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Author Topic: 5th race @ Hawthrone no contest void.  (Read 1090 times)
muddy
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« on: November 16, 2012, 05:20:35 PM »

No contest due to horse down @ wire on the turf track.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 05:24:37 PM »

Looked like a horse broke down by the wire the 1st time around. The jockeys had to pull up there mounts in the stretch causing a no contest.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 05:26:20 PM »

the horse that broke down(rip) just raced 5 days ago WTF!(yes i know sometimes horses come back within a week and win),  great job by the riders, outriders, peter g and everyone out there in keep everyone else safe
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 05:31:36 PM »

which horse broke down?

I think short rest is ok for a sprinter but 2 turns is pushing your luck.

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 05:40:13 PM »

the 7 i believe, hopefully roman is ok
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 06:02:24 PM »

Yes, it was #7.   Looked bad.  Peter G did a great job.  I have never heard a caller call out tot he jockeys like that.  And the outrider was great at getting out there too.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 06:12:33 PM »

http://www.barntowire.com/2012/HAWnotes121116.html

Roman to hospital, lower back pain. Vol Du Vent euthanized.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 06:23:40 PM »

What happens of there is a claim in a race like this? Once the gate opens the claim is in effect even if the horse doesn't finish...but what if the race doesn't finish at all?
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 06:26:55 PM »

What happens of there is a claim in a race like this? Once the gate opens the claim is in effect even if the horse doesn't finish...but what if the race doesn't finish at all?

Just guessing, but would no contest equal no claim.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 06:44:17 PM »

Just guessing, but would no contest equal no claim.

That's what I would guess but I wasn't sure.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 08:40:54 PM »


 Any chance that the breakdown is connected to the virus ?
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 08:52:19 PM »

I relented and watch a Hawthorne race and I sure picked the wrong one!  I sure hope the viris wasn't the cause.  But after hearing about Equiforce's horse who went down going from the barn, who knows?
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 10:04:18 PM »

I would have to believe that this had nothing to do with the virus.   If the horse was weak enough to fall down out of the gates you would have to think the jockey would have felt it in the post parade.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 01:37:05 AM »

 In any event , Postmortem  testing for the virus appears in order . 

The test  result , whether positive or negative , would seem useful to an analysis of the problem.   

Of course , if positive ,  it may indicate that the intensity of the attempted corrective measures needs to be cranked up and maxed out immediately.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 09:23:07 AM »

What happens of there is a claim in a race like this? Once the gate opens the claim is in effect even if the horse doesn't finish...but what if the race doesn't finish at all?

Title is transferred when the horse being claimed becomes a starter.  They started---just didn't finish.  My interpretation is a claim would be valid.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2012, 02:02:25 PM »


  But maybe, if Race is declared No Contest , it is Void , and if Void from start , then there was no Race , and in turn , No Race means No Valid Claim.   

  Guess answer lies in Definition of " No Contest"  which assume must be somewhere in the IRB laws or rules.

 ( must admit to having been too lazy to try to look up the actual answer , so the above is just a guess)

 
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 05:39:23 PM »

Got the official answer to this. When a race is declared no contest, that means it never happened. In Illinois, that means no claims, it also means no change to entry dates, purse stays in the purse account, and no jockey fees.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2012, 05:50:02 PM »

Got the official answer to this. When a race is declared no contest, that means it never happened. In Illinois, that means no claims, it also means no change to entry dates, purse stays in the purse account, and no jockey fees.


Thank you Janine. I was afraid to ask thinking it was a dumb question. Apparently it wasn't. Thanks for looking into that!
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