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« on: April 23, 2013, 09:52:52 PM »

I saw someone posted something on Facebook saying the contract is done.  Anyone hear anything?
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 09:58:31 PM »

I saw someone posted something on Facebook saying the contract is done.  Anyone hear anything?

A jock agent just posted it on Twitter also. If true, couldnt be better timing
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 10:31:40 PM »

A jock agent just posted it on Twitter also. If true, couldnt be better timing

That is great news if true.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 07:14:53 AM »

Its done, and one detail will really shock you. Very beneficial for both. Will wait for announcement to come
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 08:45:54 AM »

From the ITHA web site -

 April 24, 2013
 
ITHA and Arlington Park are pleased to announce that a two-year contract
between the horsemen and the track was agreed to last night.
We look forward to a great racing season at Arlington.


2 years is great news, we won't have to go through this again next year.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 08:50:38 AM »



Tell me the good part.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 09:12:21 AM »

You rather be like Hawthorne and have NO money left from casino? Took a 1k purse cut because of uncertainity. Id much rather have money in the kitty because slots are still 2 yrsaway from helping us

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 09:24:58 AM »

Its done, and one detail will really shock you. Very beneficial for both. Will wait for announcement to come

If there's some item that's very beneficial to both, it's hard to believe it took so long to agree.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 09:59:54 AM »

Good for them. Too much at risk for both not to reach an agreement. It could have been a PR nightmare for CDI without the Derby signal to Illinois, a distraction from all of the Derby coverage and festivities. Wonder if having the CDI big wigs in town helped reach an agreement.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2013, 10:24:10 AM »

At least with a two year deal the world is spared a repeat next year.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2013, 10:29:54 AM »

At least with a two year deal the world is spared a repeat next year.

How long is Campbell's term? In my opinion, he's been a strong leader, along with others in ITHA's leadership roles, for the horsemen.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2013, 12:20:38 PM »

So is Arlington/CDI still thinking the horseman can write a check for $20 Million or are they going to adjust the Springfield gaming bill to allocate a percentage of revenue to purse accounts?
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2013, 12:33:14 PM »

So is Arlington/CDI still thinking the horseman can write a check for $20 Million or are they going to adjust the Springfield gaming bill to allocate a percentage of revenue to purse accounts?

Campbell would have never agreed to something without having that language written into so I'm assuming there is something.

No one really knows the details yet, but the mood was completely different from yesterday to today.

There are still no horses back there right now, but that will change after this weekend with Hawthorne and Keeneland closing.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2013, 12:34:14 PM »

So is Arlington/CDI still thinking the horseman can write a check for $20 Million or are they going to adjust the Springfield gaming bill to allocate a percentage of revenue to purse accounts?

AP knows that is a nonstarter (our own license).  I haven't seen details yet, but I think that the fact the ITHA agreed to a 2 year deal means that they must have liked most of what they got.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2013, 12:34:45 PM »

If there's some item that's very beneficial to both, it's hard to believe it took so long to agree.

The thing that I thought was beneficial was the 2 year deal. I was utterly shocked that happened because that is against Arlington's status quo, IMO.

Plus, that uncertainty causes alot of people to be hesitant to bring horses here, so hopefully people will be pumped up about next year instead of depressed
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2013, 12:36:59 PM »


Tell me the good part.

Pretty clever edit. I saw what was written about reduction to Galloping out and how they are sitting on all this money (which was very smart considering what Hawthorne did with their riverboat money)

Maybe some positive comments would go a long way, but that is virtually impossible considering the hatred you have for AP.

Why even train here if you have it so bad
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2013, 01:22:48 PM »

AP knows that is a nonstarter (our own license).  I haven't seen details yet, but I think that the fact the ITHA agreed to a 2 year deal means that they must have liked most of what they got.

Or didn't hate it totally. ggenie's reaction wasn't what I would call wild enthusiasm.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2013, 01:37:33 PM »

Marcus just tweeted his story about the agreement will be posted soon.  Hopefully that will give us more clarity...
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2013, 01:45:47 PM »

Or didn't hate it totally. ggenie's reaction wasn't what I would call wild enthusiasm.

Im sure that each person will have their opinion of the final contract.  While they might not be wildly enthusiastic, the fact they signed a 2 year deal leads me to believe that it's a deal they are happy with.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2013, 03:25:07 PM »

Just heard a little blurb about an agreement on WBBM radio.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2013, 03:27:29 PM »

Here's the Tribune version.  Sounds like everybody is friends again.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/438/article/p2p-75615907/
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2013, 03:31:35 PM »

Did anyone ever really think that on-line gaming would be approved in Illinois? The players still can't agree on how to carve up the slots pie. I think that on-line gaming may be a chip to concede in the ongoing negotiations for slots.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2013, 03:45:51 PM »

Here's the Tribune version.  Sounds like everybody is friends again.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/438/article/p2p-75615907/


"The Arlington/ITHA agreement was reached late Tuesday night after negotiations that began at 3 p.m. Arlington was represented by chairman Dick Duchossois and general manager Tony Petrillo and the ITHA by executive director Glen Berman, trainer Chris Block and owners Rick Johnson and Bob Sedlacek."

Sure puts the lie to the story that Churchill Downs Inc. is the bad guy in all these things.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2013, 05:21:38 PM »

"The Arlington/ITHA agreement was reached late Tuesday night after negotiations that began at 3 p.m. Arlington was represented by chairman Dick Duchossois and general manager Tony Petrillo and the ITHA by executive director Glen Berman, trainer Chris Block and owners Rick Johnson and Bob Sedlacek."

Sure puts the lie to the story that Churchill Downs Inc. is the bad guy in all these things.

Since the stockholders' meeting was in the morning with all the directors and executives present, maybe some influence was used on AP to spur on the negotiations in the afternoon and night.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2013, 05:58:17 PM »

"The Arlington/ITHA agreement was reached late Tuesday night after negotiations that began at 3 p.m. Arlington was represented by chairman Dick Duchossois and general manager Tony Petrillo and the ITHA by executive director Glen Berman, trainer Chris Block and owners Rick Johnson and Bob Sedlacek."

Sure puts the lie to the story that Churchill Downs Inc. is the bad guy in all these things.

Terry, CDI is notorious for trying to short-change everyone else. They do not like paying their fair share of the costs. A couple of years ago, Churchill did not want to pay their share of jockey insurance. They finally caved in and paid it. I'd like to see them have horse racing at Churchill without jockeys. They kept $50 from people looking for Derby tickets when they had none to sell. They started charging the backstretch people at Calder for dorm rooms and they started charging for stalls after Calder's meet when it was too late for horsemen to send their horses to Gulfstream or a training center. Gulfstream helped pick up some of those costs by helping the horsemen out.

What happened at Arlington this year, in my opinion, is all CDI driven because there is a trend in how they operate. They could never have recaptured in stall rent what they would have lost with the loss of simulcasts but that is their strategy to first give it a try to charge more. Mr. D helped to resolve the dispute. He is a horseman himself and his one true love is Arlington. He may be Arlington's Chairman but it is still a CDI-owned track.
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