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« on: March 22, 2013, 02:06:45 PM »

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/horsebiz/2013/03/22/tvg-dropping-wagering-fees/

Betfair’s TVG account wagering service announced Friday it is dropping wagering fees.

The fees were mocked in advertising by TVG competitor TwinSpires.com, which is the ADW of Louisville-based Churchill Downs Inc.

The TVG policy change is effective April 1.
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 02:57:11 PM »

The customer is always right.  WHAT A CONCEPT!!  sarcasm

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 10:48:20 AM »

You are lucky being able to wager via TVG.   The Illinois politicians have shut down opportunities for their hard working and tax paying masses to participate in ADW wagering.  These current politcos are following in the footsteps of previous crooks, prison inmates, and ex-governers Blagojevich, Ryan, Kerner, and Walker.  The State of Illinois politicians are ruining a noble industry while trying to protect the casino owners from fair competition.  They are also protecting their streams of income collected via the State Lottery (so double talk since you can buy lottery tickets via signing up on the internet).  Pensions for state workers are outrageous, yet all the state wants to do is tax the masses and basically buy votes and loyalty from that part of the constituency that continues to vote the machine into office.  The state of Illinois has no respect for the horse racing fan. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 07:41:14 AM »

You are lucky being able to wager via TVG.   The Illinois politicians have shut down opportunities for their hard working and tax paying masses to participate in ADW wagering. 

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 12:44:07 AM »

You are lucky being able to wager via TVG.   The Illinois politicians have shut down opportunities for their hard working and tax paying masses to participate in ADW wagering.  These current politcos are following in the footsteps of previous crooks, prison inmates, and ex-governers Blagojevich, Ryan, Kerner, and Walker.  The State of Illinois politicians are ruining a noble industry while trying to protect the casino owners from fair competition.  They are also protecting their streams of income collected via the State Lottery (so double talk since you can buy lottery tickets via signing up on the internet).  Pensions for state workers are outrageous, yet all the state wants to do is tax the masses and basically buy votes and loyalty from that part of the constituency that continues to vote the machine into office.  The state of Illinois has no respect for the horse racing fan. 



Where is the applause icon?  beer

And note how the most restrictions are always in the most liberal states, like yours, mine (Ca) Mass. and NY.   RIP
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 05:31:10 AM »

Bravo
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 07:50:36 PM »

Where is the applause icon?  beer

And note how the most restrictions are always in the most liberal states, like yours, mine (Ca) Mass. and NY.   RIP

I haven't checked lately, but I'm pretty sure there's no ADW in Utah or Georgia, two states controlled by right-wing wackos.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 07:57:35 PM »

I haven't checked lately, but I'm pretty sure there's no ADW in Utah or Georgia, two states controlled by right-wing wackos.

Not to mention totally illegal in that bastion of personal freedoms, Texas. And I don't think Gov. Jan Brewer's state of AZ Is on board, either.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 10:34:55 AM »

Not to mention totally illegal in that bastion of personal freedoms, Texas. And I don't think Gov. Jan Brewer's state of AZ Is on board, either.

Who is in control in Illinois??  Two fools who see things only one way.  All politicians are the same it's just a shame your vision is clouded by a monthly check in the mailbox.

The Democrats are in control in Illinois yet ADW's are illegal.  Any state where there is no ADW wagering is all about getting the right ammount of money in front of the right politican and depending on competition, who gets it to them first.

Wake up.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 11:04:46 AM »

I haven't checked lately, but I'm pretty sure there's no ADW in Utah or Georgia, two states controlled by right-wing wackos.

There's also NO RACING industry in those states either!   Did you know that?  Good bye. Now I know why a lot of good people don't visit this board as often.  Have a great day.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 11:25:54 AM »

There's also NO RACING industry in those states either!   Did you know that?  Good bye. Now I know why a lot of good people don't visit this board as often.  Have a great day.

How dare you cloud someone's warped view of the world with facts, who do you think you are.  Don't you understand that facts most of the time are not on their side?

Excellent post my man.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 01:19:07 PM »

There's also NO RACING industry in those states either!   Did you know that?  Good bye.

There used to be bush meets in Utah and a jumping meet in Atlanta. You mean they don't have then any more?
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 08:14:26 AM »

There used to be bush meets in Utah and a jumping meet in Atlanta. You mean they don't have then any more?

Not sure about Atlanta but I think Utah might race 6-8 days this year.  Most Utah horsemen used to race at Wyoming Downs.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 08:44:03 AM »

There used to be bush meets in Utah and a jumping meet in Atlanta. You mean they don't have then any more?

Yes, there are still bush meets in Utah (4 days this year at Beaver alone!), as well as a flourishing chariot racing scene. And contrary to Grinder's assertion, the industry is pretty big, at least in regard to breeding racing quarterhorses that compete all over the west and southwest. There's no legal gambling on those Utah races, though, but they do compete for some nice pots anyhow

What the existence of an actual local racing industry has to do with "liberal" restrictions on gamblers using ADW to bet on races in far away states, I'm not at all sure, and that's what was being discussed. For instance, there's no horse racing in states like Wisconsin, but they allow ADW. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2013, 06:11:51 PM »

My point was more of a assumption that ADW should be allowed in all states with racing. The distribution of monies handled by ADW however should be on the table for negotiation on an individual state by state basis too. Let the people decide.  The people have turned down ADW in some states, and that is their opinion, fine.

BUT......states like Illinois should allow ADW and should also be able to negotiate the $$ before implementing it so horsemen do not suffer, like they are at Cal Expo. (handle is UP thanks to TVG, but state routing of adw wagering dollars does not benefit horsemen nearly as much %-wise as off track or intra-state satellite handle does.) That needs to be addressed by our racing industry representatives.

ADW arguement Not so important in Utah or Georgia or Hawaii, until their people decide they want a racing / breeding industry.

Thats my humble opinion.
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