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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2013, 02:21:41 PM »

Here is an excerpt from a 2010 report of US drugs in racing.

Doping vs. Overage:

Considering that Class I and Class II violations can best be described as “doping"  and others characterized as therapeutic overages of legal substances the following chart should put the results of the drug testing program in proper context. Again, it is important to note that the doping rate is 0.015% of all samples tested, an extremely rare occurrence.

Ninety-four percent of the horses found to be in violation of the medication rules in 2010 were cited for a substance with less capacity to affect performance than those that would qualify as doping agents. Of those, 72% are for violations of Class IV substances with even less potential to affect performance, if at all.

Read the report on this link

http://www.bloodhorse.com/pdf/DrugsInUSRacing2010_TheFacts.pdf

And this has what to do with the EPO and other drugs these chemists are using??? screwy screwy screwy
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2013, 02:25:15 PM »

And this has what to do with the EPO and other drugs these chemists are using??? screwy screwy screwy

Were discussing Cassie Coleman suspension in this thread fool.

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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2013, 02:31:20 PM »

And your point?

Again, it is important to note that the doping rate is 0.015% of all samples tested, an extremely rare occurrence.


You and Juice howling like monkeys for such a rare occurence of doping in harness racing.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2013, 02:32:33 PM »

Again, it is important to note that the doping rate is 0.015% of all samples tested, an extremely rare occurrence.


You and Juice howling like monkeys for such a rare occurence of doping in harness racing.

What is the % of undetectable substances?
I say 65-70%.
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2013, 02:35:40 PM »

What is the % of undetectable substances?
I say 65-70%.

They're undetectable, but we have an estimate of their prevalence.

Hell, I say 10,000% Who's to say I'm wrong? They're undetectable!
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2013, 02:35:44 PM »

I tested positive for 2 lbs of roast beef in me at lunch. beer
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2013, 02:36:38 PM »

I tested positive for 2 lbs of roast beef in me at lunch. beer

WHERE WAS TEST PERFORMED? laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2013, 02:37:49 PM »

They're undetectable, but we have an estimate of their prevalence.

Hell, I say 10,000% Who's to say I'm wrong? They're undetectable!

More cheaters then actual specimens to be tested?
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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2013, 02:40:25 PM »

Why must you call everyone names when you are proven wrong time after time Ray?

Quite the contrary. I am sure you will go home tonight with a little bit of extra knowledge about drugs in horse racing than when you came in here with.

If you talk foolishly, I will call you a fool. Like it or lump it.

Class 1V drugs Yep thats hard drugs. Yes lets kick everyone who uses a therapeutic drug on their horses out of the game forever. screwy


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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2013, 02:41:32 PM »

More cheaters then actual specimens to be tested?

Why not? Who's to say it's not true? There could be 20 undetectable drugs in every horse. Who's to say it's not true? THEY'RE UNDETECTABLE!
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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2013, 02:43:00 PM »

WHERE WAS TEST PERFORMED? laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy

My in-house lavoratory
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2013, 02:44:44 PM »

My in-house lavoratory

Whew. Thought you were going to say "doctor" and "cholesterol".
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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2013, 02:47:02 PM »

Whew. Thought you were going to say "doctor" and "cholesterol".

No that rubber glove leaves a tingly sensation.
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2013, 02:47:44 PM »

Nothat rubber gloves leave a tingly sensation.

Was Dr Cates present?
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2013, 02:49:28 PM »

Why not? Who's to say it's not true? There could be 20 undetectable drugs in every horse. Who's to say it's not true? THEY'RE UNDETECTABLE!


 laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy

JJ can see all those undetectable drugs, After all he is Juice Junkies.
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2013, 02:50:23 PM »

Where you referring to Ronald D. Cates,Dr. Harold E. Cates Jr,Dr Chris Cates or Dr. Joe A. Cates ?

Oh wait neither of them helped me out.
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« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2013, 02:51:42 PM »

Was gonna get you my boat anchor
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« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2013, 02:58:57 PM »

JD I think you need extra  binoculars

Go over this thread one more time and you will find my reply.

I assure you.

Yes im sorry i missed that, do you go to Woodbine or mohawk?
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« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2013, 03:03:50 PM »


Mostly from the internet and some private sources which I am not at liberty to discuss.



So you get info from private sources that tell you how clean the sport is and how good the testing is?   i can understand the private sources but if they are telling you this info why would it need to be kept private if its all positive?
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« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2013, 03:12:06 PM »

Insert BEard. Ever see that clown drive. What a joke.

He has no beard but he looks like Justin Bieber
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« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2013, 03:13:45 PM »

Coleman Hearing Next Monday


Trot Insider has learned that trainer Casie Coleman will have a hearing with Ontario Racing Commission judges next Monday after three of her horses tested positive for Flumethasone.

Wintering with her stable in Florida, Coleman was informed on Monday night by conference call with ORC judges that Hilarious Halo, Mc Dynamite and Run On Luck received post-race positive tests from races conducted between February 16 and 22 at Woodbine Racetrack.

Coleman told Trot Insider that she cannot fathom how the horses tested positive given the veterinary records, and has released that info to the ORC.

Flumethasone is a corticosteroid, and is commonly sold and used as Flucort in topical or liquid form.
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« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2013, 03:14:50 PM »

She also couldn't fathom the Reibercrombie positive.
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« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2013, 03:18:28 PM »

He has no beard but he looks like Justin Bieber

Drives like Forest Gump. Was there driving 2 years ago at the meds. AWFUL!
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« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2013, 03:25:18 PM »

Damn, she has been silent on facebook today, not talking about ordering Peter Lugar steaks, vacationing in Antiqua or going to polo match. Or posting pictures of her expensive car. What gives?
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« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2013, 03:29:14 PM »

Damn, she has been silent on facebook today, not talking about ordering Peter Lugar steaks, vacationing in Antiqua or going to polo match. Or posting pictures of her expensive car. What gives?

You got her on Facebook? "Awesome"

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