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Author Topic: Question For Yimmy and NYRA fans  (Read 542 times)
the exactorman
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« on: December 23, 2012, 01:33:57 PM »

I have a question regarding whether or not casinos help the racing product, other than raising purses.
I have been an Aqueduct fan for many years. I attend live races 40-50x/year.
Many people disagree with the fact that I always loved winter racing there.
When the casino at Aqueduct was built (which is beautiful), how did that help the racing product for the fans? I do not see any major improvements to the track, the seats have not been cleaned in 6 months or more, doors are broken, and it doesnt appear any casino money "filtered over" to the racing side?
All I see is smaller fields than there used to be, and many 5-6 horse races with odds on favorites. I realize why owners and trainers should care about casinos, but how does the addition of casinos to the racing product, make it better for the fans and bettors?, who ultimately support the game?
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 03:05:03 PM »

hopefully the change in nyra mgmt will change things but i have my doubts
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 11:29:58 AM »

X man be very prepared for Yimmys answers because most "can't handle the truth!"
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 04:13:25 PM »

X man be very prepared for Yimmys answers because most "can't handle the truth!"

Yimmy will no doubt have the truth...and unlike what Jack Nicholson said in a "Few Good Men"...I CAN handle the truth! laughing guy laughing guy

Merry Christmas Fuzz!
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 04:43:22 PM »

I don't, save for the fact that NYRA has never been run terribly well or efficiently, so it's SOP over there as far as I'm concerned.

I literally have not been to Aqueduct in 20 or so years, though oddly enough my son played a couple of travel-ball games a block or so away a few summers ago.

The inner-dirt track is a joke; I have never understood it one bloody bit.  I like races at 7f and at one mile around a single turn.  The notion of 6f OR two turns with nothing in between seemed ridiculous to me in the late 70s, and it still does.  BUILD A PHUKKIN' CHUTE, DAMMIT!  Otherwise you're just chasing pool dollars out to the west coast.  Why should routers have to break right into a turn?

Aqueduct even in its best days was always a grim, gray hulk between an airport and a changing neighborhood.  NYRA appears to have sold off or leased pieces of that vast parking lot over the years, but to me, the whole damned track is redundant and should be sold.  Put the money into Belmont, enclose the grandstand, make it all-weather, and that's it.

Casino dollars may have inflated purses here, but not to such an extent that they can keep decent horses around for the late autumn and winter months; shit, Pletcher had half his barn down in Kentucky in early October.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 11:41:45 PM »

A) The only "fans" of NYRA are downstate Democrats who supported Elliot Spitzer caving to NYRA's "threat" of eminent domain over Big A, Big Sandy, and Spa. NYRA is one of the biggest political machines in Albany's Democratic controlled world. If NYRA was a single person, they'd be akin to a combination of Bernie Madoff, a drug addict, and a train wreck.

B) Regarding profits at Big A's "Racino", it'll take a while to actually hit the quality of racing at the Big A. The first step is probably just being able to keep winter racing alive at the Big A to begin with. Yonkers has a stronghold on the slot game with plenty of bus trips, so the Big A is going to have to work hard to take those retiree's dollars.

Cheers.
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