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Author Topic: Thursday - Gulfstream Race 5  (Read 387 times)
Ghostjones
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« on: February 25, 2013, 07:56:36 PM »

I don't think I've ever seen a worst collection of horses in a race there before.

1 mile on the dirt for 12.5k maiden claimers. Here are the lengths beaten last out for the field:

1 - 27.5 lengths
2 - 16.5 lengths on turf (19.25 on last dirt race)
3 - 39 lengths
4 - 12 lengths
5 - 19.25 lengths on turf (only race)
6 - 7.25 lengths on turf (25.75 on dirt last race)
7 - 25.25 lengths
8 - 15.75 lengths
9 - 18.25 lengths
10 - 29.25 lengths
11 - 22.5 lengths
12 - 41 lengths

What a field and it kicks off the Rainbow P6. I would probably use the 1 who shows decent works after his crappy first and only start. Should be on the lead I would think and that is a good thing against this bunch.
And the 8 who drew the rail for his first start at 6 furlongs, then caught a sloppy track last out, now stretches out and lures Luis Saez for a decent trainer.
The only big dropper is the 5 but that is going turf (where he was 134 to 1 in a 5f race) to stretching out on the dirt for a trainer that I've never heard of and is 22 - 0 - 0 - 0 on the meet.

Any thoughts? I'm bored on a Monday night  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 08:24:32 PM »

In many decades of following the runners, I have never seen a Gulfstream meet this bad. Save for the occasional MSW and NW1 race, and the odd stake, it's basically Calder East. $6250 claimers?  Mdn 12s?


The trainers' top ten in wins includes Giuseppe Iadisernia, Antonio Sano and Peter Walder.  Walder is a very good trainer, and the other two aren't slouches, but... GULFSTREAM??
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2013, 08:39:08 PM »

I don't think I've ever seen a worst collection of horses in a race there before.




I'm disappointed - for only 5 of the 12 have ever earned a 'zero' Beyer before.

When you start reaching places where none of the starters has ever earned a positive integer then you've seen the light.



As for thoughts, I'm quickly drawn to the rail horse.  Pair of next-out winners (albeit slow ones) from his only prior race, and plenty of improvement potential for a lightly-raced runner who may go shooting for the lead in a spot without much early pace to it.  Smart morning works since the debut run.

Barn is a robust 47-for-224 with the sprint-to-route move over the past 5 years.   (46-for-173 when they're under 10-1)

Barn's last 10 sprint-to-route tries @ Gulfstream when under 10-1 =  3-4-1 results.

In many scenarios this horse would be a long bomb, but potentially not so much so in this field.

If you excuse the debut for the wet surface, then perhaps a main hurdle is the inside draw in this one-turn mile.

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2013, 08:47:56 PM »


I'm disappointed - for only 5 of the 12 have ever earned a 'zero' Beyer before.

When you start reaching places where none of the starters has ever earned a positive integer then you've seen the light.



As for thoughts, I'm quickly drawn to the rail horse.  Pair of next-out winners (albeit slow ones) from his only prior race, and plenty of improvement potential for a lightly-raced runner who may go shooting for the lead in a spot without much early pace to it.  Smart morning works since the debut run.

Barn is a robust 47-for-224 with the sprint-to-route move over the past 5 years.   (46-for-173 when they're under 10-1)

Barn's last 10 sprint-to-route tries @ Gulfstream when under 10-1 =  3-4-1 results.

In many scenarios this horse would be a long bomb, but potentially not so much so in this field.

If you excuse the debut for the wet surface, then perhaps a main hurdle is the inside draw in this one-turn mile.



No doubt that is why the bug boy is up too. Curious to see what the ML will be on him.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 11:58:53 AM »

In many decades of following the runners, I have never seen a Gulfstream meet this bad. Save for the occasional MSW and NW1 race, and the odd stake, it's basically Calder East. $6250 claimers?  Mdn 12s?


The trainers' top ten in wins includes Giuseppe Iadisernia, Antonio Sano and Peter Walder.  Walder is a very good trainer, and the other two aren't slouches, but... GULFSTREAM??
And the best part is...They want to have a LONGER meet.Yeaaaaaaaaa!
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 02:50:47 PM »

You can probably thank those nice purses in New York for the decline in Gulfstream's  racing product...
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 03:14:01 PM »

Not that New York's present product is that much better
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 02:58:02 PM »

1 is 5/2 fav with 8 mtp

So much for getting any value

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