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Author Topic: #1 thing that disturbs you about betting Harness racing?  (Read 587 times)
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« on: May 12, 2013, 09:10:55 AM »

Many have mentioned the 1/2 in 1/2 out and I totally agree. To me the main culprit tracks in order are: Woodbine, Meadowlands, Yonkers, and Hoosier.
The only logical enforcement I can see is to $$fine the drivers. Under no circumstances should they hurt the bettors, however, they have to do something.
When a driver tries to take the initiative and make a quick pull, he gets stacked 3 wide and has to back off/take back. This happens multiple times each night, and nothing is ever done? bang head bang head
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 10:55:48 AM »

Your horse breaks right before the line and you can cancel the tix or even worse right after the line.

Or Andy Milker not trying on one of his catch drives.  Look at Friday at the Big M.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 01:47:36 PM »

I REALLY THINK RACING 8 ON GATE WITH THE 9  AND 10 HORSE STARTING BEHIND THE 1 AND 2 HORSE WOULD MAKE GREAT RACING AT THE THE MEADOWLANDS  light bulb
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2013, 01:51:13 PM »

Yonkers moving the races back to a flat mile.

The races were so much more exciting at 1 1/16.
Now, it's just line up numbers and make 4 left turns.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 02:21:09 PM »

Too many drivers you can't trust.
Need extra combinations to make up for the no try guys.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2013, 02:27:41 PM »

paper trainers
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 02:30:50 PM »

paper trainers

Dumping horses to stay in conditions.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 09:55:23 PM »

Yonkers moving the races back to a flat mile.

The races were so much more exciting at 1 1/16.
Now, it's just line up numbers and make 4 left turns.
I agree. When Yonkers moved the finish line, that's when I lost interest.
The horses hit the turn after the start so quickly, it rarely gives outside horses a chance.
1 1/16 helped prevent the "line-ups"
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 11:18:32 PM »

I agree. When Yonkers moved the finish line, that's when I lost interest.
The horses hit the turn after the start so quickly, it rarely gives outside horses a chance.
1 1/16 helped prevent the "line-ups"

I am a Woodbine player exclusively.

I enjoy harness racing to the hilt.

Nothing and I mean nothing bothers me about harness racing.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 12:47:03 AM »

The fans and participants who so obviously hate everyone else's guts, as judged by this forum and others. Never seen so much hatred concentrated in such a small slice of the population in all my life.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 01:04:29 AM »

Incompetent brain dead drivers. They call themselves professionals? I guess somebody has to be the head of the special ed class!!
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 07:25:52 AM »

I am a Woodbine player exclusively.

I enjoy harness racing to the hilt.

Nothing and I mean nothing bothers me about harness racing.
Wouldn't you like Mohawk much better?
I have been to both tracks numerous times and frankly, the is no comparison.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 09:39:31 AM »

The lack of information -- as opposed to thoroughbred betting.

Its great if you are a full time player harness racing player, with no other life distractions.  Then you have a HUGE edge. 


But if you have a life outside of harness racing, and need to count on available data -- well -- that's why I am switching to t-bred.

Of course, the drug issue is also a big problem.  Its a factor in both gambling games, but it does seem worse in harness racing.
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 10:39:05 AM »

Wouldn't you like Mohawk much better?
I have been to both tracks numerous times and frankly, the is no comparison.


Woodbine/Mohawk same thing for me as a handicapper with a slightly different appraoch
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 10:59:55 AM »


Woodbine/Mohawk same thing for me as a handicapper with a slightly different appraoch
I get what you're saying...you meant WEG circuit thumbs up
To go in person, there is no comparison...Mohawk is so much nicer...you can actually see the races outside and the horses are not a mile away from the stands.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2013, 06:54:56 PM »

When I lose a lot of money.
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