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Author Topic: Arlington blames horsemen for recapture  (Read 882 times)
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« on: April 19, 2013, 07:37:38 AM »

Arlington has apparently become so desperate to smear the horsemen's organization to other horsemen that it is willing to throw two of its staunchest supporters under the bus and call them liars. In the latest installment of their "news" letter we learn the following revelation:

"Every piece of legislation that was written to take recapture out of the law had the full support of Arlington, and this was long before Mr. Campbell became president of the ITHA. The horsemen developed this idea when wagering on out-of-state races was authorized in 1995."

What's that? Now that is precisely the opposite of what we were told at the time by the HBPA/ITHA E.D. (Larry?) as well as the ITHA President at the time, Christine Janks. Not to mention precisely the opposite of what we were told on this very forum many times by the subsequent E.D. Jim Carfagno. Up until now the story has always been that recapture was a last minute thing thrown into the bill by the tracks, and backed by Jim Edgar, but NO! now we learn different, and AP is telling us that two of its biggest and longest-time supporters, Christine Janks and Jim Carfagno, were lying to us all along.

This is it, apparently, Arlington's "smash mouth" negotiation tactics, where it seems no one no matter how loyal or closely connected is safe from the bus if there's money to be grubbed.

Not to mention, of course, that "Arlington" that great champion of doing away with recapture was the first track (and owner) to take advantage of recapture when it immediately claimed such after they ran that very short season of 1995 (or 6) that couldn't possibly match the live handle of the much longer base season of 1994, backed up with a public statement from "Arlington" something akin to tough shit, they should shut up and take their medicine when called out on what a cheap move that was.  

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/horsemen/news
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2013, 07:46:09 AM »

Is Arlington daring horsemen to pull the signal before the meet via this constant intimidation? this is setting up for a showdown. I think Arlington is grossly underestimating the support most horsemen are giving to ITHA.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2013, 09:41:24 AM »

Some horseman will stick together, others will not.  Just like last year withholding entries....Most trainers did while others took advantage of the short fields.  IMO, that should speak volumes about their character.  I predict the same trainers will enter again against any boycott the horseman/ITHA try to play. 
The sad part is that if those few trainers who didn't honor the boycott would this year, we probably wouldn't be faced with such dilemma every spring from Arlington.  Without entries Arlington isn't racing and collecting all their admission/concession money.  I say let them cry a river and shut their doors again....Hawthorne has a beautiful turf course that could be put to good use all summer long!
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2013, 10:47:38 AM »

Terry, explain please. What are Arlington's/CDI's/Tricky Dicky's near-, mid- and long-term motives here? Why get into a civil war with the Illinois horsemen? Sounds a lot like "union" busting to me.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2013, 11:13:17 AM »

The Arlington guys fancy themselves as hard-nosed businessmen,but they are simply put,bookies.Everyone,horsemen included,subsist mostly on gambling revenue.They would be arrested and jailed in many places for what they do.The only difference between them and some poor sap sitting in Leavenworth doing ten to twenty is they are sanctioned by the state.In the grand scheme of things,the world will keep turning without horse racing,Duchossois,Petrillo,Campbell,or any of the other principals in this whole mess.Just get a deal and move on.I know many innocents will be hurt by AP, Hawthorne,or any business closing,but this is such an embarrassment to all involved,arguing over things that in the end are entirely childish and ego driven.No wonder this state is a train wreck.Put up or shut up,or close the place and move on.The sun will still rise tomorrow.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2013, 12:18:59 PM »

Terry, explain please. What are Arlington's/CDI's/Tricky Dicky's near-, mid- and long-term motives here? Why get into a civil war with the Illinois horsemen? Sounds a lot like "union" busting to me.

I could offer you an opinion, but that's all. But "union busting" is as good an explanation as any.



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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2013, 02:53:37 PM »

I could offer you an opinion, but that's all. But "union busting" is as good an explanation as any.

Let me add that horse racing right now is the enabler to bigger and more profitable ventures for the track owners. The real money for them is in ADW and online gambling (slots if online gaming doesn't go through). What's happening in Illinois is also occurring in Ohio. The track owners don't want to share the profits from ADW, online wagering and slots with the horsemen, although they are using the horsemen to gain access to these profits. Just watch how fast the track owners dump horse racing if they get ADW, online gaming/slots without sharing. Why you ask? Because horse racing has high maintenance costs and horse racing keeps losing fans and business. As always, the bottom line is always profits.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 02:57:47 PM »

Just watch how fast the track owners dump horse racing if they get ADW, online gaming/slots without sharing. Why you ask? Because horse racing has high maintenance costs and horse racing keeps losing fans and business.

And because horse racing involves pesky horsemen, who insist on acting like partners with rights instead of $2.00/hr disposable labor living in the company town and spending their wages at the company store, while toiling away in the service of higher profits for track owners.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 07:14:15 AM »

Still no insight from anyone, tbred or harness side, as to how it was horsemen who came up with the idea of recapture?
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 08:22:00 AM »

Let me add that horse racing right now is the enabler to bigger and more profitable ventures for the track owners. The real money for them is in ADW and online gambling (slots if online gaming doesn't go through). What's happening in Illinois is also occurring in Ohio. The track owners don't want to share the profits from ADW, online wagering and slots with the horsemen, although they are using the horsemen to gain access to these profits. Just watch how fast the track owners dump horse racing if they get ADW, online gaming/slots without sharing. Why you ask? Because horse racing has high maintenance costs and horse racing keeps losing fans and business. As always, the bottom line is always profits.

i thought it was written into law in ohio a certain minimum % of slots revenue was going the horsemen regardless of an agreement of it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 01:07:18 PM »

Still no insight from anyone, tbred or harness side, as to how it was horsemen who came up with the idea of recapture?
Terry, the idea that horsemen came up with recapture is so nonsensical, I really hate to give it any credibility by commenting on it.  How does Arlington come up with this bullshit? 
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 04:36:39 PM »

Terry, the idea that horsemen came up with recapture is so nonsensical, I really hate to give it any credibility by commenting on it.  How does Arlington come up with this bullshit? 

They're likely counting on most folks not remembering the facts (or not having the energy or desire to dig back more than a decade ago). It's much like AP's CasiNO! campaign that they vigorously led prior to the riverboat licenses being awarded. Oooops - BAD move Mr D. Admittedly that's hindsight but it just shows you that enough money can entice some to turn a trick, I mean 180 degrees.
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