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« on: February 20, 2013, 01:04:01 PM » |
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Warrawee Needy is in to qualify for Mark Ford tomorrow at M1. Mark MacDonald drives. The last time we saw Needy he finished second as the 3/5 favorite from the rail in the 300K OSS Super Final at Mohawk. Michaels Power, who went a little sour down the stretch, won at 5/1.
Needy was expected to be a top colt last season but he was a big disappointment. He won four times and earned just under 300K. He still hasn’t won a single open stakes race.
Last year JJ—the real JJ—qualified him in :49.2 in early May at Mohawk. It was the fastest qualifier ever in Canada. The year before, in Needy’s first lifetime start, JJ won with him in :53.1, last quarter in 25.2, when he didn’t have to go nearly that fast. Maybe MacDonald will show a little early season restraint.
Last year JJ did quite a bit of early talking about how he had the best colt in the division, but after that fast second in his Cup elimination there wasn’t much to brag about, unless you value winning fast miles against preferred pacers. Let’s hope he becomes a force in a thin FFA division.
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 01:07:33 PM » |
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Warrawee Needy is in to qualify for Mark Ford tomorrow at M1. Mark MacDonald drives. The last time we saw Needy he finished second as the 3/5 favorite from the rail in the 300K OSS Super Final at Mohawk. Michaels Power, who went a little sour down the stretch, won at 5/1.
Needy was expected to be a top colt last season but he was a big disappointment. He won four times and earned just under 300K. He still hasn’t won a single open stakes race.
Last year JJ—the real JJ—qualified him in :49.2 in early May at Mohawk. It was the fastest qualifier ever in Canada. The year before, in Needy’s first lifetime start, JJ won with him in :53.1, last quarter in 25.2, when he didn’t have to go nearly that fast. Maybe MacDonald will show a little early season restraint.
Last year JJ did quite a bit of early talking about how he had the best colt in the division, but after that fast second in his Cup elimination there wasn’t much to brag about, unless you value winning fast miles against preferred pacers. Let’s hope he becomes a force in a thin FFA division.
I never liked this horse after those torrid miles early and the Grand River fiasco. Don't put words in my mouth. I actually would be surprised if this horse is able to step up @ 4. I think they wrecked him and I will be betting against until he shows me otherwise. |
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 01:14:45 PM » |
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I never liked this horse after those torrid miles early and the Grand River fiasco. Don't put words in my mouth.
I actually would be surprised if this horse is able to step up @ 4. I think they wrecked him and I will be betting against until he shows me otherwise.
The JJ who said he was the best colt in the division was Jody Jamieson, not you, fool. As I recall, you said he couldn't beat 4K claimers. Didn't you make that claim last season? Yes, now it all comes back to me. It was you. He did win in :48.4 at Mohawk after you said that. Not bad for a four claimer. |
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 01:35:08 PM » |
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The JJ who said he was the best colt in the division was Jody Jamieson, not you, fool.
As I recall, you said he couldn't beat 4K claimers. Didn't you make that claim last season? Yes, now it all comes back to me. It was you.
He did win in :48.4 at Mohawk after you said that. Not bad for a four claimer.
Jj good people. 4k claimer, yes exaggerated to make the point he was cooked. We agree that they went to fast and talked to much right? |
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 01:42:02 PM » |
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Jj good people.
4k claimer, yes exaggerated to make the point he was cooked.
We agree that they went to fast and talked to much right?
Cooked horses don't go in 48.4. Wrong again. You have a lot to learn about harness racing. |
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 01:47:19 PM » |
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The JJ who said he was the best colt in the division was Jody Jamieson, not you, fool.
As I recall, you said he couldn't beat 4K claimers. Didn't you make that claim last season? Yes, now it all comes back to me. It was you.
He did win in :48.4 at Mohawk after you said that. Not bad for a four claimer.
I remember that. We knew nothing about horses etc; blah, blah ,blah.. Then the horse went out and set a new life mark two weeks in a row. Looking forward to him getting back on the track. Thanks for keeping us posted SR! |
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 01:55:19 PM » |
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Cooked horses don't go in 48.4.
Wrong again.
You have a lot to learn about harness racing.
TIME MEANS JACK IN THIS SPORT. |
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MR.DALRAE
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2013, 03:30:49 PM » |
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WIL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW HE COMES BACK
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2013, 04:21:30 PM » |
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Does anyone know how much he sold for ?
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2013, 04:58:17 PM » |
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Dn't think he did. Ford said some weeks ago that Carl Jamieson might give him the horse to train.
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2013, 05:04:29 PM » |
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This is the best thing that ever happened to Needy.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2013, 05:11:35 PM » |
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Dn't think he did. Ford said some weeks ago that Carl Jamieson might give him the horse to train.
Thanks. I don't think the horse will reach its peak with Mark Ford training and Mark MacDonald driving. |
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2013, 05:23:34 PM » |
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Jamieson has been a disaster with this horse. Last year he won three conditioned races and one Gold Final that Michaels Power skipped. The change can only help.
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MR.DALRAE
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 06:40:20 PM » |
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FORD IS NO BARGAIN
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2013, 08:06:11 PM » |
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Nor is Dooby, if he comes back. He is traditionally Ford's driver of choice. Is he really going to improve on Jamieson, or will Jamieson come down to NJ to drive the horse in overnights?
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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MR.DALRAE
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 08:14:26 PM » |
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DONT THINK JJ WILL BE COMING SOUTH
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 08:27:15 PM » |
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I don't either.
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2013, 09:29:18 PM » |
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DONT THINK JJ WILL BE COMING SOUTH
New Yorkers are tough . |
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2013, 08:07:33 AM » |
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Not sure how much giving him to a 6% trainer is going to help him
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2013, 09:07:09 AM » |
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I tend to agree. Ford has done well with Silent Swing, but he hasn't had too many other like that of late. Jamieson raced the horse hard, but, hey, IT'S JAMIESON, it's take-no-prisoners from the git-go. Why would Ford be an improvement?
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2013, 09:21:37 AM » |
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For one thing, there’s a basic geographical advantage to Needy being with Ford. None of Needy’s 28 lifetime starts have been made outside of Canada. Right now the Northeast presents many more lucrative opportunities for an aged pacer than Ontario does.
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2013, 09:43:41 AM » |
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When Carl Jamieson took Needy on the trip from hell in the Battle of Waterloo at Grand River in August 2011 some of the best drivers in Canada were on the grounds for the Battle of Belles and the rest of that high-end program. Several of them had no drive in Needy’s race but Carl chose Carl to replace Jody. I don’t think he’s the type to sift through the roster of available trainers and choose one purely on the basis of performance. The selection process is more quirky than that.
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2013, 09:47:02 AM » |
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For one thing, there’s a basic geographical advantage to Needy being with Ford. None of Needy’s 28 lifetime starts have been made outside of Canada. Right now the Northeast presents many more lucrative opportunities for an aged pacer than Ontario does.
But unless you're the owner, what would this matter to you? Upfront question: do you actually bet the ponies? |
"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2013, 11:04:05 AM » |
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But unless you're the owner, what would this matter to you?
Upfront question: do you actually bet the ponies?
What would it matter to anyone who posts here where how or when a given horse races? That’s kinda what we do on a board like this. I bet these races but I don’t generally post from that perspective because I don’t see where it would be of interest to anyone. What’s your problem? |
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2013, 11:52:21 AM » |
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What would it matter to anyone who posts here where how or when a given horse races? That’s kinda what we do on a board like this.
I bet these races but I don’t generally post from that perspective because I don’t see where it would be of interest to anyone.
What’s your problem?
Your perspective is unique.  Your personality is poor.  I'd be interested to hear about your betting. I love to talk gambling. Are you a vertical player or horizontal player? Anything else you consider relevant would be appreciated. |
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2013, 12:25:50 PM » |
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What JJ said.
If you're not the owner, who cares where the horse races... unless he's off to Helsinki or some such place, you can bet and watch him at just about any track. If he's going to be campaigned somewhat less rigorously by Ford, what would it matter to the player, unless one autotosses Ford horses, which is probably not a good idea anyway.
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2013, 12:26:37 PM » |
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Your perspective is unique. Your personality is poor. I'd be interested to hear about your betting. I love to talk gambling. Are you a vertical player or horizontal player? Anything else you consider relevant would be appreciated. Engaging in a dialogue with an imbecile like you, on any topic, isn’t my idea of a good time. |
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 12:28:17 PM » |
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Engaging in a dialogue with an imbecile like you, on any topic, isn’t my idea of a good time.
Want me to list what they call you? You might cry. |
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 01:21:39 PM » |
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Engaging in a dialogue with an imbecile like you, on any topic, isn’t my idea of a good time.
Put him on ignore Slim Russ. BTE, Slim Russ, your info is much appreciated. Your personality, kind and gracious. Glad you're posting here. As for Warrawee Needy, I'm hoping to see this horse do well. A $4k claimer he ain't. |
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2013, 01:22:54 PM » |
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Put him on ignore Slim Russ.
BTE, Slim Russ, your info is much appreciated.
Your personality, kind and gracious.
Glad you're posting here.
IM BEGGING. |
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 01:34:30 PM » |
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IM BEGGING.
That really hurts, JJ. I thought we were close. I’ve always treated you with the utmost respect. I’ve always had your back. |
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 01:37:22 PM » |
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That really hurts, JJ.
I thought we were close.
I’ve always treated you with the utmost respect.
I’ve always had your back.
That's the truth from my side. You went bad. CharleyBarn is better then you. |
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 01:52:33 PM » |
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That's the truth from my side.
You went bad. CharleyBarn is better then you.
I have no idea who CharleyBarn is, but if you say so it must be true. I was just about to inquire about joining your little club, but then you hit me with this ignore business. Now, I don’t know where to turn. Your fellow members all like me, don't they? Do you have a 12 step rehabilitation program for posters? Or, am I beyond redemption? |
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 02:26:03 PM » |
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I have no idea who CharleyBarn is, but if you say so it must be true.
I was just about to inquire about joining your little club, but then you hit me with this ignore business. Now, I don’t know where to turn. Your fellow members all like me, don't they?
Do you have a 12 step rehabilitation program for posters? Or, am I beyond redemption?
What club? Who's in it? Never had issue with you. It was you who attacked and provoked. Are you over your temper tantrum? |
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Slim Russ
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2013, 02:58:47 PM » |
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Warrawee Needy won his qualifier by nine lengths in :53.1, home in :26.4.
Anndrovette was second in her Qualifier--:57.1.
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Harness Museum
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2013, 03:01:12 PM » |
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Warrawee Needy won his qualifier by nine lengths in :53.1, home in :26.4.
Anndrovette was second in her Qualifier--:57.1.
Thanks! Guess I should not have read it earlier under the Big M qualifiers or watched it for that matter?  |
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Pius soho
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 03:04:54 PM » |
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Pius soho
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2013, 03:06:50 PM » |
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Hope you guys patch things up...like both of yaz.......not the Polident guy
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2013, 03:11:14 PM » |
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Hope you guys patch things up...like both of yaz.......not the Polident guy
I sent olive branch. |
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2013, 04:27:01 PM » |
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Warrawee Needy won his qualifier by nine lengths in :53.1, home in :26.4.
Anndrovette was second in her Qualifier--:57.1.
Thanks SR! Wonder if they'll qualify him one more time? |
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Hawk
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2013, 04:39:37 PM » |
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No more quallies & Jody may be down there to drive next week.
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Steve G
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2013, 05:16:57 PM » |
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Engaging in a dialogue with an imbecile like you, on any topic, isn’t my idea of a good time.
 thank goodness for normal people |
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2013, 05:31:55 PM » |
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thank goodness for normal people Normal people who talk harness racing. Can you beat that? At a harness forum. |
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« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2013, 05:43:53 PM » |
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Normal people who talk harness racing.
Can you beat that?
At a harness forum.
unfortunately there are some who think that if you dont agree with them you must be an idiot. |
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2013, 09:46:55 AM » |
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I have no idea if you agree with me or not on anything under the sun, but the tenor of your posts pretty well enables me to infer conclusively that you're quite the simpleton, to put it mildly.
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2013, 09:56:31 AM » |
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The average IQ in the US is now estimated at 98: http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htmI'll take the above-normals, thank you. |
"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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Juicejunkies
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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2013, 12:11:13 PM » |
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Are the online iq tests legit? |
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Wink Martingale
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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2013, 12:19:52 PM » |
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Nope.
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"Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world."
--Winston Churchill
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