf at Arlington very well. Look at his turf earnings over the years he rode there. Yes, the bug boy at Churchhill is having a great year and has a future a head of him, but he is no Renee Douglas or Mark Guidry. Mark and Renee have had outstanding careers at Arlington. Jose Ferer is a journeyman jock that wont be around next year.
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2006, 11:46:39 AM »

Renee is a $ rider. As I recall he rides the Turf at Arlington very well. Look at his turf earnings over the years he rode there. Yes, the bug boy at Churchhill is having a great year and has a future a head of him, but he is no Renee Douglas or Mark Guidry. Mark and Renee have had outstanding careers at Arlington. Jose Ferer is a journeyman jock that wont be around next year.

Laparoux is WAY better than the guys you mentioned! Come on man!
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« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2006, 12:23:13 PM »

Are you kidding me Chitown. The young lad has a future a head of him, but you need to take a long look at the careers of Guidry and Douglas and see the stock that they have ridden over the years. Lets see how the Bug boy does when he loses his bug weight and then start comparing jock for jock. It sounds like your anti Guidry and Douglas. As I recall Douglas was having a pretty dam good Churchhill meet prior to his disagreement with Romans. I dont think he was getting any bug weight either Rookie.
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« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2006, 12:35:35 PM »

Renee is a $ rider. As I recall he rides the Turf at Arlington very well. Look at his turf earnings over the years he rode there. Yes, the bug boy at Churchhill is having a great year and has a future a head of him, but he is no Renee Douglas or Mark Guidry. Mark and Renee have had outstanding careers at Arlington. Jose Ferer is a journeyman jock that wont be around next year.
If Guidry and Douglas are better than Leparoux why are they not leading the nation in wins? Guidry and Douglas are minor league next to Leparoux. Leparoux has 263 wins and Douglas & Guidry have less than 130 Combined. You need to learn how to evaluate talent.
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2006, 12:47:16 PM »

Leading Jockeys at Churchill Downs
Starting Date: 04/29/2006
Ending Date: 07/07/2006

Name Starts 1st 2nd 3rd Earnings
Julien R. Leparoux  319 76 37 46 $2,734,064
Rafael Bejarano  314 71 67 53 $3,052,108
Calvin H. Borel  289 48 32 34 $2,095,050
Randall Toups  275 33 32 40 $833,729
Robby Albarado  203 32 46 31 $1,977,366
Rene R. Douglas  176 30 29 23 $1,184,975
Mark Guidry  197 30 24 27 $1,766,132

This is current Churchill standings.
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2006, 12:50:49 PM »

Leading Jockeys at Keeneland
Starting Date: 04/07/2006
Ending Date: 04/28/2006

Name Starts 1st 2nd 3rd Earnings
Julien R. Leparoux  104 17 17 11 $932,033
Rafael Bejarano  90 17 14 19 $811,721
Shaun Bridgmohan  74 15 7 10 $744,055
Javier Castellano  52 12 9 9 $689,737
John R. Velazquez  43 12 6 8 $739,251
Mark Guidry  73 9 16 9 $661,934
Rene R. Douglas  76 9 9 9 $424,671
James Graham  70 6 9 7 $302,772

When is the last time Douglas & Guidry won 2 riding titles in the same year? As a matter of fact when did either one of them win a riding title outside of Chicago?   Stay tuned for more on Leparoux!!
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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2006, 12:55:56 PM »

Leading Jockeys at Turfway Park
Starting Date: 01/01/2006
Ending Date: 04/06/2006

Name Starts 1st 2nd 3rd Earnings
Julien R. Leparoux  529 167 110 62 $1,634,764
Willie Martinez  292 43 46 42 $659,572
Jason P. Lumpkins  299 42 34 42 $577,320
Rodney A. Prescott  399 40 43 44 $461,810
Richard A. Bracho  223 33 28 29 $412,724

Wow he did it again. When is the last time you seen a riding title in 3 consecutive meets won by a single rider? I sure can't remember when!   Stay tuned, I don't think he is done yet! Douglas & Guidry still better? Please tell me why with facts not your opinion.
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2006, 01:45:32 PM »

Are you kidding me Chitown. The young lad has a future a head of him, but you need to take a long look at the careers of Guidry and Douglas and see the stock that they have ridden over the years. Lets see how the Bug boy does when he loses his bug weight and then start comparing jock for jock. It sounds like your anti Guidry and Douglas. As I recall Douglas was having a pretty dam good Churchhill meet prior to his disagreement with Romans. I dont think he was getting any bug weight either Rookie.
Sawd off, I can't believe what your saying. Do you really believe it is only the bug weight advantage why he is pissing all over Douglas & guidry? Do you know how many wins they had when they were bugs? Did they ever lead the nation in wins? Your logic kills me! You better enjoy Leparoux because he is really something special. I have never in my 35 years of following this sport seen as good a bug as Leparoux. He is the best rider in the country right now. Numbers don't lie.
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2006, 01:59:23 PM »

Mel, don't listen to the guy. I think you put his ass in check with those sick ass stats! Holy shit! I cannot believe those numbers...Amazing!

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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2006, 02:04:20 PM »

Thought Steve Cauthen maybe, but no, he won the title at RD and then was second at both CD and KEE. Lapardoux's numbers are sensational.
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2006, 02:06:35 PM »

Thought Steve Cauthen maybe, but no, he won the title at RD and then was second at both CD and KEE. Lapardoux's numbers are sensational.
I thought about Cauthen also. Leparoux's numbers are unreal. I keep waiting for him to cool off and he keeps getting stronger.
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2006, 03:24:38 PM »

Are you two a couple of cab drivers? The apprentice is having an exceptional year to date. All popular bug boys are always going to get more mounts due them getting less weight. Yes, he is the leading rider in the nation. I wouldnt go as far to say he is the best rider. John V, Edgar P, Rafeal B. are as solid as they come. Your stats are interesting, but did you look at the mounts comparison? Trainers always ride the hot apprentice. Yes, when you have more mounts your are probably going to lead in earnings too. I dont believe Guidry and Douglas were riding for the same purses back when they started as the bug is riding right now. The big test will be come next year at this time and we will see where he stands as far as mounts, wins and earnings. He is the leading rider in the nation, but is he the best?Huh Chitown didnt you coment on how you like Jose Ferer. Give me a break. He couldnt hold a candle to Eduardo Perez or Eddie Razo. If it wasnt for Mike Dini and David Hinsley he wouldnt even be here. Very likley he wont be here next year. Ferer is a very sub par Jockey.
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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2006, 03:32:25 PM »

Are you two a couple of cab drivers? The apprentice is having an exceptional year to date. All popular bug boys are always going to get more mounts due them getting less weight. Yes, he is the leading rider in the nation. I wouldnt go as far to say he is the best rider. John V, Edgar P, Rafeal B. are as solid as they come. Your stats are interesting, but did you look at the mounts comparison? Trainers always ride the hot apprentice. Yes, when you have more mounts your are probably going to lead in earnings too. I dont believe Guidry and Douglas were riding for the same purses back when they started as the bug is riding right now. The big test will be come next year at this time and we will see where he stands as far as mounts, wins and earnings. He is the leading rider in the nation, but is he the best?Huh Chitown didnt you coment on how you like Jose Ferer. Give me a break. He couldnt hold a candle to Eduardo Perez or Eddie Razo. If it wasnt for Mike Dini and David Hinsley he wouldnt even be here. Very likley he wont be here next year. Ferer is a very sub par Jockey.

Who the hell is talking about Johnny V? I'm talking about your two Bozo's: Guidry & Douglas. Get a clue pal!
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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2006, 03:42:13 PM »

Are you two a couple of cab drivers? The apprentice is having an exceptional year to date. All popular bug boys are always going to get more mounts due them getting less weight. Yes, he is the leading rider in the nation. I wouldnt go as far to say he is the best rider. John V, Edgar P, Rafeal B. are as solid as they come. Your stats are interesting, but did you look at the mounts comparison? Trainers always ride the hot apprentice. Yes, when you have more mounts your are probably going to lead in earnings too. I dont believe Guidry and Douglas were riding for the same purses back when they started as the bug is riding right now. The big test will be come next year at this time and we will see where he stands as far as mounts, wins and earnings. He is the leading rider in the nation, but is he the best?Huh Chitown didnt you coment on how you like Jose Ferer. Give me a break. He couldnt hold a candle to Eduardo Perez or Eddie Razo. If it wasnt for Mike Dini and David Hinsley he wouldnt even be here. Very likley he wont be here next year. Ferer is a very sub par Jockey.
Your ignorance to the race game preceeds you. If you can add, and I believe you can, add Douglas & Guidry mounts together at Churchill and you will see they total more than Leparoux. Guess what, they still have less wins and Douglas was 1st call rider for the leading trainer at the meet!  Make up some more excuses and try to convince yourself because you sure ain't doing it on this board.
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2006, 03:48:07 PM »

Are you two a couple of cab drivers? The apprentice is having an exceptional year to date. All popular bug boys are always going to get more mounts due them getting less weight. Yes, he is the leading rider in the nation. I wouldnt go as far to say he is the best rider. John V, Edgar P, Rafeal B. are as solid as they come. Your stats are interesting, but did you look at the mounts comparison? Trainers always ride the hot apprentice. Yes, when you have more mounts your are probably going to lead in earnings too. I dont believe Guidry and Douglas were riding for the same purses back when they started as the bug is riding right now. The big test will be come next year at this time and we will see where he stands as far as mounts, wins and earnings. He is the leading rider in the nation, but is he the best?Huh Chitown didnt you coment on how you like Jose Ferer. Give me a break. He couldnt hold a candle to Eduardo Perez or Eddie Razo. If it wasnt for Mike Dini and David Hinsley he wouldnt even be here. Very likley he wont be here next year. Ferer is a very sub par Jockey.
Leading Jockeys at Arlington Park
Starting Date: 05/05/2006
Ending Date: 07/07/2006

Name Starts 1st 2nd 3rd Earnings
Christopher A. Emigh  251 60 42 27 $1,330,907
Francisco C. Torres  262 49 45 47 $1,323,911
Eusebio Razo, Jr.  180 27 30 19 $684,241
Jesse M. Campbell  181 25 25 22 $624,712
James Graham  173 24 21 19 $547,944
Eduardo E. Perez  132 20 27 16 $574,607
Eddie M. Martin, Jr.  143 20 17 19 $440,783
Larry J. Sterling, Jr.  123 20 6 23 $493,852
Jose C. Ferrer  128 19 18 14 $449,900

Not a big fan of Ferrer, Razo or Perez, however their talent level seems comparable. If you call Ferrer sub par what does it make the other 2?
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2006, 03:52:27 PM »

Your butt buddy mel4600 quoted saying that the Bug is the best in the country PAL.  Thats why I refered to John V and Edgar P PAL.  Shocked Get your facts straight PAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2006, 04:07:35 PM »

Your butt buddy mel4600 quoted saying that the Bug is the best in the country PAL.  Thats why I refered to John V and Edgar P PAL.  Shocked Get your facts straight PAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Numbers don't lie. Don't get upset and start calling everyone names. Leparoux has already done things (like winning 3 riding titles in a row at 3 different tracks) that all the guys you mentioned will never do. That is just a fact! Now quit talking out of your ass and provide me with some facts!
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2006, 04:09:08 PM »

Leading Jockeys at Arlington Park
Starting Date: 05/05/2006
Ending Date: 07/07/2006

Name Starts 1st 2nd 3rd Earnings
Christopher A. Emigh  251 60 42 27 $1,330,907
Francisco C. Torres  262 49 45 47 $1,323,911
Eusebio Razo, Jr.  180 27 30 19 $684,241
Jesse M. Campbell  181 25 25 22 $624,712
James Graham  173 24 21 19 $547,944
Eduardo E. Perez  132 20 27 16 $574,607
Eddie M. Martin, Jr.  143 20 17 19 $440,783
Larry J. Sterling, Jr.  123 20 6 23 $493,852
Jose C. Ferrer  128 19 18 14 $449,900

Not a big fan of Ferrer, Razo or Perez, however their talent level seems comparable. If you call Ferrer sub par what does it make the other 2?

Are those the Hawthorne standings?
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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2006, 04:22:15 PM »

Are those the Hawthorne standings?
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« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2006, 04:44:23 PM »

Are those the Hawthorne standings?

It says Arlington Park right on the top.
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« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2006, 05:22:11 PM »

Hey stat man,one year does not make a glorified Jockey. Im not questioning the stats. Bug weight makes a huge differnce when deciding how much your horse is going to carry. Alot of trainers and owners factor that in. All Im saying is for the 3rd time lets see where he is next year at this time without the bug weight. The Kid has a ton of talent. Kudos to three riding titles as A bug. If he wins the saratoga meet then my hat is off to him. He has to prove to all of us he can compete without his bug next year. You know that as well as anyone and thats a FACT. Look at the past bug boys accross the Nation in the past years. He has a good future ahead of him. Good Luck!
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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2006, 05:34:49 PM »

Hey stat man,one year does not make a glorified Jockey. Im not questioning the stats. Bug weight makes a huge differnce when deciding how much your horse is going to carry. Alot of trainers and owners factor that in. All Im saying is for the 3rd time lets see where he is next year at this time without the bug weight. The Kid has a ton of talent. Kudos to three riding titles as A bug. If he wins the saratoga meet then my hat is off to him. He has to prove to all of us he can compete without his bug next year. You know that as well as anyone and thats a FACT. Look at the past bug boys accross the Nation in the past years. He has a good future ahead of him. Good Luck!
OK sawd off I won't whip this any longer. I will wait till next year to see where he is at, however, don't compare him to all the other bugs, this kid is special.
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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2006, 08:35:56 PM »

Sawd off, I can't believe what your saying. Do you really believe it is only the bug weight advantage why he is pissing all over Douglas & guidry? Do you know how many wins they had when they were bugs? Did they ever lead the nation in wins? Your logic kills me! You better enjoy Leparoux because he is really something special. I have never in my 35 years of following this sport seen as good a bug as Leparoux. He is the best rider in the country right now. Numbers don't lie.

steve Cauthan and Chris MCCarron come to mind as really good bug riders.

Lepardox is in their class.

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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2006, 09:14:04 PM »

"steve Cauthan and Chris MCCarron come to mind as really good bug riders."

Al, I agree with both but don't forget Desormeaux with the bug in Maryland and Randy Romero as an apprentice in Louisiana. Romero used to be named on three-four horses a day when an agent could get away with that.
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« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2006, 10:36:57 PM »

This Leparoux is great!
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« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2006, 07:03:35 PM »

Didn't Bejarano have the bug when he first started demolishing the competition in the standings?
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« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2006, 08:51:55 PM »

Sure did.  And he continues to do great in KY, and hold his own quite well in NY, and everywhere else he goes. 

Maybe Leparoux is the next Bejarano.  They both might be strong forces to reckon with for years to come.
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« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2006, 09:56:21 PM »

Sure did.  And he continues to do great in KY, and hold his own quite well in NY, and everywhere else he goes. 

Maybe Leparoux is the next Bejarano.  They both might be strong forces to reckon with for years to come.

Maybe they will ride on a regular basis at AP in the future HAHAHAHAA
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