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Author Topic: Trying to understand the ABC of the Meds  (Read 998 times)
dinkadoo
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« on: January 04, 2013, 10:52:21 AM »

Looking at Friday program, I saw a total of 3 horses that have moved from the ABC class either up or down.

In race 7, two horses that won in class A-2 are back in A-2 this week yet not handicapped by post.

Just asking

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 12:29:26 PM »

Not sure about it myself but it is up to the racing secretary.
Probably be a while until we see any patterns as to the class movements.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 12:35:35 PM »

Strictly racing secretary opinion.  No more.  No less.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 02:42:19 PM »

i cant see that working long haul...it will be easier til the end of March when Chester and Pocono return....not going to be good IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 04:21:09 PM »

Yeah, it never worked in NY through the game's greatest years, right?   head shake
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 04:35:26 PM »

just found another in tonight...

Race 8 #1 Chief Karen

Last week --- A2, dead last at half, circled field and won

This Week --- A2, and draws the rail ! ? ! ?

Reason why I am asking, trainers who play the condition game will play around to get their horse into a better class or know what their horse stands for future classification......

As a bettor, if you feel that a horse winning in a class will have no bearing in either moving up in class OR not being post handicapped, that would factor into how you may handicap. But if the rules from the secretary will change from week to week like a fart in the wind --- then what can horsemen and customers depend on ?
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 04:43:27 PM »

Not all winners got moved up back in the day, and this instance, in a race segregated by sex, may simply reflect that there is (presently) not enough female horseflesh to FILL a class above A-2. Has anyone seen an FM race there of a higher class?
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 08:44:09 AM »

Yeah, it never worked in NY through the game's greatest years, right?   head shake



It isnt 1972 and there isnt 25K betting a night. Good theory though.  screwy surprised you dont want to go back to 7 out of 10 boat races a night then....I mean, thats what was happening in NY in the game's greatest years wasnt it?
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 08:59:24 AM »

This system is good for the bettors but it's horrible for the owners of the horses.  If you finish 4th, 5th or 6th range then you are going to be meddled in the same class forever and are never going to make any money.  Wait until all the tracks are open they aren't going to have any horses because no one is going to want to race there. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 09:51:53 AM »

It isnt 1972 and there isnt 25K betting a night. Good theory though.  screwy surprised you dont want to go back to 7 out of 10 boat races a night then....I mean, thats what was happening in NY in the game's greatest years wasnt it?

Uh, NO. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 10:02:53 AM »

It isnt 1972 and there isnt 25K betting a night. Good theory though.  screwy surprised you dont want to go back to 7 out of 10 boat races a night then....I mean, thats what was happening in NY in the game's greatest years wasnt it?

Worked great in NY for a very along time. As soon as they went to condioned racing NY racing went down the drain where it remains. Great move by Gural

Its a very logical and scucessful way to classify horses.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 10:03:47 AM »

Not sure about it myself but it is up to the racing secretary.
Probably be a while until we see any patterns as to the class movements.
That is correct !!
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 10:40:15 AM »

2/10/75.  Temp 26.  YR has 9 races, 5 classified, 3 in the C classes... standard crap Monday night card. Co-featured B-1's won by Raintree Prince and Lookout Clay (!!) in 203.3 and 2:04.4, respectively. YET:  handle over 2 mil.  Attendance 12,422. 

But now the horses go so much FASTER, and so the game has accordingly gotten so much BETTERERER!!!! head shake  maroon maroon maroon
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 11:59:38 AM »

IN 1975 NAME THE OTHER FORMS OF GAMBLING OFFERED TO YOU,,,,,
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 12:29:21 PM »

Bookies hadn't been invented yet, by jings!  There were certainly no football tickets being circulated back then, pick four against the spread correctly, get 10-1.

Las Vegas hadn't been built, there was no lottery, no thoroughbred racing, no Jai-Alai, no doggies, and no one had Friday night poker games with the boys.

Just a vast gambling wasteland, with ONE oasis... harness racing.

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 07:00:24 PM »

Wow.. dunno head shake bang head
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2013, 12:49:22 PM »

this system is why we have so many long shots early in the meet.  how do really group horses from all those different tracks. 
I notice horses that raced in the same class at other tracks being placed in several different classes.  I guess when we had a few races in and the results are there we will get more clarity. 
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2013, 12:52:24 PM »

Obviously very popular as last night's handle was more than on Meadowlands Pace night.   trophy
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2013, 01:31:31 PM »

this system is why we have so many long shots early in the meet.  how do really group horses from all those different tracks. 
I notice horses that raced in the same class at other tracks being placed in several different classes.  I guess when we had a few races in and the results are there we will get more clarity. 

The Rideau Carleton post 18 shipper with the no-name driver would've been a bomb in any condition or class imaginable.
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