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Author Topic: TVG clowns have no "buddy" to save them  (Read 3009 times)
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« on: February 19, 2013, 07:49:37 PM »

With Allevato(their buddy) gone the daytime clowns(schrupp, carothers, bray, loduca) will not be saved.  Betfair wants to put their own mark on tvg and they see they have a bad reputation and want to regain partners.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 07:54:01 PM »

Bring back Priscilla Hojiwala
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 08:02:17 PM »

I dont watch tvg when schrupp and carothers are on air anymore.  Carothers isnt a clown hes just not a good horseplayer/handicapper.  Schrupp is a clown and an a** licker.  He has had many negative things to say on air about good people in racing.  He dogged santa anita out constantly and wouldn't say their name (so childish) like a kiss a**.  That made him look more stupid to his betfair superiors.  Now that they show SA he licks their a**.  He is the biggest phony of them all.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 08:12:09 PM »

Ive said this recently and will repeat.   Betfair may change the name to Betfair since TVG makes no sense and Betfair is established worldwide.  Before exchange wagering they want their people on air and they need bettors with big $ for the exchange.  They dont want people exchanging $40.  The first step is to be taken seriously and that means DOWN WITH THE CLOWNS (Trademarked).
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 08:17:46 PM »

TVG needs more Frank Mirahmadi!
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 10:28:56 PM »

There was a funny line in the comments on drf.  Dont worry about tony.  He'll be fine because he can play todd schrupps picks.   He forgot about carothers picks.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 11:01:02 PM »


 Another takeover resulting in loss of American jobs and big shipments of Greenbacks overseas.
 
 Electronics , Budwieser, and now betting profits all shipped out and workers sidelined.

 What goes next ?
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2013, 12:36:35 AM »

I dont watch tvg when schrupp and carothers are on air anymore.  Carothers isnt a clown hes just not a good horseplayer/handicapper.  Schrupp is a clown and an a** licker.  He has had many negative things to say on air about good people in racing.  He dogged santa anita out constantly and wouldn't say their name (so childish) like a kiss a**.  That made him look more stupid to his betfair superiors.  Now that they show SA he licks their a**.  He is the biggest phony of them all.

Schrupp is a Horrendous Capper. Matt Carothers isn't horrible but he tends to play lone speed all the time in every race. His ROI on the show last season was God Awful. Matt is somewhat colorful but the rest of them are bad, bad , bad. Who is this Gino kid? I guess he knows a little about QH racing and at some of the cheap tracks but he's just boring. I love HRTV 10 X's better. They have more knowledgeable people.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2013, 09:00:40 AM »


 What goes next ?

Hawthorne and Fairmount?
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2013, 11:49:05 AM »

"Available in approximately 36 million homes."
Those are homes that could get it IF they paid for it. I can't believe they have that many homes.

TVG, without any good tracks, just has no relevance at this time of year. When they do have tracks, their on-air people are so bad, they have no relevance then either.

It might be time to enter a plea for HRTV to the suits at DirecTV.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2013, 12:02:51 PM »

I turned it on Monday right before AQU race 1.
As the #2 was loading Carrothers said " we haven't talked about this horse yet" and went on to say a couple of things.
That horse was 2/1 in a short field,not 60/1 in a full field.
How can you not talk about the 2/1?
 Good,bad,like,not-liked,whatever the 2/1 in a race merits discussion if you are supposed to be a racing channel.
Aqueduct was the only track they were covering at that time. No other tracks were on the graphics at the bottom of the screen.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2013, 12:15:27 PM »

How will Todd pay for his eyebrow grooming?Maybe they can get Andy Serling to come and talk about a jocks terrible ride which always is interesting coming from people who have never been on a racehorse.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2013, 12:24:04 PM »

Nmslim,

Serling seems to be critical about pretty much everything.  Not sure if that's a new york thing or just a dry sense of humor.  Adds nothing to Race Day America when they have him on.

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 05:02:16 PM »

"Available in approximately 36 million homes."
Those are homes that could get it IF they paid for it. I can't believe they have that many homes.

I think it comes without extra charge to Dish subscribers, and for Comcast comes along with their digital sports tier. So it's not hard to believe it is in those homes. Hard to believe that many are watching it.

On a more general note, I always get a kick out of all the TVG bashing, esp. coming from those who claims it's got nothing worth watching. So why are you watching it? If you don't like what they're saying, why don't you turn down the sound?

I swear horse players just enjoy being miserable, and the jocks/trainers/TV commentators they're constantly bashing are therapy, hate objects on which to transfer the blame, hate, and misery for losing bets.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2013, 05:33:01 PM »

Everything is part of the 19.99 package or higher on DISH.   RTN (the same feed at arlington otbs) is on DISH.  That costs $50 a month.  DISH is great.  Get the most channels for the cheapest price.  Like the commercial says,  "Why pay more for tv?"

Ive had tvg &  hrtv since the beginning.  There is a reason there are 150 complaints on drf artcle.  A handful were deleted.

The best idea was a red zone channel esque strategy where the most races possible are shown.
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 07:56:40 PM »

How will Todd pay for his eyebrow grooming?Maybe they can get Andy Serling to come and talk about a jocks terrible ride which always is interesting coming from people who have never been on a racehorse.

Yeah, you really need to ride horses to identify a lousy ride. That makes a LOT of sense.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 11:14:42 PM »

Tony Allevato, one of the most senior members of the TVG management team, was dismissed Feb. 19, according to a source familiar with the company, as part of a restructuring plan.

Allevato, the executive vice president for television at the horse racing television and wagering entity, had been with TVG since it was started in 1999. He previously served as director of television production at Hollywood Park.


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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2013, 12:30:19 AM »

There was a tweet that so far with 180 not including deletions, this is 2nd most commented topic in drf.com history.  Not sure if accurate?  The point is nationwide, not just this board, this is a passionate subject.   179 of those comments are negative towards tvg.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2013, 01:38:38 AM »

There was a tweet that so far with 180 not including deletions, this is 2nd most commented topic in drf.com history.  Not sure if accurate?  The point is nationwide, not just this board, this is a passionate subject.   179 of those comments are negative towards tvg.

Probably 165 of them saying TVG has nothing worth watching, and they can't stand listening to the on air talent.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2013, 11:44:38 AM »

Probably 165 of them saying TVG has nothing worth watching, and they can't stand listening to the on air talent.

You keep repeating the same thing.  So the publics comments are not worthy?  Do you include yourself in that?
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2013, 12:51:42 PM »

Yeah, you really need to ride horses to identify a lousy ride. That makes a LOT of sense.
My point is there are so many people that pick the wrong horse and instead of chalking up to their own wrong choice,they blame the jockey, the track bias, the weather,the trainer or anything but themselves.There are both winners and also-rans,if you have a loser accept it and move on.That is why it is called gambling.The thing about Serling is he always sounds like he is going to break out into a loud WAAAHHHH!!!
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2013, 12:56:37 PM »

My point is there are so many people that pick the wrong horse and instead of chalking up to their own wrong choice,they blame the jockey, the track bias, the weather,the trainer or anything but themselves.There are both winners and also-rans,if you have a loser accept it and move on.That is why it is called gambling.The thing about Serling is he always sounds like he is going to break out into a loud WAAAHHHH!!!

lol..you do know that you are talking to Andy, don't you?
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2013, 01:58:31 PM »

My point is there are so many people that pick the wrong horse and instead of chalking up to their own wrong choice,they blame the jockey, the track bias, the weather,the trainer or anything but themselves.There are both winners and also-rans,if you have a loser accept it and move on.That is why it is called gambling.The thing about Serling is he always sounds like he is going to break out into a loud WAAAHHHH!!!

No, I'm actually explaining why races are being run as they are. The vast majority of time I am talking about horses I didn't bet, and quite frequently, races I didn't bet.
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2013, 03:14:48 PM »

With Allevato(their buddy) gone the daytime clowns(schrupp, carothers, bray, loduca) will not be saved.  Betfair wants to put their own mark on tvg and they see they have a bad reputation and want to regain partners.

How do you know for a fact Allevato was the only thing between the on-air talent and a pink slip?
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2013, 04:31:01 PM »

Andy Serling is one of the few people in racing I follow on twitter.  Imo he is no way like the tvg clowns.  I find his segments on hrtv very informative.  Sometimes they are in a rush and he doesn't have enough time to elaborate.
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2013, 04:45:57 PM »

HRTV isnt perfect.  The segment with Mr. Benes had some awkward moments.  Peter Lurie asked Mr. Benes something like are you now going to support retired racehorses.  Because the guy who won a bigger purse last year from that tournament gave a rambling speech at the eclipse awards. That was his first question.  I thought that was ridiculous.  Mr. Benes seemed to have the same thought.  He seemed like he wanted to say let that bozo do what he wants, I have two daughters and i'm going to do what I want with my winnings.

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2013, 05:13:14 PM »

i find the hrtv talent to be very difficult to listen too..and more importantly to look at.

the woman with the black hair that took the saturday and sunday morning time slots to go over the days racing in the coffee talk segments, reminds me of the wicked witch from the wizard of oz. she is horrendous to look at , and even worse to listen to, as she hacks through her 2 pack a day voice box.. she probably smells as bad as she looks.
 i do not really like the over played english accents, you been here for years...to continue with that accent is just phony.
then there is th elittle jewish guy, who for some reason doesn't realize he has a bunch of that white crap around his mouth...disgusting..you would tink the producer would alert him to clean off his face.

i like tvg.. i have no problem with thier sturday morning crew, at times they are very funny

i think most complain becasue they don't like all the fees they have to pay



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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 05:29:38 PM »

i think most complain becasue they don't like all the fees they have to pay

Most of the guys who do the loudest complaining don't even wager with TVG ... they're not even customers. Many of them claim there's nothing worth watching but they watch anyhow. The ones who do watch whine about the on-air talent, who they could easily turn down. Or they whine about the wagers the hosts put together that the complainers say only stupid people would play, as if they're some kind of Good Samaritans looking out for all those unsuspecting (and undocumented) horse players out there, the poor guys they believe are stupider than themselves.

IMHO it's just guys who like to complain, in that standard horse player way, either working out their anger issues by dumping on someone, or trying to show the world how friggin' smart they are by pointing out the supposed shortcomings of other guys who actually got a job in the industry (while tragically and totally unfairly, the genius of the oh so much wiser complainer isn't properly recognized).
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 05:51:29 PM »

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/racing/2013/02/21/sutherland-joins-tvg-big-cap-crew-in-race-that-includes-her-former-mount-game-on-dude/
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2013, 05:52:36 PM »

IMHO it's just guys who like to complain, in that standard horse player way, either working out their anger issues by dumping on someone, or trying to show the world how friggin' smart they are by pointing out the supposed shortcomings of other guys who actually got a job in the industry (while tragically and totally unfairly, the genius of the oh so much wiser complainer isn't properly recognized).

I think it's a combination of what you stated above and also unrealistic expectations. They expect hosts to be as entertaining as David Letterman and also give out winning picks at 70+%.  You can only find that combination on this forum.
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 06:48:14 PM »

It's common business sense that they can't keep talent with the lack of tracks.  They'll do what happens in the real world.  Hire a couple new people cheap and the rest will be freelance.
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 06:50:55 PM »

TVG gets more criticism because they give out numerous losing tickets that can be documented.  HRTV gives out spot plays.
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 09:36:08 PM »

Looks like Chantel Sutherland will join TVG.
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 09:53:44 PM »

Most of the 1000 complaints are regarding the daytime goofballs.  Their night coverage is ok for the lack of tracks.
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2013, 09:59:01 PM »

I think it's a combination of what you stated above and also unrealistic expectations. They expect hosts to be as entertaining as David Letterman and also give out winning picks at 70+%.  You can only find that combination on this forum.

Minus the 70+%
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2013, 09:59:39 PM »

TVG gets more criticism because they give out numerous losing tickets that can be documented.  HRTV gives out spot plays.

HRTV talks about every horse in a race and then crows when one wins.
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 10:23:43 PM »

Looks like Chantel Sutherland will join TVG.

why ??

oh oh i know..

since we all have have seen her naked in her "on horse" photo shoot,
it just might be fun, and or pleasureable to watch her waddle her tight ass around thehalls of the bet fare offices...

nooooo!!!

thats not it..

its becasue she is a great hall o fame jockey..

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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2013, 01:04:02 AM »

why ??

oh oh i know..

since we all have have seen her naked in her "on horse" photo shoot,
it just might be fun, and or pleasureable to watch her waddle her tight ass around thehalls of the bet fare offices...

nooooo!!!

thats not it..

its becasue she is a great hall o fame jockey..

Because the same middle-aged horse players that made her photo shoot a big success would tune in to see her?
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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2013, 11:51:52 AM »

lol..you do know that you are talking to Andy, don't you?
So what if I am.He is just an ordinary person.This is America.He and I both are entitled to our opinions.He was entitled to his snarky reply about making a LOT of sense.If you are going to be on air talent and especially are in the opinion business you have to learn to put up with criticism.I do not expect him or want him to defend himself to me,I just stated my opinion.
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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2013, 11:58:23 AM »

No, I'm actually explaining why races are being run as they are. The vast majority of time I am talking about horses I didn't bet, and quite frequently, races I didn't bet.
As I responded to an earlier post,you are entitled to your opinion as we all are.People can choose to listen to you or not.It is up to each person to make that determination.Just because I choose to not listen doesn't diminish what you say or do,even if I have an opinion that does not gibe with yours.You do not have to explain yourself to me or anyone else.Just keep doing your best,that is all we can ask of anyone in their work.
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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2013, 12:57:37 PM »

As I responded to an earlier post,you are entitled to your opinion as we all are.People can choose to listen to you or not.It is up to each person to make that determination.Just because I choose to not listen doesn't diminish what you say or do,even if I have an opinion that does not gibe with yours.You do not have to explain yourself to me or anyone else.Just keep doing your best,that is all we can ask of anyone in their work.

I'm curious, what is your experience as a Simulcast host? Since you seem to think one needs to ride horses to comment on jockeys, I assume you hold yourself to the same standard, and have also performed all the jobs that you choose to criticize.
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« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2013, 01:11:28 PM »

I'm curious, what is your experience as a Simulcast host? Since you seem to think one needs to ride horses to comment on jockeys, I assume you hold yourself to the same standard, and have also performed all the jobs that you choose to criticize.
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Well,you got me there.I have never been talent in television even though I have worked in TV behind the camera.I have ridden horses in steeplechase and point to point races and can appreciate the volatile nature of the races as they set up.As for presence on TV I have no idea of your breadth of experience and quite frankly do not care.I apply the same standard to you and the other talking heads(except for Maggie) that Kinky Friedman does to listening to President Obama.He says he listens for a couple of minutes,and if it is not evident that he is quitting,he turns it off.
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« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2013, 03:48:03 PM »

The article states that she is joining them for the March 2nd program.  It doesn't state that
she is going to be a regular host.  It would be nice to bring some new views on the set.
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« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2013, 04:36:08 PM »

I think it comes without extra charge to Dish subscribers, and for Comcast comes along with their digital sports tier. So it's not hard to believe it is in those homes. Hard to believe that many are watching it.

On a more general note, I always get a kick out of all the TVG bashing, esp. coming from those who claims it's got nothing worth watching. So why are you watching it? If you don't like what they're saying, why don't you turn down the sound?

I swear horse players just enjoy being miserable, and the jocks/trainers/TV commentators they're constantly bashing are therapy, hate objects on which to transfer the blame, hate, and misery for losing bets.

It's extra $ on DirecTV too, part of a sports package that includes many, many channels of the CSN? FoxSports regional ilk.

As for TVG bashing, all they know is multi-race exotics. I've never heard one of them say "I ain't playin' this Pick 4." I would also really love to see them carry a running scoreboard of how these guys are doing on their picks and their ROI. Hank Goldberg gets humiliated on the big days with his picks.

But yeah, right, why would you complain about TVG, except for the fact they periodically have a complete dearth of good tracks (and paying for it). But that's not a factor with computer streaming. And if you're building your bets based on what they say, that's your problem. They do a decent job on Dubai World Cup day. They look like orphans on the Breeders Cup, but they should be allowed to cover it and televise it live if the industry knew what was good for it.

Even if I'm playing tracks TVG doesn't have, like GP and FG this weekend, I'll have it on with the sound low just for the atmosphere. And maybe bet a race or two of theirs.

If people need to take out their frustration or anger on jocks/trainers/TV commentators for losing bets, isn't that the BIG number one saddle cloth red flag that perhaps you should get out?

I wish they still had Frank Lyons.
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« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2013, 04:39:38 PM »

FYI, I've never placed a bet through TVG in my life.

Chantal on TVG? Now THAT's atmosphere!
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« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2013, 07:20:28 PM »

FYI, I've never placed a bet through TVG in my life.

Nor have 95% of the guys continually complaining about it, I would guess.
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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2013, 12:29:19 PM »

Is Prime the same as TVG?
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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2013, 09:04:59 PM »

Nor have 95% of the guys continually complaining about it, I would guess.
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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2013, 12:42:32 PM »

Todd Schrupp is a rumored finalist for a host of a reality show pilot.  I wish him the best.  His passion for racing and a** licking tendencies are not a good blend for TVG.  Although as a broadcaster he has mad skillzz.  In a different television field he is an A- broadcaster.  As for Carothers, he better pick some winners.  As a broadcaster hes a D-.
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« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2013, 12:05:10 PM »

Shrupp's hair was so hip Saturday, he looked like Alfalfa.

Greg Wolf was turned into a quivering blob of jelly by Chantal's overwhelming beauty. In the vein of "do girls enjoy pillow fights?" Wolf asked her if the female jockeys "stick together." She looked at him like he's nuts and said "no, we're all pretty competitive." Chantal only seemed engaged in the few moments when Wolf asked her about, you know, horse racing. She was excellent on the bit where she named the jockey even though their faces were obscured.
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Triple Crown
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2013

Breeders' Cup
Hawthorne Gold Cup
Arlington Million
Triple Crown
Illinois Derby

2012

Breeders' Cup
Hawthorne Gold Cup
Arlington Million
Triple Crown
Illinois Derby

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