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Author Topic: Illinois ADW Wagering Suspension notice  (Read 3767 times)
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2013, 05:09:55 PM »


 Ex Post Facto says you can't retroactively make something illegal.  So why should you retroactively try to make something legal.

 Why not fine all these ADW $250,000 a day for every day they operate illegally and put Multi-Millions in the Purse Account and rake off a few dollars for 50 Cent Beer on Thursday afternoons.

 It ain't legal til it's legal. ( Yogi Ybarra )
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« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2013, 05:29:43 PM »

11 BILLION to 22 BILLION is spent on welfare for illegals each year by state governments
22 BILLION is spent on food assistance programs...food stamps, free school lunches etc
2.5 BILLION is spent on Medicaid for illegals
12 BILLION is spent on primary and secondary education for illegal children
17 BILLION is spent on education for anchor babies (children of illegals)
3 MILLION a DAY is spent to encarcerate illegals
30% of all federal inmates are illegals
90 BILLION a year is spent on illegals for social and welfare services by the American Taxpayer
200 BILLION a year in suppressed American wages
As far back as 2006....45 BILLION was sent back to their countries of origin.

And produce a net positive of $150 billion a year.

But, if all your numbers are accurate, and meaningful (what the heck does "sent back to their countries" cost you? and certainly lower wages paid them is a BENEFIT to the US consumer), and not redundant (the $90 billion), then whatever is the real total, that's how much your fellow American employers who hire illegals are ripping you, the taxpayer, off each year. Illegals are like drugs - without a demand, they wouldn't be here. No jobs no illegals.

If you want rid of them so bad, press your legislators to levy big big fines against employers who hire them until it hurts so much the illegals can't work and have to self-deport  And then get ready to pay untold billions per year in higher prices for many goods and services.
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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2013, 05:59:29 PM »

11 BILLION to 22 BILLION is spent on welfare for illegals each year by state governments
22 BILLION is spent on food assistance programs...food stamps, free school lunches etc
2.5 BILLION is spent on Medicaid for illegals
12 BILLION is spent on primary and secondary education for illegal children
17 BILLION is spent on education for anchor babies (children of illegals)
3 MILLION a DAY is spent to encarcerate illegals
30% of all federal inmates are illegals
90 BILLION a year is spent on illegals for social and welfare services by the American Taxpayer
200 BILLION a year in suppressed American wages
As far back as 2006....45 BILLION was sent back to their countries of origin.

Borders are artificial barriers.
If you're so bent out of shape, go back to Poland or wherever the hell your ancestors came from.
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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2013, 06:26:02 PM »

....and meanwhile my Twinspires account is still active except for Illinois tracks.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2013, 09:36:37 AM »

....and meanwhile my Twinspires account is still active except for Illinois tracks.

TwinSpires is a many-times proved scofflaw organization.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2013, 06:38:03 PM »

So, all of those lawyers at CDI donít know a felony when they see one, or are they above the law? Obviously, CDI is thinking the penalty they will receive, if any, will be less than their ADW revenue since January 1st. They must be expecting a slap on the wrist. So far, the only ADW companies penalized are TVG and BetZotic because they have complied.  Looks like no one tells CDI and TwinSpires what to do.  Seems like they only abide by laws and use them when itís to their advantage.  Are they also in violation of the Wire Act because this is interstate, they are no longer State-licensed and are illegally operating in the State?

And, of course, itís the horse player who suffers and receives the most severe penalty with the loss of the legal use of ADW. Crazy times in Illinois.
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2013, 07:32:01 PM »

Their position is that it does not matter where the bettor is located, and that existing interstate simulcasting law gives them the right to take any wagers from any state resident as long as the state allows parimutuel wagering and the track is not in that state. I think they're still the only outfit taking wagers from Texas residents, and they're fighting it tooth and nail in court.

They've got a giant flying wedge of lawyers that stays finely honed constantly filing lawsuits against horsemen and jockeys and other racetracks and various States and so on (and most recently, anyone who dares used the term "Kentucky Derby" in anything like a party promotion), so who knows, maybe it is something they can defend in court.

And when it comes right down to it, it's obvious the State of Illinois really doesn't care, so why should we? Party on, Garth.
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