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« on: February 21, 2013, 10:31:56 PM »

Ron Burke: I Don't Cheat
By Bill Finley

Ron Burke knows what's written on the blogs and message
boards and he knows what a lot of people are saying about
him. Anyone this good has to be a cheater.
It's an accusation that has
hovered over Burke's career,
which has been one of the most
dominant in the history of the
sport. With a massive stable, he
won 906 races last year, exactly
twice as many as his closest
competitor in the standings,
Rene Allard. With $19.69 in
earnings in 2012 his total is
$10.5 million more than runner-
up, Jimmy Takter. He's gotten off to an equally impressive
start this year, particularly at the Meadowlands, where
he went into last night's card with 31 wins. To some, those
numbers are just too good to be true.
"What it's come down to in this sport is that if you win
races everyone says you're a cheater," Burke said. "It's
gotten to the point where you have to apologize for winning
races."
Burke has grown tired of staying quiet about the behind-
his-back talk and took to Twitter last week to defend
himself. Asked to expand on his Twitter thoughts Burke had
plenty to say. He insists he runs a completely clean operation
and that his detractors refuse to acknowledge that perhaps
he works harder than some of his rivals and is, quite
simply, a better trainer than most.
"What bothers me is that with a successful driver all you
hear is what a great driver the guy is, how talented he is"
Burke said. "With trainers, at best you are hard-working; at
worst you are a cheater. In some people's minds, there's no
way that some of us trainers are better than other ones.
They think we're all equal; it's just that some of us use
drugs."
Burke said that absolutely nothing illegal is happening in
his barns.
"There are some people who say I know he drugs horses
a little bit but he doesn't do the real bad stuff," Burke said.
"That's not it. I don't drug at all. Not a little bit. No drugs,
period."
Burke welcomes any opportunity to prove that he runs a
clean stable and has no problem with Jeff Gural's controversial
efforts to
conduct his
own investigations.
"People are
saying that Jeff
Gural won't throw us out because he can't afford to fight us
in court," Burke said. "Jeff Gural could buy my entire barn if
he wanted to. Jeff Gural doesn't throw us out because he
knows we're not the boogeyman. I'd let Jeff do anything he
wants. If Jeff would want, I'll pay for his security guard to
come to my barn and sit there 24 hours a day. If you don't
have something to hide, what would be the problem with
something like that?
(continued at Harnessracingupdate.com)



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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 11:12:21 PM »

Why did his dad get tossed out?
Because he was so clean?
I have no dog in this fight, none.
I don't care what Ron Burke does, but it seems a bit disingenuous of Burke to say he never uses drugs.
I guess his horses never get sore. And he does limited vet work on his horses. Hard to believe.
And I would ask how exactly would he know about every one of his horses, given the fact that he races at about 5 different jurisdictions.
I would bet heavily that he has horses racing under his name he has never heard of or seen.
One other thing:
I am a big believer in "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 12:13:52 AM »


LANCE ARMSTRONG    carrot carrot
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2013, 12:14:36 AM »

god another thread about burke cheating  
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2013, 12:34:07 AM »

Why did his dad get tossed out?
Because he was so clean?
I have no dog in this fight, none.
I don't care what Ron Burke does, but it seems a bit disingenuous of Burke to say he never uses drugs.
I guess his horses never get sore. And he does limited vet work on his horses. Hard to believe.
And I would ask how exactly would he know about every one of his horses, given the fact that he races at about 5 different jurisdictions.
I would bet heavily that he has horses racing under his name he has never heard of or seen.
One other thing:
I am a big believer in "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

A couple of Lidocaine positives. Does that make him a cheat?  LMAO.

Name one top trainer except Pena who hasn't had a positive for a class II drug in their career.

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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2013, 12:56:36 AM »

And Ron spoke all these words, saying,

I am the Super Trainer, who fills the box with my plentiful stock, and have lots of time for twitter while working hard.


THE BURKE COMMANDMENTS

1.   THOU SHALL NOT HOLD ANY TRAINER HIGHER THEN ME.

2.   THOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP OR ACKNOWLEDGE ANY OTHER TRAINER.

3.   THOU SHALL NOT TAKE THE NAME RON BURKE IN VAIN.

4.   REMEMBER THE SABBATH IS EVERYDAY I RACE, STAY WORTHY.

5.   THOU SHALL FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THY PARENTS, HONOR THEM BY CONTINUING THERE LIFE WORKS AND MISSIONS.

6.   THOU SHALL NOT TALK ABOUT RON BURKE ON HARNESS RACING MESSAGE BLOGS.

7.   THOU SHALL NOT HAVE TIME FOR RELATIONSHIPS, WE WORK TOO HARD TO WASTE OF TIME PROLIFERATING. 

8.   THOU SHALL ALLOW ME TO STEAL FROM ALL OTHER HORSEMEN, WITHOUT ME THOU CANNOT RACE.

9.   THOU SHALL NOT ALLOW ME TO TAKE THE FALL, ALL EMPLOYEES OF ME SHALL BE PREPARED TO STEP UP IF THE OFFICIALS CATCH US.

10.  THOU SHALL NOT BE JEALOUS OF ME, I AM THE SUPER TRAINER AND WORK VERY HARD.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2013, 01:15:33 AM »

Mick Burke was a chemist.... Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.  Burke gas is better than Pena.  And what do you expect him to say?  Of course he's going to say he doesn't cheat.  I agree with him that he isn't doing anything.... Now his vets on the other hand.  Good luck catching that Jeff Gural.  Ron Burke obviously isn't hands on at all his operations, so it couldn't be his superior training winning.   carrot carrot
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2013, 02:08:16 AM »

Eric Ledfraud made the same claims that he "worked harder" then other trainers too. head shake

Turns out he was A BIG FAT LIAR! sneaky doh

When Ron gets caught will he blame daddy too?  bowing Bomb
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 02:12:03 AM »

And Ron spoke all these words, saying,

I am the Super Trainer, who fills the box with my plentiful stock, and have lots of time for twitter while working hard.


THE BURKE COMMANDMENTS

1.   THOU SHALL NOT HOLD ANY TRAINER HIGHER THEN ME.

2.   THOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP OR ACKNOWLEDGE ANY OTHER TRAINER.

3.   THOU SHALL NOT TAKE THE NAME RON BURKE IN VAIN.

4.   REMEMBER THE SABBATH IS EVERYDAY I RACE, STAY WORTHY.

5.   THOU SHALL FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THY PARENTS, HONOR THEM BY CONTINUING THERE LIFE WORKS AND MISSIONS.

6.   THOU SHALL NOT TALK ABOUT RON BURKE ON HARNESS RACING MESSAGE BLOGS.

7.   THOU SHALL NOT HAVE TIME FOR RELATIONSHIPS, WE WORK TOO HARD TO WASTE OF TIME PROLIFERATING. 

8.   THOU SHALL ALLOW ME TO STEAL FROM ALL OTHER HORSEMEN, WITHOUT ME THOU CANNOT RACE.

9.   THOU SHALL NOT ALLOW ME TO TAKE THE FALL, ALL EMPLOYEES OF ME SHALL BE PREPARED TO STEP UP IF THE OFFICIALS CATCH US.

10.  THOU SHALL NOT BE JEALOUS OF ME, I AM THE SUPER TRAINER AND WORK VERY HARD.


get a life  he is what it is we love the sport but you are obessed . yesterday bet a burke horse and won lots of money tomorrow another and win lots of money dollar dollar dollar dollar dollar dollar  learne to adjust
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2013, 02:22:33 AM »


Who knew that in harness racing in 2013, the most dominant super trainer is an oats and hay guy!

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing this is a relatively clean game....if Burke is crushing everyone on horsemanship, that must mean one thing.

Performance enhancing drugs dont work.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2013, 04:14:04 AM »


get a life  he is what it is we love the sport but you are obessed . yesterday bet a burke horse and won lots of money tomorrow another and win lots of money dollar dollar dollar dollar dollar dollar  learne to adjust

Mr Clean JJ could not produce 20 names with a clean slate.

JJ was hard in my thread and yet he carries on.

He has no shame.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2013, 04:22:19 AM »

This is how it all started with Pena on the harness boards.


He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something



He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something



He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something



He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something



He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something



He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something



He is using something. I don't know what, but he is using something


I am sick of all the compulsive gamblers who lose their money in the betting ring and come on harness boards and cry like babies.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2013, 04:50:43 AM »

Who knew that in harness racing in 2013, the most dominant super trainer is an oats and hay guy!

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing this is a relatively clean game....if Burke is crushing everyone on horsemanship, that must mean one thing.

Performance enhancing drugs dont work.





Ron burke has said Gural can enter his barn at any time of the day or night....   Lets see is his horses start sliding now .......  He has had  time to clean up his barns.....I do not think he is cheating.....  He has the best driver's at the tracks piloting the best horses......that should mean he should have plenty of wins.....   who knows....he might have more wins if the others werent cheating...jus sayin..  I have said it for years....Bet Gingras at the Meds !!  Win $$$$$$   He is hands above the rest at that track !   











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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2013, 04:54:41 AM »

Who knew that in harness racing in 2013, the most dominant super trainer is an oats and hay guy!

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing this is a relatively clean game....if Burke is crushing everyone on horsemanship, that must mean one thing.

Performance enhancing drugs dont work.







Ron burke has said Gural can enter his barn at any time of the day or night....   Lets see is his horses start sliding now .......  He has had  time to clean up his barns.....I do not think he is cheating.....  He has the best driver's at the tracks piloting the best horses......that should mean he should have plenty of wins.....   who knows....he might have more wins if the others werent cheating...jus sayin..  I have said it for years....Bet Gingras at the Meds !!  Win $$$$$$   He is hands above the rest at that track !   



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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2013, 06:48:14 AM »

Looks like the ball is in Gural's court.
At least in the occasionally dimwitted light of a harness forum.
It's all up to Gural.


Well, if common sense prevails, one would think Gural has looked at this barn long ago.
This topic didn't come up yesterday.
If Burke is racing at theBigM, Gural must hink he's ok.
If not, blame Gural.

Gural seems to be able to mange the press pretty well.
If he hasn't looked into Burke, the line has been drawn.
Will Gural be showboated?
Or will he send a 24 guard?
Or does he think the operation is clean?

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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2013, 07:16:58 AM »

Looks like the ball is in Gural's court.
At least in the occasionally dimwitted light of a harness forum.
It's all up to Gural.


Well, if common sense prevails, one would think Gural has looked at this barn long ago.
This topic didn't come up yesterday.
If Burke is racing at theBigM, Gural must hink he's ok.
If not, blame Gural.

Gural seems to be able to mange the press pretty well.
If he hasn't looked into Burke, the line has been drawn.
Will Gural be showboated?
Or will he send a 24 guard?
Or does he think the operation is clean?



Mr Burton. i am just cruious.

Do you know who trains Jeff Gural's own horses?
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2013, 07:20:43 AM »

Mr Burton. i am just cruious.

Do you know who trains Jeff Gural's own horses?

Several guys, snittiker, j.miller,  howie okusko why do you care?
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2013, 07:34:05 AM »

Several gu


ys, snittiker, j.miller,  howie okusko why do you care?


U no EVERYTHING,,,


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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2013, 07:38:13 AM »


get a life  he is what it is we love the sport but you are obessed . yesterday bet a burke horse and won lots of money tomorrow another and win lots of money dollar dollar dollar dollar dollar dollar  learne to adjust

I'm with you Sam. I played Burkes horse in the 7th at Meadowlands and hit a pick 4 that paid $500 more than the pick3 with all of the carryover money.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2013, 07:44:12 AM »

I'm with you Sam. I played Burkes horse in the 7th at Meadowlands and hit a pick 4 that paid $500 more than the pick3 with all of the carryover money.

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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2013, 07:48:23 AM »


U no EVERYTHING,,,


WHATS 34567782times 125436,,,,,,,don't use a calculator,,,,,EITHER laughing guy

I need to not be driving and doing math.   Lol.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2013, 07:54:35 AM »

Who knew that in harness racing in 2013, the most dominant super trainer is an oats and hay guy!

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing this is a relatively clean game....if Burke is crushing everyone on horsemanship, that must mean one thing.

Performance enhancing drugs dont work.





Ron burke has said Gural can enter his barn at any time of the day or night....   Lets see is his horses start sliding now .......  He has had  time to clean up his barns.....I do not think he is cheating.....  He has the best driver's at the tracks piloting the best horses......that should mean he should have plenty of wins.....   who knows....he might have more wins if the others werent cheating...jus sayin..  I have said it for years....Bet Gingras at the Meds !!  Win $$$$$$   He is hands above the rest at that track !   











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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2013, 08:02:24 AM »

When I was in the business I had a trainer that didn't use anything at all and our record for 4 steeds for the year was 8 for 121. After I got rid of him and got a REAL trainer my 3 steeds were 26 for 88, one mare went to the breeding shed. Hay and Oats don't work that well anymore.
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2013, 08:14:08 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2013, 08:14:46 AM »

When I was in the business I had a trainer that didn't use anything at all and our record for 4 steeds for the year was 8 for 121. After I got rid of him and got a REAL trainer my 3 steeds were 26 for 88, one mare went to the breeding shed. Hay and Oats don't work that well anymore.

Are you saying that the REAL trainer you hired was giving magic potions to your horses?
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