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« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2013, 02:44:16 PM »

this is bullshit mr balanced ...and its bumming me out.

I agree it is bullshit we can't bet, but the legal issues you posted about just aren't there.
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« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2013, 02:28:53 PM »

this situation does not make sense,
and it does not make sense becasue we are missing all the pieces,
and i suspect the missing pieces are some sort of missing enevelope filled with cash....
do you wanna buy a senate seat ?

we are not typing about about a new source of revenue that may or may not be workable. this is a piece of legislation set to be reknewed so the things that got the first bill past, could be gotten again a few years later in order to renew the bill...whatever those things were are missing this time around..

it stinks of payoffs and payola...and it stinks REAL bad.

why would the elected representatives in a state ranked the lowest on the credit rating scale, 2 years away from being current on its medical liability payments to doctors, refuse to renew a revenue stream already in place drawing in almost 2 million dollars..

2 million for the people is 2 million more than the people are seeing now.

this is irresponsible and personally greedy morally egregiously selfish behavior by those waiting for what ever it is they seem to be waiting for.
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« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2013, 04:14:59 PM »

There will probably be some horse trading going on with this law renewal and I don't mean the type we bet on.  Again, Chicago wants to get their hands on that 70 million plus 10th boat casino money.  To do so, they may attempt blocking the ADW renewal bill.  Anyway I don't think our horsemen are happy with the current ADW bill anyhow.  I believe the legislature is just coming back to session now, so they have had no chance to consider anything.  Our bill may be way down the list of things to accomplish with the financial mess Illinois is in.  So get out to Hawthorne or those OTB's and bet away.

That will give you something to do, Secretariat.  You are doing too much thinking and that seems to hurt your brain.
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« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2013, 04:24:10 PM »

why would the elected representatives in a state ranked the lowest on the credit rating scale, 2 years away from being current on its medical liability payments to doctors, refuse to renew a revenue stream already in place drawing in almost 2 million dollars..


I can answer this one --- it's because they're a bunch of damned idiots!
Also, two million dollars is nothing to the Illinois legislature, they waste that much every day before breakfast.
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« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2013, 04:30:44 PM »

That will give you something to do, Secretariat.  You are doing too much thinking and that seems to hurt your brain.

I think he's a got a good start on a scathing letter to the editor, though.
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« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2013, 04:49:53 PM »

I think he's a got a good start on a scathing letter to the editor, though.

I think we all would suggest Fuzzy proofread the letter before submission.
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« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2013, 07:09:14 PM »

I think we all would suggest Fuzzy proofread the letter before submission.

Every day we find new common ground.
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« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2013, 10:07:34 PM »

Such a slap in the face now when you log in to Xpressbet



Late Feb? It is now March 6th and nothing. I almost forget what it is like to bet online  Undecided
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« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2013, 07:54:54 AM »

4466 was last years bill... the only HB I am aware is Lang's Bill HB0995... that is sitting in a committee with no Hearings Scheduled... It looks like best case scenario is before the Derby and worst case it gets  wrapped in a larger gaming bill
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« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2013, 03:46:41 PM »

Exact thing I was thinking, TR ... eerily similar.

Eerily similar M.O., too ... the repeated "because I proved you wrong so easily" blah blah.  

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Well I'm back to see if ANYONE on here knew anything about why the 2 bills are hung up in the rules committee when the d-bag Governor is calling for Gambling Expansion. Not surprisingly, no one here has a clue.

A few more facts for you-- I've never been here before this original thread. I'm sure the administrators can confirm that.

The fact that someone else would find it easy to prove you wrong doesn't surprise me since you still believe you are correct in this matter, even though you still never provided a SINGLE link to news about this prior to Jan 1st from a site OTHER than this obscure forum or the Bloodlhorse. NOT ONE, yet you still believe the IRB did a "fine" job communicating it. An obvious reflection of your standards of quality. No reasonable person would agree with your position since you can'[t back it up with any evidence that supports it.
That's the definition of simple when it comes to debate, lol

You also still believe the IRB is not responsible for doing everything in it's power for the sport in Illinois despite the following taken from their own website-- my emphasis:
 "The Illinois Racing Board consists of eleven members (names and pictures) appointed to six year terms by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Senate. The Board is responsible for enforcement of the statute governing horse racing in Illinois known as the Illinois Horse Racing Act."

Here's the intent of the Illinois Racing Act-- AGAIN from the IRB website

"LEGISLATIVE INTENT
The Illinois Horse Racing Act of 1975 is intended to benefit the people of the State of Illinois by assisting economic development and promoting Illinois tourism.
The General Assembly finds and declares it to be the public policy of the State of Illinois to:

    Support and enhance Illinois' horse racing industry, which is a significant component within the agribusiness industry;
    Ensure that Illinois' horse racing industry remains competitive with neighboring states;
    Stimulate growth within Illinois' horse racing industry, thereby encouraging new investment and development to produce additional tax revenues and to create additional jobs;
    Promote the further growth of tourism;
    Encourage the breeding of thoroughbred and standardbred horses in Illinois; and
    Ensure that public confidence and trust in the credibility and integrity of racing operations and the regulatory process is maintained."

Not communicating the impending shutdown of ADW-- which the are publicly against-- is a direct conflict with their whole purpose for being. There really is no grey area. Again, if you argue that ADW is bad for Illinois Horseracing, that would be a different matter altogether, but that is not what the IRB has done at any point. They just incompetently sat by and allowed this to happen without alerting the public.

So yes, once again, it is remarkably simple to prove you wrong, a position that I assume many people that get into arguments with you would agree with. Have at it. Misquote me or cut one sentence out out of context or any of your other sad attempts to strengthen your position. The reality remains to anyone that prefers facts in their arguments, that you have none to support your positions, and it's therefore impossible for reasonable people to take you seriously. Which must drive you crazy but should be something you are quite used to.
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« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2013, 04:03:54 PM »

If Gov. Quinn is actually going to support gaming expansion including slots at tracks, I suspect they will focus on that and wrap in the adw.  IF it happens this time around, it is worth the inconvenience.  I would like to see a bill the governor signs on day ONE.
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« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2013, 06:22:20 PM »

Well I'm back to see if ANYONE on here knew anything about why the 2 bills are hung up in the rules committee when the d-bag Governor is calling for Gambling Expansion. Not surprisingly, no one here has a clue.

I'll wager that you don't, either. Right?

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A few more facts for you-- I've never been here before this original thread. I'm sure the administrators can confirm that.

Yeah sure, whatever. Roll Eyes

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The fact that someone else would find it easy to prove you wrong doesn't surprise me since you still believe you are correct in this matter, even though you still never provided a SINGLE link to news about this prior to Jan 1st from a site OTHER than this obscure forum or the Bloodlhorse.

The Bloodhorse news link was there. Anyone who read this forum on a regular basis knew about it. The IRB got the news out, so cry us a river about dim bulbs like you not knowing about it.

And as for the rest of your nonsense, it is NOT THE JOB OF THE IRB TO CHAMPION LEGISLATION, PERIOD. They enforce the rules. It's also not their job to get the news out to bettors - they get the news to the providers, and getting the news to customers is then up to them. If the providers failed you it is on them. So take a hike on all your BS about what the IRB should have done or not done. You are dead wrong about their responsibilities.
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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2013, 01:20:18 PM »

The sale of 100's of Illinois homes to out-of-staters have been held up due to lack of ADW capabilities.

We need to get that mis-information out there!
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« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2013, 02:35:54 PM »

The sale of 100's of Illinois homes to out-of-staters have been held up due to lack of ADW capabilities.

We need to get that mis-information out there!

Don't let gamblin' man read that, he'll go ballistic about how the IRB has failed in its assigned mission of prime economic development agency of Illinois as spelled out in the Racing Act's "further growth" clause.
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