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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2012, 05:04:14 PM »

HOW ABOUT STARTING A HARNESS TOPIC?
I didnt see you respond to a few harness related threads today.
What do you think about the fair start rule in Canada?
Like it? think they should implement it here in the US?
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2012, 05:07:04 PM »

I didnt see you respond to a few harness related threads today.
What do you think about the fair start rule in Canada?
Like it? think they should implement it here in the US?

there is alot i like about racing in canada including the fair start rule
what i despise is the 7/8 mile oval especially at woodbine
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2012, 05:07:45 PM »

I didnt see you respond to a few harness related threads today.
What do you think about the fair start rule in Canada?
Like it? think they should implement it here in the US?
I lose interest after they've been ruined by the bullshitters.
I am for the fair rule.
But subjectivity always comes into play.
Some horse just don't like the gait and if they didn't start a few lengths behind the gate they would break leaving absolutely no shot for the gambler or owner.
It's an intricate game.
Just need more consistency among rulings.
The Red Mile - John Campbell fiaco being case in point.
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2012, 05:15:44 PM »

there is alot i like about racing in canada including the fair start rule
what i despise is the 7/8 mile oval especially at woodbine


7/8ths?Huh  That is the first time i have EVER heard someone say that.   screwy
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2012, 05:20:55 PM »

7/8ths?Huh  That is the first time i have EVER heard someone say that.   screwy
I have heard it said in the context that bettors feel there is less movement because of the configuration of the track. I am not putting words in his mouth, just stating that I have heard it said pretty often.
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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2012, 05:27:58 PM »

I lose interest after they've been ruined by the bullshitters.
I am for the fair rule.
But subjectivity always comes into play.
Some horse just don't like the gait and if they didn't start a few lengths behind the gate they would break leaving absolutely no shot for the gambler or owner.
It's an intricate game.
Just need more consistency among rulings.
The Red Mile - John Campbell fiaco being case in point.
Oh come on that is why we come to forums to bullchit!
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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2012, 05:43:46 PM »

hijack

things must be slow with no one  to talk to elsewhere but thanks for trolling anyways

U 2 TALK--- AS WPE
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2012, 05:55:28 PM »

I lose interest after they've been ruined by the bullshitters.
I am for the fair rule.
But subjectivity always comes into play.
Some horse just don't like the gait and if they didn't start a few lengths behind the gate they would break leaving absolutely no shot for the gambler or owner.
It's an intricate game.
Just need more consistency among rulings.
The Red Mile - John Campbell fiaco being case in point.
Oh come on that is why we come to forums to bullchit!
And along comes a perfect example of what I was talking about.
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2012, 05:58:18 PM »

Great idea
WELL???
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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2012, 06:02:44 PM »

WELL???
YONKERS 4TH--- NUMBER 1
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2012, 06:15:37 PM »

7/8ths?Huh  That is the first time i have EVER heard someone say that.   screwy

stick around and you will learn something besides how much you should really get paid  with a guarateed p4 pool.
hoosier park is a 7/8 mile track along with woodbine and mohawk not sure of others
woodbine is a 7/8 mile dirt harness track inside of  a poly tbred track and then both are surrounded by a 1.5 mile oval turf course
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2012, 06:54:16 PM »

7/8ths?Huh  That is the first time i have EVER heard someone say that.   screwy
7/8ths mile racetracks produce the most boring races imagineable. you leave, tuck, are not parked before the turn , sit, and wait, wait,and wait some more then you sprint home. the worst thing to happen to harnes racing in the last 20 years is a 7/8ths mile racetrack. at the meadowlands you leave, here comes the turn, thats the price you have to pay for the front. on a 5/8ths the same thing . you quarter pole and try for the front, it costs. horrible racing on a 7/8ths. i just hate it.
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2012, 07:33:14 PM »

7/8ths mile racetracks produce the most boring races imagineable. you leave, tuck, are not parked before the turn , sit, and wait, wait,and wait some more then you sprint home. the worst thing to happen to harnes racing in the last 20 years is a 7/8ths mile racetrack. at the meadowlands you leave, here comes the turn, thats the price you have to pay for the front. on a 5/8ths the same thing . you quarter pole and try for the front, it costs. horrible racing on a 7/8ths. i just hate it.
I agree with you swoop.
At least they were smart enough to not have a passing lane because then for sure nobody would ever pull.
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2012, 07:47:35 PM »

I agree with you swoop.
At least they were smart enough to not have a passing lane because then for sure nobody would ever pull.
i love 5/8ths mile racing. if you want to try and go 3 wide down the backside the oppurtunity is there. quarterpole to the front. the option of parking somebody if your in front.  its all there in front of you. it makes the driver make decisions, which in turn make for better racing. breeders crown races down to the quarter in 27 and halfs in 57. give me a break
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2012, 07:55:48 PM »

YONKERS 4TH--- NUMBER 1
$8 for second--- dammmmm
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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2012, 07:57:47 PM »

$8 for second--- dammmmm


Wrong thread Salz
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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2012, 08:16:29 PM »

is whippig a horse after the wire and the race is done abusive to you ?

thank you for responding ?

It is a Auto fine at every track i have ever been to
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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2012, 08:39:23 PM »

I've used the whip after the wire .. Horse tries to stop right after wire and I about get ran over .. Happen a few times .. Also hit the disc too and I got called in for hitting the disc ...stupid judge who never drove a race in his life wants to tell me what to do not understand the horse every week about gets me ran
Over lol ... Also seen a few guys hit the horse after the wire just cause they didn't win
And our mad .. Won't mention any names but they never got called in

Bobby, thanks for sharing your insight, wish you did it more often.. Really cool hearing from a guy who's on the track and can inform those of us who don't understand what it's like from drivers perspective! Thanks again Bob-O!
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« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2012, 09:44:45 PM »


Wrong thread Salz
no, i commented to burton about 6 comments up---, or by now 9 comments up---
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« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2012, 10:02:38 PM »

And along comes a perfect example of what I was talking about.

Gee I wish u and the horse luck !
U don't bullchitteress?
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