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Author Topic: IT'S GURAL PARTY, HE CAN INVITE WHO HE WANTS  (Read 575 times)
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« on: January 18, 2013, 11:53:21 AM »

YONKERS, ROOSEVELT RACEWAY all had individual who were declared as not admitable. YONKERS has imposed this policy since the SUPREME COURT sided with GEORGE MORTON LEVY saying the track is private property, and its a business decesion as to who they let in and who is not allowed,There are a few driver at this time that are refused racing privilages at YONKERS RACEWAY, and no one is making a case for them, andto those who are new to NEW YORK racing there was a time that before a trainer was given stalls THEY HAD TO BE INTERVIEWED AND THE PAPERS ON ALL HORES WAS TO BE VIEWED BY THE RACE SECRETARY. and any horse that did not fit his/her  approval were denied stalls , and WITHOUTA STALL DESIGNATION the horse was denied racing privilages.

    If an owner trainer had juice he could take the papers to a house trainer AND MANY A TIME THIS ANIMALWHO WAS ONCE DENIED BY THE SECRETARY WAS ACCEPTED BY THE RACE SECRETARY FOR ANOTHER TRAINER ,It was insurance at that time that the race secretary have house trainers incase of bycotts and personal relationships,
    The reason that the PENA and his crew are not in this catergory is that if these big stables were not allowed to racing privilagesJOESPH A FARALDO would not be able to boast aboutthe good racing, drivers, WE at yonkers can provide,
     AN A GOOD EXAMPLE IS WHERE ARE THE FINDER OF FACTS THAT THE PRES, SAID HEWAS HAVING A PRIVATE INVESTIGATORUNCOVER AND THEN RELEASE
     
    IT' ALL POLITIC AND A GOOD OLD BOYS NETWORK .
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 12:32:24 PM »

In 1973 Levy barred Gilmour, Carmine, Webster, McNutt, Cormier and several others from training or driving at Roosevelt. They eventually got back in but two years later Gilmour, Webster and McNutt were barred again for refusing to take lie-detector tests, and Yonkers agreed to abide by those restrictions.

There’s a long tradition of personal discretion on the part of management being the final word in this sport. Nobody has an inalienable right to train and drive at a privately owned racetrack.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 01:37:13 PM »

The drivers that were mentioned in a pryor post were indicted and went on trial only to be found not guilty, alan cantor, MARVIN PROMAN admitted guilt and were denied a licsense, the rest were admitted because of the not guilty verdict,
 


         WEBSTER WAS HE INDIVIDUAL WHO TOOK HIS CASE TO THE SUPREME COURT AND LOST,THE RULING PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUSINESS DISCREATION APPLIED
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 02:07:31 PM »

Just about all of the hundreds of people paraded before Grand Juries, and in some cases indicted, got off. Forrest Gerry and Richard Perry were a couple of exceptions to that. But that doesn’t change the owner’s right to bar drivers and trainers from his track. He can keep them out because he doesn’t like their haircut. The fact that a case is thrown out or results in an innocent verdict doesn’t require the owner to allow someone privileges at his track.

It is ironic that Proman, Cantor and Bauer were crushed while many of the actual thieves wound up on their feet.

For those who might not be familiar with Proman, In 1973 the Government put the squeeze on the trainer and “convinced” him to testify before a Grand Jury about corruption at Yonkers Raceway. Proman admitted that he had hit the super for $20, 430 (10 tickets) on Jan 24, 1973 at YR, and that one night he had had delivered an envelope from Michael Sherman to the paddock; the name Del Insko was written on the envelope.

Proman relocated to California under an assumed name. They found him and hauled him back to NY where they reopened the Grand Jury. Proman now testified that everything he had said before was a lie, testimony given under duress. He had testified that he paid Dale Ross to finish out of the super on three occasions, with The Hatter, Herman Minbar and Friendly Fred. He had also made the observation that, “It’s not just Buddy Gilmour, it’s a lot of these drivers. They do everything right except in the superfecta races. In the super, they’d be in the wrong spots.”
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 02:38:28 PM »

CANTOR, PROMAN were one case LEO BAUER was another race at YONKERS where HENRI FILION took the fall,
     LEVY DECIDED THAT BECAUSE OF THE AQUITTAL THEY WERE DECLARED INNOCENT AND BEING AN ATTORNEY HIMSELF MUST HAV E THOUGHT A VOTE OF AQUITTAL MEANT THEY WERE INNOCENT AND NO NEED TO BE BARRED,
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 02:49:13 PM »

Had breakfast in the track kitchen at RR with Marvin Proman from time to time.  The funniest thing was sitting there with his owner (can't remember which one) who was explaining to us how Marvin never made a bet.

Meanwhile Marvin is sitting next to him, reading the results in the paper and pounding the table in disgust over each lost bet.

I drew blood biting on my tongue to keep from laughing in his face.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 03:02:35 PM »

Joe Faraldo is determined to ruin racing in NY
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2013, 03:04:05 PM »

Pena could be exonerated in court left and right, regardless, he’ll  never  be welcome at The Big M—not as long as Jeff Gural is in charge.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 03:26:15 PM »

Wouldn`t one think if a track banned a trainer/driver the state would be looking into why it was done.Huh If they are bad enough to get kicked out, maybe they should not be licensed..Huh  If they can`t catch them  cheating, go after them like they did Pena.. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 03:58:44 PM »

Garcia-Her​rera Ready to Get Back in Action, But Not at Meadowland​s



Gural knows he is a beard....   or he has listened to the public.....either way.....Jeff is attempting to make racing at the Meadowlands cleaner.  I would not want to race a juiced horse at the Meadowlands....I heard the Private eye is one busy guy !!!  jus sayin....    be careful .... binoculars



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Bet with Integrity .....Bet with Gural !
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 03:59:03 PM »

Wouldn`t one think if a track banned a trainer/driver the state would be looking into why it was done.Huh If they are bad enough to get kicked out, maybe they should not be licensed..Huh  If they can`t catch them  cheating, go after them like they did Pena.. 

The state needs proof.  The track does not.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 04:49:58 PM »

I'ts plain and simple if you did not want someone tresspassing on your private property does the state want interfer. this situation and many others have been going on since the WEBSTER VS LEVY was heard by the supreme court and levy won ,
     There have been a few tries at overturning this decision but to no avail.
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