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« Reply #100 on: August 13, 2013, 07:25:12 PM »

"Stay out of public forum discussions."

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What a doofus.

What is this from? Some leftover correctitude flotsam from another thread you were correcting?

You're in so many threads, you're getting sloppy.  Cheesy
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« Reply #101 on: August 13, 2013, 07:52:27 PM »

To add nothing but humor to this thread, my gf and I just ran the 5k at Arlington Park today. You finish the final 6.5 F on the actual Poly track, which was awesome. Fortunately they packed the track tight so I wasn't spinning my wheels, but after my gf says, 'God, I'm sore as hell! That track is rough!'
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« Reply #102 on: August 13, 2013, 08:11:40 PM »

Fortunately they packed the track tight so I wasn't spinning my wheels, but after my gf says, 'God, I'm sore as hell! That track is rough!'

You might not be laughing if the gf is so sore in the hindquarters that you two can't have relations for 3 months! Those soft tissue injuries are nothing to sneeze at.

Of course, you could always sell her to the Amish...or just ship her to Beulah.
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« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2013, 08:35:49 PM »

You might not be laughing if the gf is so sore in the hindquarters that you two can't have relations for 3 months! Those soft tissue injuries are nothing to sneeze at.

Of course, you could always sell her to the Amish...or just ship her to Beulah.
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« Reply #104 on: August 14, 2013, 12:01:26 AM »

What is this from? Some leftover correctitude flotsam from another thread you were correcting?

Pretty funny, coming from the king doofus of all correctors Horse Voice, most lately seen here in this thread trying to "correct" the facts and stats as reported by the Jockey Club to match his own warped little world view. "I'm Horse Voice! I like to pretend I'm a player! Some far more successful players I gossip with/put up with me  occasionally don't like poly, and I need to agree with them to "fit in the loop", so I agree ... it's bad! Okay, I've got no actual stats or anything, but it's bad!"

What an utter f---in goof.

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« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2013, 06:39:37 AM »

Okay, I've got no actual stats or anything, but it's bad!"


How the hell would you know, anyway?

You are (supposedly) gambling once a week, on some leaky-roof track in an area God forgot about, that has a surface made up of lizard scales, tumbleweed, and sheep shit.

You don't know a damn thing about synthetics other than what you have read on the Internet; you are "virtually" informed.  laughing guy

Actual experience trumps "book smart" every day of the week; you are simply full of talk, Terry. Or something. Start gambling regularly on synthetic, and if you can just break even on that shit, then come back and yap about how great it is.

Otherwise, stay in Montana and STFU. We will contact you if we need help with fishing or growing tomatillos.
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« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2013, 07:10:37 AM »

You do not speak for all other horseplayers, as would be indicated by "no one cares". Obviously you do not speak for Al. There are plenty of other American players who follow European racing, too.

OK, then -- all you big-time group of Euro racing followers -- the 7th at Clairefountaine is about to go off; who do ya like?

Not enough time? Fair enough.

How about a pick at Salisbury some time today? Or Beverley? Pornichet?

What about Kempton Park?

Anything at all Euro?

Al? Terry?

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« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2013, 09:12:40 AM »

How the hell would you know, anyway?

You are (supposedly) gambling once a week, on some leaky-roof track in an area God forgot about, that has a surface made up of lizard scales, tumbleweed, and sheep shit.

Another Horse Voice distortion or intentional lie. I play occasionally at those tracks. In between those visits I play the same simulcast tracks as anyone, but mostly Illinois. Today it will be both Saratoga and Del Mar.

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Uh huh. And since I do gamble, I have that experience. So you STFU.

But no matter how you wiggle and squirm, you still speak only for yourself on the issue of synthetics. The numbers at places like Del Mar tell us clearly that the great mass of horseplayers don't have the same weaknesses as you.
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« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2013, 09:16:22 AM »

OK, then -- all you big-time group of Euro racing followers -- the 7th at Clairefountaine is about to go off; who do ya like?

Not enough time? Fair enough.

Another fabrication of yours that I made any claim to following Euro racing every single day.

You're really quite a master of fabricating straw windmills to bravely charge into battle against, aren't you, Don Quixote?
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« Reply #109 on: August 14, 2013, 01:10:15 PM »

The numbers at places like Del Mar tell us clearly that the great mass of horseplayers don't have the same weaknesses as you.

You are deceitfully ignoring my earlier post where I said Del Mar has an actual track profile that can be counted on, and is a rather obvious exception to the other POS Polytrack joints (i.e., it's playable).
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« Reply #110 on: August 14, 2013, 01:13:17 PM »

Another fabrication of yours that I made any claim to following Euro racing every single day.

OK, fine. I'm wrong about "today".

When was the LAST day you followed Euro racing? Can't remember?

When do you think will be the *next* day...Mr. "I am a Regular Horseplayer, and I Regularly Follow Euro Racing"?

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« Reply #111 on: August 14, 2013, 07:15:06 PM »

OK, fine. I'm wrong about "today".

You're wrong all the time. You fabricated your whole story about my playing habits.

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Say there Mr. (or Ms.) anonymous screen name Internet gabs-a-lot, do you ever find time to bet any actual horses, or do you just troll the Internet all day trying to "correct" people like Al on the subject of poly, or "correct" cliffyy on the picks he posts, or "correct" clockerbob on the nonsense he posts? You should try heedin your own advice, and keep your nosy snout out of other people's private business.
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« Reply #112 on: August 15, 2013, 05:12:13 AM »

If you are a "Regular Follower of Euro Racing", this should have been an E-Z answer.

But you ducked (again), so I get to fill in any answers I want. I'm probably pretty close with what I supplied below.

When was the LAST day you followed Euro racing? Can't remember?

Royal Ascot, I think, when the Queen Mum's horse won; that, or in 1996, when Pilsudski ran 2nd in the Arc.

When do you think will be the *next* day...Mr. "I am a Regular Horseplayer, and I Regularly Follow Euro Racing"?

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Dunno. Gotta keep an eye on the tomatillos, the GF says. Doesn't leave much time for "regular" Montana leaky-roof racing, let alone that funny furriner "running the wrong way" stuff.  screwy
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« Reply #113 on: August 15, 2013, 06:42:59 AM »

Synthetics are mostly at higher level tracks.....Easy answer
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« Reply #114 on: August 15, 2013, 08:50:05 AM »

If you are a "Regular Follower of Euro Racing", this should have been an E-Z answer.

It was an EZ answer, but not one you are entitled to. You're an anonymous Internet nobody with no right at all to demand answers about anything from anyone.
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« Reply #115 on: August 15, 2013, 08:53:57 AM »

Synthetics are mostly at higher level tracks.....Easy answer

It's a possibility. Or it could the simple answer that the Jockey Club gives.

It's always amazing how "the real answer" to any issue is actually the poster's personal spin.
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« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2013, 06:27:49 AM »

It was an EZ answer, but not one you are entitled to. You're an anonymous Internet nobody with no right at all to demand answers about anything from anyone.

"EZ"? Try "sleazy", as in, what a sleazy cop out. You got caught fibbing, again: you may have "dabbled" in Euro racing at times, but a "regular follower"? No. Even if I'm not entitled to the truth, the Forum is, if you want to maintain any credibility here.

Like anybody here believes you are anything but a "cut & paste" faux horse racing expert these days -- oh, you posted your real identity, so that makes any crap you try to float past the Forum automatically true? Hogwash. You're on lockout (or extremely limited access) to actual horse racing, and have been for quite some time. Too many tells.
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« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2013, 09:14:15 PM »

"EZ"?

EZ as in the E-Z yiou originally wrote, you moron.

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Try "sleazy", as in, what a sleazy cop out. You got caught fibbing, again: you may have "dabbled" in Euro racing at times, but a "regular follower"? No.

You are truly the lying *** of all time. I made no claim to being a "regular follower". In fact I specifically said I did not follow it every day after you tried to lie about it the first time.

What I wrote was "There are plenty of other American players who follow European racing, too" and "you were attempting to speak on my behalf as well as that of many others when you tried to put over a fast one with your claim that 'no one' was interested in European racing". But of course that does not stop you from concocting another of your endless lies and arguing against that with this new "regular follower" story, because you are truly a pathetic lying POS.

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Even if I'm not entitled to the truth, the Forum is, if you want to maintain any credibility here.

The truth is that you are a serial lying troll who constantly makes up charges against posters who call out your self-important BS, and then try and argue against that. But prove this isn't true: Produce the post where I claimed I was any "regular follower" of Euro racing.

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oh, you posted your real identity, so that makes any crap you try to float past the Forum automatically true?

No, I didn't say that, of course. What I said was you're nothing but a phony Internet screen name who is not entitled to demand anything of anyone here. My name merely makes me someone who takes responsibility for what he writes, unlike anonymous cowards like you, and also someone who cannot put anything past the readers who do know me, unlike what phony anonymous Internet constructs like you try to do.

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Like anybody here believes you are anything but a "cut & paste" faux horse racing expert these days

I'm quite sure that the assembled readership has noticed that you never did answer the question of what it is you supposedly know about anything at all regarding racing that's not known by someone who plays less often than you (claim to) play. But in the meantime, I'm also sure the assembled readership that actually knows something about horses has, like me, laughed their asses off on a regular basis about some of the horsemanship "expertise" you've shared here.
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« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2013, 04:11:03 AM »

I made no claim to being a "regular follower". In fact I specifically said I did not follow it every day

Well, it's hard to get you to tell the exact truth. You are very slippery.

If you don't follow Euro racing on a regular basis, then you didn't have any business butting in here, and you didn't need to shill for Big Al, who -- contrary to your opinion demonstrated by your actions -- is quite capable of defending himself.

THAT only took about 15 posts. Jeezus.

Now...how much longer will it take to get you to admit that you are no longer a regular horseplayer, either?  bang head
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« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2013, 09:15:23 AM »

Well, it's hard to get you to tell the exact truth. You are very slippery.

The exact truth is that you are not entitled to interrogate me, especially to divert the conversation and change the subject from the original conversation, which was your phony self-important claim that "no one" is interested in foreign racing as a faulty logic justification to DQ Al's example of a horse that ran over poly and then won an important Euro race. That's your standard MO, it is clearly obvious what you're trying to do, and I'm not playing along with that. The subject isn't me, it is your statement(s).

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If you don't follow Euro racing on a regular basis

I didn't say at any point to what extent I "follow" Euro racing, one way or then other. Another lie from you. What I did admit to was being "interested", which you claimed "no one" was. Others here are also interested, because there have been many threads about it in the past. People also discuss it on the Derby List, which is where you apparently picked up your information about this thing called Royal Ascot. You were obviously wrong about "no one" being interested in it, and my original statement (which you are now so desperately trying to fight) was dead on - "That YOU don't care about."

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then you didn't have any business butting in here

If you "don't care" about Euro racing at all like you claim, you had no business commenting on Al's example in the first place, and no authority to determine whether or not his example was valid. But you did anyhow, choosing to exercise your right as a forum member to comment on an public post another member made. If you didn't want that to be a public conversation, open for any other member to also exercise his or her right to comment on public posts, then you should have taken it to PM.   

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and you didn't need to shill for Big Al, who -- contrary to your opinion demonstrated by your actions -- is quite capable of defending himself.

You're quite a poor reader, and once again a fabricator. I know Al can take care of himself, and I'm not "defending" him at all. I'm taking issue with an untruth you posted about other racing fans and their interest in Euro racing. Just speak for yourself, without pretending to be some self-appointed mouthpiece for all other players/fans in order to lend some phony authority to your weak ass arguments.

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Now...how much longer will it take to get you to admit that you are no longer a regular horseplayer, either?

That won't happen, because I do play regularly, as I have stated numerous times. Furthermore, the personal definition of "regular player" from an anonymous Internet poseur and self-styled expert with a long history of fabrication such as yourself is utterly irrelevant. Regular means regular. That's all it means. I play regularly.

And finally, frequency of actual play (as opposed to any other method of obtaining information) is apparently irrelevant, as you studiously avoid ever informing the forum just what special knowledge or authority a player of your (claimed greater) frequency is supposed to possess. The only thing we've ever seen out of you that points to anything above and beyond standard simulcast rat gossip, handicapping text learning, and [often mistaken] player's "common knowledge" that you seem to have picked upon other forums and mindlessly repeat in order to appear part of the "cool crowd" is your (claimed) personal acquaintance with some hot walker or mucker for the Dutrow barn, that somehow made you an expert on everyone and everything associated with his regulatory troubles. We all know or have known hot-walkers and muckers an know the value of their information.

So are you planning on playing any horses today, or are you just going to hang around the Internet trolling and pretending to be some bigshot player, as usual? Have fun either way, I gotta run - more live racing to attend.
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« Reply #120 on: August 19, 2013, 08:29:28 AM »

But its a dry heat.
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« Reply #121 on: August 20, 2013, 12:51:41 PM »

dank (grade 1 winner) broke her maiden in April 2012 on the poly at kempton, you have heard of her before right HV. clocker biggestal
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« Reply #122 on: August 20, 2013, 01:32:17 PM »

dank (grade 1 winner) broke her maiden in April 2012 on the poly at kempton, you have heard of her before right HV.

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Not before Saturday.

Let me ask you this, Al: if you are in the UK, and you don't run on turf...what then?

If all that's left is poly, that's not making a "positive choice" to run on poly...it's a DEFAULT. It's all that is left if you can't run on turf.

Sorry, not impressed at all.
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« Reply #123 on: August 20, 2013, 03:07:48 PM »

Not before Saturday.

Let me ask you this, Al: if you are in the UK, and you don't run on turf...what then?

If all that's left is poly, that's not making a "positive choice" to run on poly...it's a DEFAULT. It's all that is left if you can't run on turf.

Sorry, not impressed at all.

sir Michael stoute had a lot of turf maidens to run dank in back in april 2012 and he positively choose poly for his g1 animal

And you seriously want selections on euro races, how bout this one on the red board.

Wes wards mercurial no nay never to win the g1 Prix morny.

One question do you just pass the race if an unknown (to you) euro is running. I mean almost every serious horseplayer I know knew the dank (and duntle) ran huge races at royal ascot.

But you never heard of dank? Wow.

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« Reply #124 on: August 20, 2013, 03:15:41 PM »

Not before Saturday.

Let me ask you this, Al: if you are in the UK, and you don't run on turf...what then?

If all that's left is poly, that's not making a "positive choice" to run on poly...it's a DEFAULT. It's all that is left if you can't run on turf.

Sorry, not impressed at all.


Well if its winter and the turf flat racing season is over and you have an in form horse

What to do.

Ship him to the few venues that race on grass in the winter here in the states or rest the horse until the spring or race the horse on the poly.

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