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Author Topic: Shorter Fairmount meet being discussed for 2014  (Read 1665 times)
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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2013, 10:41:19 AM »

The marketing isn't the problem, the problem is that the product is terrible and very few people want to bet it
Look at Arlington,they have scads of marketing boy and girl geniuses,and they still go hat in hand to Springfield.Maybe they can split their time between FP and AP.
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2013, 11:10:18 AM »

The local casino markets their product as "the loosest slots" and boasts the payout rate.  The track advertises the "party at the park" as a drinking and eating entertainment venue, along with live music to listen to.  Tuesdays are "horse hooky" with cheap hot dogs and beer.

There is little mention of the actual gambling or racing.  So I don't attribute low handle on the patrons, who are there for the party.  But the end result is that horsemen are putting on the show for free, for the patrons who do not gamble.  I believe many patrons don't even know (or probably care) how horsemen are paid.  I had a guy come up to me and tell me he bet my horse, so I would be making more money.

And I disagree that the product is terrible.  Most of the really bad horses have "retired", due to the higher competitive level of racing.  Maybe not a top tier track, but horses tend to run to form and there are opportunities for profit.  6 of 8 winners Friday were chalk.

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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2013, 11:37:42 AM »

Lots of chalk =proves less competitive fields / racing
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2013, 09:16:46 AM »

The only track east of the Mississippi that puts out a more terrible product than Fairmount is up in Mt Pleasant
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2013, 09:23:55 AM »

The only track east of the Mississippi that puts out a more terrible product than Fairmount is up in Mt Pleasant

I think we've got the picture now - it isn't for you.

No one forces you to play it.
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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2013, 10:09:55 AM »

The only track east of the Mississippi that puts out a more terrible product than Fairmount is up in Mt Pleasant

Don't forget the Ohio tracks, they're worse than FP too.
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2013, 10:16:02 AM »

I thought about those Ohio tracks but the thing that separates even the old river downs is that it had a turf course
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2013, 10:24:47 AM »

I race at Beulah and recently ran 2nd with a horse that in the prior race ran 10th at the bottom at fp.  So, I can assure you that fp is not the bottom of the food chain.  To the contrary.
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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2013, 11:33:16 AM »

I race at Beulah and recently ran 2nd with a horse that in the prior race ran 10th at the bottom at fp.  So, I can assure you that fp is not the bottom of the food chain.  To the contrary.

While I respect you protecting and fighting for your home track, but it is probably average of all the horrid tracks out there. It should probably race for 4-6 weeks, maybe right before or after Ellis Park runs.

If it was owned by anyone else, especially someone that wasn't as into racing as Stiritz, it would have been closed years ago.

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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2013, 11:56:38 AM »

While I respect you protecting and fighting for your home track, but it is probably average of all the horrid tracks out there. It should probably race for 4-6 weeks, maybe right before or after Ellis Park runs.

It should race when the track and horsemen want to race and can afford to hold races based on its business. No one else's opinion on the issue matters.
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2013, 09:34:35 AM »

Now hearing more discussion of the possibility of the 2014 cuts being deeper than previously floated, due to the purse and IRB budgets.  If they need to do so, it would be brutal to race a day or two per week. I would think it makes more sense to have a shorter meet with more weekly race days and then moving on.

To a degree, it is offset so long as the track is left open for training year-round.  But if that ceases, and the meet is strung out on the calendar, it would be brutal.  And with a meet that short, I can't see year-round housing for the families and daily training to be realistic.

We can't justify the cost of feed, hay and labor without opportunity to make a little money.  And if we don't start until Derby Day that would be nearly 8 months of down time with no $$. Not a lot of low-level horses are going to be wintered in that case.  Just give them all away and claim new ones when the meet starts and you would be well-ahead of the game.
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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2013, 10:07:58 AM »


 Long as it works out for full time salaries for the E.D. , the nepotism jobs , and a big chunk of the horsemen dollars goes for rent , nothing else matters.

The connected at FP been taking good care of each other, and will continue to do so.

 Nobody else matters.  Not good . Heck, even Ardie and Tiny's might have to close up.

 




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