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Author Topic: WHAT CORZINE IS DOING  (Read 1242 times)
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« on: July 03, 2006, 11:05:02 PM »

For those who don't follow politics in New Jersey, here's what's happening in a nutshell:

Democratic Governor Jon Corzine wants to raise state sales tax from 6 percent up to 7 percent to help reduce Jersey's massive budget deficit. Both chambers of the state legislature (controlled by Corzine's fellow Democrats), fearing an expected public backlash to higher taxes at the time of the November elections, are standing firm in opposition to Corzine.

But Corzine is playing hardball, taking a "my way or the highway" stance. An enormously wealthy man, it's noi secret Corzine sought the governship for power, not for money. As a consequence, Jersey's so-called "non essential" public workers (iuncluding those at state race tracks) could be out of work for quite some time, as Corzine seems determined to hold his ground.

Political analysts I watched on various TV networks today are virtually unanimous in predicting no quick end to this mess.

We may have seen the last of Meadowlands harness racing until their November-December meeting (proved, of course, that this standoff is settled by then).
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2006, 12:08:57 PM »

This guy is smart, tough and no nonsence.

The politians who are up for re-election in Nov. are just looking out for themselves.  It seems like this is typical  self-serving survival mode.  They did keep the casinos open until after the 4th of July. NJ has high real estate taxes, sales taxes and income taxes.  That's called a trifecta in my book.   Did a politician ever here of cutting spending.  In business you raise prices and you become less competitive and you are out of business.  Today if you are not working harder and smarter, you will not be in business tomorrow.  Government hasn't learned that concept. 

Even in horse racing, I want to see the trainer working harder.  Not using illegal drugs.  Working and caring for his horses.  Keep his barn area clean and his equipment in excellent shape.  It's not what a individual says but what he does. 

That's how I see it.

Happy 4th of July to the land of the free flag!

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2006, 12:33:54 PM »

This guy is smart, tough and no nonsence.

Shutting down the government is ridiculous.  A good leader could've accomplished excellent things without this nonsense.

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2006, 12:51:30 PM »

Shutting down the government is ridiculous.  A good leader could've accomplished excellent things without this nonsense.

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It's called pressure on the old toush.  Who is going to capitulate first??   What you are watching is the ultimate who's got the bigger set of b_ _ _ _. 

My bet Corzine.


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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2006, 12:52:23 PM »

edward...with all respects to the game being shutdown and seeing that hurts..isnt it fun watching the ego maniac liberals in new jersey, slap each other around? their brand of raising funds by always taking more and more from the taxpayers is hisss toe ree, but they are blinded by their own headlights
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2006, 01:08:29 PM »

Yes, let's blame it all on Corzine. After all he caused this mess in the 6 months he's been in office. The republican and democratic governors and legislative leaders of the past 25 years who "balanced" budgets with smoke, mirrors and clever one-time accounting tricks had nothing at all to do with it.  Roll Eyes

I've lived in this stinking overtaxed state for 30 years. I see what these crooked, gutless politicians from both sides of the aisle have done over the last quarter century. All they're interested in is lining their own pockets with as much cash as possible and spreading as much "pork" as they can to their pals.

So let's kill the messenger. The first politician this state has had in years who wants to put a stop to the business-as-usual NJ thievery.

Why is it that other states in the region can have multi-billion dollar budget surpluses, and NJ is drowning in debt? Give it some thought.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2006, 01:11:18 PM »

how is corzine putting a stop to it by wanting to raise taxes? ..doesnt that just continue the shell game...when will any elected officials have the courage to put their own ballz on the line and say no to spending? giving a new jersey politician more money to spend is like giving an addict more crack to smoke
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2006, 01:11:29 PM »



Why is it that other states in the region can have multi-billion dollar budget surpluses, and NJ is drowning in debt? Give it some thought.

Too many people on welfare.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2006, 01:13:50 PM »

giving a new jersey politician more money to spend is like giving an addict more crack to smoke

That's another thing, giving medical care to all the crack addicts in Jersey and to all the people unemployed.
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2006, 01:14:56 PM »

Too many people on welfare.

There are more people on welfare in NY, and they're rolling in surplus cash.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2006, 01:16:20 PM »

how is corzine putting a stop to it by wanting to raise taxes? ..doesnt that just continue the shell game...when will any elected officials have the courage to put their own ballz on the line and say no to spending? giving a new jersey politician more money to spend is like giving an addict more crack to smoke

His budget proposal doesn't just raise taxes...the sales tax increase would only cover 25% of the deficit. The rest will come from spending cuts.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2006, 01:25:33 PM »

looking at a google search on the new jersey budget, income taxe receipts were up over 20 % last year, until you get spending under control without tax increases you are still just sliding the problem down the road.. the sales tax hits the lowest end of the economy the hardest..last year you increased taxes on the wealthiest in the state..now corzine and his cronies want to attack the little guy with a sales tax increase..when the d-rats say they are for the little guy...sounds like he is talking out both side of his arrogant limousine liberal mouth...
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2006, 01:36:39 PM »

His budget proposal doesn't just raise taxes...the sales tax increase would only cover 25% of the deficit. The rest will come from spending cuts.

If the Big M. stays closed then the New Yorkers and all the harness race fans in Jersey should be over joyed when Yonkers opens. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006, 02:51:31 PM »

looking at a google search on the new jersey budget, income taxe receipts were up over 20 % last year, until you get spending under control without tax increases you are still just sliding the problem down the road.. the sales tax hits the lowest end of the economy the hardest..last year you increased taxes on the wealthiest in the state..now corzine and his cronies want to attack the little guy with a sales tax increase..when the d-rats say they are for the little guy...sounds like he is talking out both side of his arrogant limousine liberal mouth...

You know what happened after the income tax on "millionaires" increased? A huge percentage established out of state residence to avoid it.

The out of control spending isn't something this administration started. It's been 25 years of both parties spending, spending spending.

By the way, if a sales tax can be considered "non regressive" , ours is. There is no tax on necessities... clothing, food, medication, even dry cleaning and lots of other common services. We also have one of the lowest gasoline taxes in the country, making it at least a little easier on the working man who has to drive to work.
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2006, 03:14:02 PM »

This crisis in New Jersey all belongs to Jon Corzine and he is the face of it. He cant be trusted and the more you hear him whine that "this isnt a power grab" and this isnt a game to me" ... the more you know it is a power grab for him and it is a game to him.

If he were so truely interested in getting this settled he would not have grandstanded by ordering the Legislature into Session on the 4th of July. He would have done it last week or the weekend before.Instead he orders them back once he shut everything down.

In the end, Corzine is the face of the crisis. Corzine is the billionaire who has to tell the blue collar workers that he MUST raise their taxes. Corzine is the billionaire that is telling 43000 State employees that he is laying them off because he cant raise their taxes when all the while, Corzine already has so much money that he never needs another pay check.

In the end, Corzine is the one who signed the papers ordering everything to close. \

I have two questions for this jerk Corzine ... if he is very willing to toss 43000 people to the curb calling them "non-essential", doesnt that mean his government is bloated, inefficient and needs to be trimmed? Shouldnt he address HIS waste before demanding the people pay for it?

May God Bless the horsemen who are trying to stand up to this Socialist Tyrant.
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2006, 03:15:21 PM »

If the Big M. stays closed then the New Yorkers and all the harness race fans in Jersey should be over joyed when Yonkers opens. 

Its too bad they didnt expand the track to 5/8's like the original plans called for.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2006, 04:35:47 PM »

Its too bad they didnt expand the track to 5/8's like the original plans called for.

Yonker is staying a 1/2 miler.

Terrible decision on their part.

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 04:49:32 PM »

How long would the government stay "shut down"  if government pensions and health care beneifits were here suspended?
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 07:19:33 PM »

I know they have one more non-essential employee to send home: Gov. Corzine!!!!!!
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