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« on: June 26, 2013, 10:59:24 AM »

don't think it handled the weather over the past 24 hours well...

https://twitter.com/JohnGDooley/status/349914430726889472
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 11:24:28 AM »

don't think it handled the weather over the past 24 hours well...

https://twitter.com/JohnGDooley/status/349914430726889472

I could take a cheap shot, but Arlington Heights just got over 4 inches of rain in the last 24 hours...ain't no racing surface in the world that can handle THAT trouble-free.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 11:44:27 AM »

Wow I can't believe how black that poly has got over the years. It must have absorbed all sorts of crapola from ... wherever. No wonder it's become "hard" or "unforgiving" or whatever you want to call it.

Compare to this picture from year 1:

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 12:07:39 PM »

It must have absorbed all sorts of crapola from ... wherever.

Very sly. Didn't catch it until the 2nd read.  thumbs up

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2013, 07:51:26 AM »

Wow I can't believe how black that poly has got over the years. It must have absorbed all sorts of crapola from ... wherever. No wonder it's become "hard" or "unforgiving" or whatever you want to call it.

Compare to this picture from year 1:



I watched the construction of the track. Underneath are several inches of asphalt, which is oil based. When the weather gets warm and the oil heats up, the churning of the material makes it rise to the surface and blend with the poly.

I believe that is why it has turned so black.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2013, 08:56:57 AM »

I believe that is why it has turned so black.

I like Terry's "crapola" theory much better -- it lines up with the prevailing AP-hugger mentality I have constructed:

"Our Sh*t Doesn't Stink (but our fake racetrack gives us away!)"
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2013, 09:25:47 AM »

I watched the construction of the track. Underneath are several inches of asphalt, which is oil based. When the weather gets warm and the oil heats up, the churning of the material makes it rise to the surface and blend with the poly.

I believe that is why it has turned so black.

That would count as crapola that's been absorbed into the poly fibers. Oil, dirt, dust, horse poo, leaking transmission fluid from tractors, whatever. Having all those fibers totally permeated by oil to turn them black has got to change the performance characteristics, one would think.

It would be interesting to see the results of some actual scientific compression tests or whatever of the track surface material now vs. that original lighter fluffy stuff. Heck, the fibers don't even LOOK the same any more when you see them up close, down by the rail. Much smaller and more shredded/beat up.

Of the official "Polytrack" brand synthetic surface tracks, I think Woodbine, Turfway, and Del Mar have all changed theirs out at least once since original installation. Don't know about Keeneland. There can't be an indefinite life span to them. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2013, 11:56:16 AM »

I like Terry's "crapola" theory much better -- it lines up with the prevailing AP-hugger mentality I have constructed:

"Our Sh*t Doesn't Stink (but our fake racetrack gives us away!)"

Didn't they used to have a poopmobile (like a golf cart) that ran around after each race and picked up the feces?

They probably should change the old Poly for new Poly but that would cost CD money and come out of my dividends.  I think there is hidden racism against the black color it has become.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 12:08:15 PM »

I think there is hidden racism against the black color it has become.

Looking for racism where others swear it doesn't exist? Hey, that's my job!
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 03:11:41 PM »

They probably should change the old Poly for new Poly but that would cost CD money and come out of my dividends. 

And that, of course, is what's truly important in the corporate mind.

Like Walmart out here in Montana, for instance ... willing to offer a princely $8.30/hr to starting associates (less than offered to starting associates 10 years ago, by the way) while they compete in the labor market against all the oil/gas/coal jobs available, and just cannot figure out for the life of them why they have trouble attracting help and the help they do get robs them blind so store profitability is way low. But they're keeping costs in line, dammit.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2013, 11:30:17 AM »

I thought part of the Poly reasoning was to cut down on scratches when a race comes off the grass !  NOT!
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 09:44:15 AM »

Didn't they used to have a poopmobile (like a golf cart) that ran around after each race and picked up the feces?

They probably should change the old Poly for new Poly but that would cost CD money and come out of my dividends.  I think there is hidden racism against the black color it has become.

this picture from yesterday made me think of this thread, what they need to do is hire more birds to go around the track to eat it  Cheesy

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