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Author Topic: Obscure horse thread from the 1980s and 1990s.  (Read 2171 times)
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« on: January 23, 2013, 07:43:47 PM »

I saw a good mare named Antholena D (Jim King Jr??) mentioned in another thread and thought of some of the fine (but relatively obscure....or NOT so relatively obscure) horses from a few decades ago. You can add a name to this thread and maybe his driver, trainer or owner to help us remember.

How about:

Village Jackpot with Jack Parker, Jr?

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 07:50:51 PM »

Fox Valley Biddie and Don Freese
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 07:51:14 PM »

Big Bucks Bernie with Jack (fried) Rice.
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Living Together and Randy Jacobs
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 07:58:00 PM »

Cinammon Maze and John Eddy.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 08:06:40 PM »

Living Together and Randy Jacobs

I believe Living Together was a full sibling to HOY Staying Together.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 09:54:52 PM »

Final Note, driver,trainer, Jim Dennis out of Best of All mare Dorothy Hanover
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 10:32:50 PM »

Witsend Beret~~~Richie Lacava trotter trotter
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 08:34:27 AM »

Chief Crazy Legs-Norman Dauplaise
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 09:21:52 AM »

Chief Crazy Legs-Norman Dauplaise

Chief Crazy Legs was fifteen in 1980 so I guess he’s a little bit removed from this window but he is a great example of the Metropolitan New York horses that were pre Meadowlands and better known for their toughness than their fast marks. He won a preliminary leg of the 1970 Fall Pacing Festival at RR for Ben Webster in a shade over two minutes, which was very fast on a half late in the year. Maida Million wound up winning the final for Eddie Cobb from the eight. Public Affair, who I don’t think ever won in two minutes, was second. Horses like Shore Will, Lucky Child, Claridge and Adios Waverly made that a special time period.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 09:22:48 AM »

Barney Farhner- Bill Deters
J Country Bumpkin- Jack Parker Jr
Spilly Le Hi- Mike Rossi Jr.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 10:18:54 AM »

Lew Williams- Whata Baron
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 10:34:40 AM »

Chief Crazy Legs was fifteen in 1980 so I guess he’s a little bit removed from this window but he is a great example of the Metropolitan New York horses that were pre Meadowlands and better known for their toughness than their fast marks. He won a preliminary leg of the 1970 Fall Pacing Festival at RR for Ben Webster in a shade over two minutes, which was very fast on a half late in the year. Maida Million wound up winning the final for Eddie Cobb from the eight. Public Affair, who I don’t think ever won in two minutes, was second. Horses like Shore Will, Lucky Child, Claridge and Adios Waverly made that a special time period.
Public Affair...Loosh
Shore Will...Del Insko
Lucky Child... Eugene Mattucci
Claridge...Charlie Green
Adios Waverly...Herve Filion
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 10:37:04 AM »

Nickawampus Leroy-George Phalen

Soky's Atom (?)- Russell Rash
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 11:16:32 AM »

Nickawampus Leroy-George Phalen

Soky's Atom (?)- Russell Rash
Leroy was usually driven by Rash.
Soky's Atom...Butch Dokey
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2013, 11:44:31 AM »

Sokys Atom became one heck of a broodmare sire in New Zealand. Auckland Reactor and Royal Cee Cee are both out of Sokys Atom mares.

When he won the Haughton as a two-year-old for Archie McNeil, it was the richest race ever at Roosevelt. He paid $45.

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2013, 02:00:19 PM »

Miles End Brenda - Ben Webster
Stabilizer - Bruce Ranger
Michaels All Star - Walter Case Jr.
Royal Command C - Mark Lancaster
Umbrella Fella - Ray Remmen
League Leader - Buddy Gilmour
Danielles Romeo - Carmine Abbatiello
Wrangler - driven by many trained by many
Jim Jam Red Man - Alan Brownell
Lookout Red Clay - Frank Browne
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2013, 02:59:40 PM »

Sumter Victory……………Fred Spencer
Bellnow………………………Frank Withee
Red Ripple…………………..Jim Doherty
Last Count…………………..Bert Beckwith
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2013, 03:18:17 PM »

Fox Valley Redhot   Jim Crebs

arguably the best IL mare (both racing and breeding of my time).  Some better racing fillies/mares in the past 2 decades, but show me the production of their lines compared to FVredhot
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2013, 03:23:20 PM »

Here are some of my all time favorites

Peace Corps (John Campbell) without question the greatest mare to ever look through a bridle.

The Rest not in any particular order.

Continentalvictory (Mike LaChance&Dave Magee) Ronnie "The Guru" Gurfien or the best trotting trainer since Ben Hurr
Fan Hanover (Glen Garnsey)
Armbro Elusive (Jay Sears)
Armbro Feather (Buddy Gilmour)
Caesars Jackpot (Bill Fahy)
Shady Daisy (Doug Brown& Ron Pierce)
Miss Easy (JohnCampbell)Bruce Nickles
Extreme Velocity (John Campbell) T, Stohler
Bunny Lake (John Campbell)J. Stark Jr
Moni Maker (Wally Hennessey & Julie Krone) Jimmy Takter
Pacific (Tom Harmer) Tom Harmer
Sanabelle Island (Steve Warrington)Dan Warrington
Armbro Keepsake (John Campbell) Chuckie Sylvester
Leah Almahurst (Bill Fahy)
Cheery Hello (John Campbell)
Mystical Maddy (Michel Lachance) Brett Pelling
CR Kay Suzie (Rod Allen) Carl Allen
Anniecrombie (Dave Magee & Walter Case Jr, Tom Simmons)
Winky’s Goal (Cat Manzi)
Delinquent Account (Bill O’Donnell) had to put her up for the majic man.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2013, 04:17:45 PM »

Soky's Atom (?)- Russell Rash

Soky's Atom...Butch Dokey

Sokys Atom - Sonny Patterson

Charles Luca - Carmine
Sugar Dust - Herve
Seedling Herbert - Ben Steall for the Haughton barn (Apples Thomas)
Tremor - Carmine
Motor Mouth - Earl Cruise
Keytothecity - Norman
Momentous - Robert Rahner
Viscount Uffington - Gary Mosher
Olympic Torch - Joe Marsh, Jr.
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2013, 06:19:17 PM »

Sokys Atom - Sonny Patterson

Charles Luca - Carmine
Sugar Dust - Herve
Seedling Herbert - Ben Steall for the Haughton barn (Apples Thomas)
Tremor - Carmine
Motor Mouth - Earl Cruise
Keytothecity - Norman
Momentous - Robert Rahner
Viscount Uffington - Gary Mosher
Olympic Torch - Joe Marsh, Jr.
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2013, 06:29:19 PM »

Sirota Anderson- Norman Dauplaise
Sulkys Tiger- Carmine
We Do Romeo- Jim King Jr
Bottle Baby-Herve
Catons Tomahawk-Herve
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2013, 06:52:54 PM »

Loved Benny Steall~~ thumbs up

How tall is Ben?  He never looked like he "fit".  Knees were too bent.  Of course I said Motor Mouth & Earl Cruise was a big guy.

How about some of these, Vegas:

Sonnetson - Dokey, Henri... Trained by Tommy Foster
Pastabyrd - Loosh
Herbars Bacchus - Herve (after a line of 888888 earned a Sports Eye comment "Stayed Bacchus"
Petite Evander - Ed Dunnigan
James B - Del Insko or as Jack would say "Delinsko" all one word
Bobbo - Norman Jones - Jack's favorite
Brets Triumph - Ted Taylor
Allen J Finkelson - Buddy, who Bert Lang named after a great racing man
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2013, 07:06:54 PM »

Dolfan: I don't recall Ben Steall being very tall. Now, Austin Hope, that was a different story-how he managed to be on a bike, I will never know.

A New England shout-out to 17 YO Kim Crawford, piloting Rebel Aaron in Green Mountain FFA's against the Jimmy Doherty-driven Miami Beach, who would ship in from Foxboro, and usually get the better of the local lad. Four decades later, Kim, after a stint as Saratoga trackman, is back in the bike.

Off-topic, my Dad and I, living 11 miles from Yonkers, but preferring long-distance day trips to Green Mtn., Hinsdale, Dover, and Harrington, among others, would chuckle whenever a Delaware harness race would feature the rhythmic drivers Messrs. Pitts, Putz, Sheats, and Cropper !
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2013, 07:09:54 PM »

Miles End Brenda - Ben Webster
Stabilizer - Bruce Ranger
Michaels All Star - Walter Case Jr.
Royal Command C - Mark Lancaster
Umbrella Fella - Ray Remmen
League Leader - Buddy Gilmour
Danielles Romeo - Carmine Abbatiello
Wrangler - driven by many trained by many
Jim Jam Red Man - Alan Brownell
Lookout Red Clay - Frank Browne

LOVE LOVE LOVE the "Commander" Great memories w him.

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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2013, 07:19:31 PM »

Dolfan: I don't recall Ben Steall being very tall. Now, Austin Hope, that was a different story-how he managed to be on a bike, I will never know.

A New England shout-out to 17 YO Kim Crawford, piloting Rebel Aaron in Green Mountain FFA's against the Jimmy Doherty-driven Miami Beach, who would ship in from Foxboro, and usually get the better of the local lad. Four decades later, Kim, after a stint as Saratoga trackman, is back in the bike.

Off-topic, my Dad and I, living 11 miles from Yonkers, but preferring long-distance day trips to Green Mtn., Hinsdale, Dover, and Harrington, among others, would chuckle whenever a Delaware harness race would feature the rhythmic drivers Messrs. Pitts, Putz, Sheats, and Cropper !
Austin Hope was about 6-6~~~Gary Marangi was about 6-4
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2013, 07:33:07 PM »

How tall is Ben?  He never looked like he "fit".  Knees were too bent.  Of course I said Motor Mouth & Earl Cruise was a big guy.

How about some of these, Vegas:

Sonnetson - Dokey, Henri... Trained by Tommy Foster
Pastabyrd - Loosh
Herbars Bacchus - Herve (after a line of 888888 earned a Sports Eye comment "Stayed Bacchus"
Petite Evander - Ed Dunnigan
James B - Del Insko or as Jack would say "Delinsko" all one word
Bobbo - Norman Jones - Jack's favorite
Brets Triumph - Ted Taylor
Allen J Finkelson - Buddy, who Bert Lang named after a great racing man
Springfield Lad ~~Coco
Padway~~Mitchell
Lead Free   ""
Besta Fella  ""
Apollo Lobell ~~ Borolio
Never Wrong        "   
Kennerdell           "
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Freedom Now.....Nelson Guyette
EddyJeff....Ed Lohmeyer Jr
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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2013, 08:56:40 PM »

Anyone remember Derby's Gent who raced in Ontario and Michigan (think Shelley Goudreau may have driven him) 20-30 years ago?
Who was his nemisis who raced against him often but only beat him a couple of times ?
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2013, 09:07:45 PM »

To Ri Boy...  N Franklin Milby
Miss Conna Adios... Tom Lewis  
Black On   ...Billy Hudson
Dillrod.......Bob Cherrix
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2013, 10:12:15 PM »

Miles End Brenda - Ben Webster
Stabilizer - Bruce Ranger
Michaels All Star - Walter Case Jr.
Royal Command C - Mark Lancaster
Umbrella Fella - Ray Remmen
League Leader - Buddy Gilmour
Danielles Romeo - Carmine Abbatiello
Wrangler - driven by many trained by many
Jim Jam Red Man - Alan Brownell
Lookout Red Clay - Frank Browne
Wasn't Michaels All Star a ten claimer that went to the open after J Stark claimed him ? I thought that was kind of the horse that put him on the map, maybe i'm confused.
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2013, 10:27:09 PM »

Come On Fred (Sam Rainbow-Twigs Girl), was a fan favorite at Rosecroft and Freestate back in the day for Robert Uebel. Perkins used to scream Come On Fred as he made his move, fans loved it. Fred had a penchant for wheeling sometimes as i recall, quirky horse who loved the fans it seemed. Beat Rambling Willie once as well. Probably late 70's / early 80's.
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2013, 10:49:06 PM »

Austin Hope was about 6-6~~~Gary Marangi was about 6-4

Otho Tucker, world's tallest harness driver. The Pride of Paris, Illinois.
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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2013, 10:50:05 PM »

Here are some of my all time favorites

Peace Corps (John Campbell) without question the greatest mare to ever look through a bridle.

The Rest not in any particular order.

Continentalvictory (Mike LaChance&Dave Magee) Ronnie "The Guru" Gurfien or the best trotting trainer since Ben Hurr
Fan Hanover (Glen Garnsey)
Armbro Elusive (Jay Sears)
Armbro Feather (Buddy Gilmour)
Caesars Jackpot (Bill Fahy)
Shady Daisy (Doug Brown& Ron Pierce)
Miss Easy (JohnCampbell)Bruce Nickles
Extreme Velocity (John Campbell) T, Stohler
Bunny Lake (John Campbell)J. Stark Jr
Moni Maker (Wally Hennessey & Julie Krone) Jimmy Takter
Pacific (Tom Harmer) Tom Harmer
Sanabelle Island (Steve Warrington)Dan Warrington
Armbro Keepsake (John Campbell) Chuckie Sylvester
Leah Almahurst (Bill Fahy)
Cheery Hello (John Campbell)
Mystical Maddy (Michel Lachance) Brett Pelling
CR Kay Suzie (Rod Allen) Carl Allen
Anniecrombie (Dave Magee & Walter Case Jr, Tom Simmons)
Winky’s Goal (Cat Manzi)
Delinquent Account (Bill O’Donnell) had to put her up for the majic man.


Brooklet's Pride (Homer Hochstetler)
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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2013, 11:02:18 AM »

Derbys Gent was driven by the 17 year old John Campbell, and came down from Ontario to win two opens at Monticello, and, soon thereafter, a race at Roosevelt.
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« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2013, 11:50:15 AM »

Thanks JLB. I guess the hard drive in my head is clogged up with too much useless data and needs defragmenting! I recall Derby Gent strung together many wins back then but who was the only horse that could beat him (I think he did it a couple of times and Shelly Goudreau keeps flashing up) ?
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« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2013, 12:17:14 PM »

POTOPEIN various and sundry connections.  Got claimed a lot.

Gil Levine called him PAHT-uh-pine

Phil Georgeff puh-TOH-pee-uhn

Tony Salvaro said it right.  Loud and proud.  "Heeeere comes POT TO PEE IN!"
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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2013, 01:36:05 PM »

Otho Tucker, world's tallest harness driver. The Pride of Paris, Illinois.

Looking at the leading drivers, I guess JJ would be the tallest at 6’2”. Trond S is over six feet and Bartlett and Manzi are six, with Mark MacDonald close to that. Sears and Callahan are both listed at 5’10”.

Frank Safford was a big guy who raced at 250 pounds at one point. The champ was probably Willem Geersen who won the 1960 International with Hairos II at 260 pounds.

Eddie Cobb was 6’ and weighed about 190 and Bill Popfinger was 6’ but lighter, early in his career, anyway. He added a lot to that as he went along. Russell Rash was 5’11” and 170. Jim Doherty is 6’ tall.

Sholty was only 5’3” and raced at 108 pounds at one point. After he put on weight he was a hefty 117. 5’3” is pretty small. Sach Werner was also 5’3”.

Little guys have an edge. Herve is 5”5 and raced at 140 in his prime. Carmine: 5’6” and 145. Stanley Dancer: 5’8” and 140, Loosh: 5’6” and 135, Ben Webster: 5’8” and 140, Ted Wing and Lew Williams also 5’8” and 140, Ron Waples: 5’6” and 140

Brennan is only 5'5".
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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2013, 02:45:25 PM »

I saw a good mare named Antholena D (Jim King Jr??) mentioned in another thread and thought of some of the fine (but relatively obscure....or NOT so relatively obscure) horses from a few decades ago. You can add a name to this thread and maybe his driver, trainer or owner to help us remember.

How about:

Village Jackpot with Jack Parker, Jr?

Your turn.
I owned one of her offspring. Short Sale was his name. Was 2-1 for 100k and got hurt and that was it for him.
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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2013, 02:48:02 PM »

Come On Fred (Sam Rainbow-Twigs Girl), was a fan favorite at Rosecroft and Freestate back in the day for Robert Uebel. Perkins used to scream Come On Fred as he made his move, fans loved it. Fred had a penchant for wheeling sometimes as i recall, quirky horse who loved the fans it seemed. Beat Rambling Willie once as well. Probably late 70's / early 80's.

I remember reading something about how when the announcer yelled cmon fred, the horse would hear him and go faster! lol

Good call, come on fred was a legend around those parts.
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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2013, 02:50:42 PM »

Anyone remember a crazy speedball trotter driven by Ken Barlow named Sir Ike? He raced at Meadowlands in the 80s i believe and always had a 10 length lead at the half, he would open up 10 and hang on by 1 at the wire (or, get caught). He was a fun horse to watch.
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2013, 02:53:26 PM »

Cali Stars, Positron-Pena and El Camino Real-Kuebler  thumbs up thumbs up
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2013, 02:57:43 PM »

I owned one of her offspring. Short Sale was his name. Was 2-1 for 100k and got hurt and that was it for him.

Antholena was a BIG mare with a long gait if i remember correctly?
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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2013, 03:00:39 PM »

1978 article on Bea Farber....wonder if she's still alive?

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20071907,00.html

Farbro Wave. Not sure if Farbro Wave was associated with Bea Farber or not, but Farbro Wave (might have been associated with a New England horse stable) is a 'blast from the past' horse!
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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2013, 03:13:16 PM »

In a salute to the ABOVE post....  Proudfoot Laurie and Bea Farber
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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2013, 03:14:36 PM »

1978 article on Bea Farber....wonder if she's still alive?


Think she’s seventy-two and living in Florida. Won 1801 races and her horses earned more than $9 million.
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« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2013, 03:20:24 PM »

Think she’s seventy-two and living in Florida.

Everyone here, except for me, is 72!  That's the problem. geezer
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« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2013, 03:32:21 PM »

1978 article on Bea Farber....wonder if she's still alive?

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20071907,00.html

Farbro Wave. Not sure if Farbro Wave was associated with Bea Farber or not, but Farbro Wave (might have been associated with a New England horse stable) is a 'blast from the past' horse!

The Farrars, who were based in Wrentham, Ma, not far from Foxboro, bred and owned Farbro Wave. The Farrar brothers, Barrie and Roger, equal Far and bro, I guess.They were high profile owners.
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« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2013, 03:43:14 PM »

Wasn't Lumbering Mel a horse that also raced in Maryland ?
How about
Rookery
RB's Mischief
Mar Jim Majority- Mike Sorrentino
Breeze On By- Joe Hunterpfund jr.
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How about
Rookery
RB's Mischief


I see you had David Banks on your mind!  Rookery always looked big & clumsy.
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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2013, 11:42:19 PM »

Yes I used to love those horses.  What a shame what happened to David Banks on the track
That was terrible.  Wasn't he down as trainer on some horses after his accident ?
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2013, 12:20:33 AM »

Wasn't Lumbering Mel a horse that also raced in Maryland ?
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Mar Jim Majority- Mike Sorrentino
Breeze On By- Joe Hunterpfund jr.
Haven't heard that name in a long time, Lumbering Mel. Nice horse. Rookery was like a rock star to me when i was a kid, went to Maine and won some older FFA with some guy who drove him after David got hurt, can't pull that name. Tuckerman was a nice open trotter that raced this circuit in the 80's, nice half mile horse Kenny Mitchell drove alot.
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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2013, 01:57:32 AM »

from the 70's ...fantastic dream...scurlock
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« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2013, 02:08:59 AM »

jerry graham old stable from the 70's...rusty knight...tiff n time...smashing don...gulliver..... beer
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2013, 09:06:36 AM »

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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2013, 03:02:09 PM »

There's a Tbred at Philly Park racing now called Heather's Feather. Wasnt there a harness horse by that name in the 1980s?
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« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2013, 03:23:51 PM »

There's a Tbred at Philly Park racing now called Heather's Feather. Wasnt there a harness horse by that name in the 1980s?

Albatross filly who won the Sweetheart in 1980. Her Grandma was a sister to Tyler B, Tarport Hap, Cheery Hello and Jamuga.
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