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« on: October 13, 2012, 10:30:28 AM »

And what about it brought you back?

I first went to Maywood on a cold cold December night.
The building was a beacon in the night.
Lights shining.
Parking lot full.
Inside a lit track with action taking place with drivers and horses working hard.
Breath of the great animals seen by all as they exerted themselves.

It was a warm place to go to see great competitiona and wager a few bob. Crowds abuzz in the depths of winter.
It brought me back.
Little did I know at the time the joys of spring and summer harness racing with the babies coming out and the top stock coming back from winter quarters and layoffs.
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 10:45:56 AM »

BayMeadows years ago when it use to be harness racing.
It wasnt filled with all the chemist and abuser like now and most of all those that support them.
It was in the late 1950's early 1960's

There was a horse who's name I loved
Snappy Tass
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 10:58:10 AM »

forgot the yr but it was at spk and goveror skipper was racing that night
the crowd the noise  the betting and a beautiful night
how can anyone not like it !
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 11:02:14 AM »

forgot the yr but it was at spk and goveror skipper was racing that night
the crowd the noise  the betting and a beautiful night
how can anyone not like it !

I think it was 1977.
I actually talked to Bill Wirtz Sr.(the owner) at a holiday function about 7-8 years ago and introduced myself and mentioned Governor Skipper.
He lit up and talked for a bit and then thanked me and said, everyone always talks to me about the Blackhawks.
A very nice horse.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 11:42:40 AM »

Late October 1988 at Pompano.  Purely by accident.  Guess it was fate.

My favorite time of year however is always the Red Mile Fall meet.  Good times and nice to see old friends.

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 12:25:04 PM »

Funny question for us old guys on here !!
It's been so many years, who can remember !!
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 12:27:10 PM »

Funny question for us old guys on here !!
It's been so many years, who can remember !!
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Think hard, you'll get it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 12:48:10 PM »

lol!!!!!!!
Think hard, you'll get it.
I'm thinking, I'm thinking !!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 12:50:02 PM »

Late October 1988 at Pompano.  Purely by accident.  Guess it was fate.

My favorite time of year however is always the Red Mile Fall meet.  Good times and nice to see old friends.

nothing like the red mile in the fall
all the greats have made their way there !   thumbs up
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »

SUMMER TIME AT SPORTSMAN ,,DA YEAR ARLINGTON HAD DA FIRE...


FORGET DA YR,,,


GREAT AFTERNOON RACIN  DAT SUMMER...


SPORTSMAN PARK WAS DA BEST......
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 04:24:41 PM »

a cold winter night at pownal vt, my dads first horse ever, this early 70"s... his horse fell at start,, driver bill silk said-- 'HE JUST A LITTLE GREEN".  thank goodness spring came and got into saratoga!
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 04:28:52 PM »

late spring , many moons ago at East Moline Downs.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 04:49:38 PM »

a cold winter night at pownal vt, my dads first horse ever, this early 70"s... his horse fell at start,, driver bill silk said-- 'HE JUST A LITTLE GREEN".  thank goodness spring came and got into saratoga!


Green Mountain  trophy
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 04:53:16 PM »


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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 05:25:19 PM »

It was the late fall I believe, at Maywood around 1970, give or take a year. Didn't bet but watched and learned how to read the program. My favorite track and time of year was easy, SPK summer, by far the best racing in Chicago.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 06:22:45 PM »

1957, Old Woodbine (later called Greenwood) Hot July night, I was 15, hopped the fence and bet a $6 combine on Kalmuck Direct driven and owned by Ken Galbraith from Tara ON. He won and I collected $16. Hooked ever since!
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2012, 06:27:20 PM »

hot summer night at saratoga. place was packed with overflow from the runners. town was electric. great horses like jackhammer, lehi rainbow, riff raff, italian barmin,volos mike, bernie lyne.

nice crowd,good food, george miller on the mike(heeeeeeeere they come......theeeeyre they go). exciting, a long way from watching a monitor at an OTB.


GREEN MOUNTAIN is the coldest place on earth. waiting for a train to pass to get in or out of the parking lot....praying you didnt get shut out of the double. everything frozen solid after the mid day thaw. bernie pratt wearing colors he hadnt changed in three months. harold story patiently waiting for "carmine abbatiello sunday" when he could finally turn his barn loose and win 5 races while the suckers were betting on "the redman". watching a blizzard while the announcer called the race on the 13/16 track.

saratoga and green mountain......2 different worlds, each with something to offer.
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 06:31:09 PM »

1957, Old Woodbine (later called Greenwood) Hot July night, I was 15, hopped the fence and bet a $6 combine on Kalmuck Direct driven and owned by Ken Galbraith from Tara ON. He won and I collected $16. Hooked ever since!

was geenwood called woodbine at one time ? the greenwood i knew was down by the lake while woodbine was nearer the airport
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2012, 06:40:38 PM »

Woodbine was down by the lake in east Toronto. when E.P Taylor (of Northern Dancer fame) built a new track near the airport - it was named Woodbine and the old track was named Old Woodbine later renamed Greenwood
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2012, 06:50:25 PM »

zoot--- you good.. riff raff one of my all time favorites--- roger pultz!
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2012, 06:53:06 PM »

you know, im sure, there's an airport on an island in the lake. we sometimes flew into that one if we had a horse racing at greenwood.

has that track been torn down?
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2012, 06:59:35 PM »

zoot--- you good.. riff raff one of my all time favorites--- roger pultz!

howard parker stable: roger pultz and earl bean 2nd trainers, walt the pollack, john bown, the guy with the coke bottle glasses that rubbed for dancer, big al and the one girl in the barn were the grooms.

man those were the days
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2012, 07:10:39 PM »

1972 interNational trot at Roosevelt Raceway.

Speedy Crown beats Une De Mai who was going for his third International Trot win and trying to make it 2 in a row. My whole family had a table at the Cloud Casino and me and my brother thought we were royalty .
It was also the first time I ever had a shrimp cocktail. It' s funny how I can still remember that night like it was yesterday .
My uncle was a trainer there and in 1984 he had a pacer that he converted into a trotter who got third that year in the internatinal trot . Horse's name was Crown Wood.
That was just after Ideal de Gazaeu had won three years in a row.

Good times...good times.
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2012, 07:19:08 PM »

une de may...."her" third.....she was a she.......none the less,great mare,great times. in one of her wins she was parked every step and still got up to beat a thoroughly pissed stanley dancer and his champion nevele pride
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2012, 07:23:35 PM »

Sorry .
I remember one of Ideal du Gazeau's mile , he was parked around three turns and still won. Classic european racing style .
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2012, 07:37:47 PM »

i never knew until just recently, those 2 you mentioned were not standardbreds but technically classified as "french trotters" a different breed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Trotter
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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2012, 08:26:18 PM »

Fall. Winning.
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« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2012, 08:40:42 PM »

80-81 Blue Bonnets in Montreal.

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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2012, 08:54:27 PM »

1957, Old Woodbine (later called Greenwood) Hot July night, I was 15, hopped the fence and bet a $6 combine on Kalmuck Direct driven and owned by Ken Galbraith from Tara ON. He won and I collected $16. Hooked ever since!
Thats a great story Franco! thumbs up
Did they eventually make that into a off track betting place?
Or is Greenwood off track betting somewhere else?

Do you ever get to the other Canadian tracks?
I always wanted to try and get to Clinton Raceway....never happened...
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2012, 09:03:04 PM »

1972 interNational trot at Roosevelt Raceway.

Speedy Crown beats Une De Mai who was going for his third International Trot win and trying to make it 2 in a row. My whole family had a table at the Cloud Casino and me and my brother thought we were royalty .
It was also the first time I ever had a shrimp cocktail. It' s funny how I can still remember that night like it was yesterday .
My uncle was a trainer there and in 1984 he had a pacer that he converted into a trotter who got third that year in the internatinal trot . Horse's name was Crown Wood.
That was just after Ideal de Gazaeu had won three years in a row.

Good times...good times.
Great story Racepony. The night you are speaking about was the same first night I went to the track also (RR)! I did not go to the Cloud, however, I was in the packed clubhouse and my Dad bought seats which were the section next to the owners boxes so they were a little past the finish line.
I loved Crown Wood BTW, he won many races from the 8 hole which was not an easy feat!
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« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2012, 09:36:56 PM »

1957, Old Woodbine (later called Greenwood) Hot July night, I was 15, hopped the fence and bet a $6 combine on Kalmuck Direct driven and owned by Ken Galbraith from Tara ON. He won and I collected $16. Hooked ever since!

Mention of the Greenwood track reminded me of a picture I had posted of this track. Here it is again

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« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2012, 08:53:26 AM »

First time was 1965 a cold night at Roosevelt. I was 13 and had been to Aquaduct but that was first time to "the trotters." That tote board with the wps possible payoffs was unlike any other. First race I bet a horse driven by Frank Popfinger that paid $20.20.
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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2012, 09:05:34 AM »

Early 70's, Monticello during the summer. Grandstand 100% full. Bet on one side and if you won you cashed on another side. All of the windows were about 20-30 people deep. And you could get an ice cream something you can't anymore.
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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2012, 09:10:30 AM »

Now Monticello has only two tellers open.

Pathetic.
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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2012, 09:13:44 AM »

First Saturday night in October 1980 at Balmoral. Went back Sunday afternoon,,,and I was hooked,
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2012, 09:19:05 AM »

greenwood was one of the best places to race at in the summertime. walk to the beach, a trolley car ride down queens blvd. right into downtown toronto. great track kitchen. here's a story, raced a good invite horse for Ronny waples one night named Holland. when you were in the front paddock you had a small pathway you had to walk to get to the track for the post parade. the fans were all lined up along the rails just abusing waples. things like you stiffing c@#ks$%#$r,non driving piece of chit, and so on. it was pretty bad. I'm at the horses head and Ronny says to me "they love me here". i chuckled a little but the obscenities just kept coming. the starters says go and waples comes three deep off the last turn with Holland and cruises by to victory. Ronny and i are coming out of the winner circle and i swear it was the the same guys, they start screaming at Ronny. "your the best waples", "great drive Ronny", "way to go waples we crushed it" and so on. waples turns to me and says, " see, i told you they love me here". i still get a chuckle remembering that story when somebody mentions greenwood.
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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2012, 11:42:43 AM »

Now Monticello has only two tellers open.

Pathetic.
Two lousey tellers and I actually got shut out a few months ago there. One window was busy with the teller cashing a check and the other had a guy who was doing his handicapping at the window. The self serve machines wouldn't take cash. I think they fixed that. I used to like the place, now it makes me sick to go there.
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2012, 11:45:30 AM »

greenwood was one of the best places to race at in the summertime. walk to the beach, a trolley car ride down queens blvd. right into downtown toronto. great track kitchen. here's a story, raced a good invite horse for Ronny waples one night named Holland. when you were in the front paddock you had a small pathway you had to walk to get to the track for the post parade. the fans were all lined up along the rails just abusing waples. things like you stiffing c@#ks$%#$r,non driving piece of chit, and so on. it was pretty bad. I'm at the horses head and Ronny says to me "they love me here". i chuckled a little but the obscenities just kept coming. the starters says go and waples comes three deep off the last turn with Holland and cruises by to victory. Ronny and i are coming out of the winner circle and i swear it was the the same guys, they start screaming at Ronny. "your the best waples", "great drive Ronny", "way to go waples we crushed it" and so on. waples turns to me and says, " see, i told you they love me here". i still get a chuckle remembering that story when somebody mentions greenwood.
Years ago when I would go to the A with friends they would do that to Angel Cordero every race. If he lost with a favorite or won with a bomb and beat thier number it would get nuts.
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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2012, 12:13:00 PM »

greenwood was one of the best places to race at in the summertime. walk to the beach, a trolley car ride down queens blvd. right into downtown toronto. great track kitchen. here's a story, raced a good invite horse for Ronny waples one night named Holland. when you were in the front paddock you had a small pathway you had to walk to get to the track for the post parade. the fans were all lined up along the rails just abusing waples. things like you stiffing c@#ks$%#$r,non driving piece of chit, and so on. it was pretty bad. I'm at the horses head and Ronny says to me "they love me here". i chuckled a little but the obscenities just kept coming. the starters says go and waples comes three deep off the last turn with Holland and cruises by to victory. Ronny and i are coming out of the winner circle and i swear it was the the same guys, they start screaming at Ronny. "your the best waples", "great drive Ronny", "way to go waples we crushed it" and so on. waples turns to me and says, " see, i told you they love me here". i still get a chuckle remembering that story when somebody mentions greenwood.

Great story swoops ! But all of your stories are just the best!
Miss them so much they ate treasures!

Ps met Pam at fern dale this year it's still magical and packed like the ol days!
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2012, 04:26:54 PM »

greenwood was one of the best places to race at in the summertime. walk to the beach, a trolley car ride down queens blvd. right into downtown toronto. great track kitchen. here's a story, raced a good invite horse for Ronny waples one night named Holland. when you were in the front paddock you had a small pathway you had to walk to get to the track for the post parade. the fans were all lined up along the rails just abusing waples. things like you stiffing c@#ks$%#$r,non driving piece of chit, and so on. it was pretty bad. I'm at the horses head and Ronny says to me "they love me here". i chuckled a little but the obscenities just kept coming. the starters says go and waples comes three deep off the last turn with Holland and cruises by to victory. Ronny and i are coming out of the winner circle and i swear it was the the same guys, they start screaming at Ronny. "your the best waples", "great drive Ronny", "way to go waples we crushed it" and so on. waples turns to me and says, " see, i told you they love me here". i still get a chuckle remembering that story when somebody mentions greenwood.
Great story Swoop thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2012, 10:50:46 AM »

While Green Mountain was not the first of the more than 115 tracks (t-bred, harness, quarterhorse, and greyhound) I have visited, it brings back some of the fondest memories. Saturday day-night doubleheaders, Kim Crawford at 17 driving Rebel Aaron and matching up against the Jim Doherty-driven Foxboro shipper Miami Beach; Irvin Foster winning the Open Trot almost every week; 2:40 miles in the mud, or 2:00 miles for the shortened 3/4 mile dashes during the Spring thaw; a very decent announcer Tony Butler; making the 320 mile round-trip from central Westchester with my father, and trying to tune in a Schenectady radio station (WGY ??) to grab late results to hear if we cashed; fog on the Taconic State Parkway; 8 YO maidens going for $ 600 purses. Trot-Pace Opens when the top classes were short. Sunday programs freshly printed with all the Saturday afternoon and evening results.

Had I been an owner then, I would have been dismayed by the purses and the conditions. But it was a different time, and I can conjure up Summertime/Fall memories of Hinsdale as well.
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« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2012, 03:10:52 PM »

one sunday afternoon we had one in the first at green mountain and 9th at monticello. road trip ......saw them both in person... bet the vikings and lost to the cowboys in the playoffs. listened to the game on the radio when we could pull the station. drew pearson.....fran tarkington. those were the days.
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« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2012, 03:40:06 PM »

Great story!
That reminds me of a similar story:

I had two that were in on the same day at Finger Lakes (Mike Ferraro was the trainer). I had plans to fly up there with my dad and spend the day, because both horses were live and Mike liked them a lot. He says to me, "come up today and get your picture taken twice."

My dad, being the old, stubborn and cheap Italian that he is says to me, "We are wasting our time. Let's just go to OTB and watch it so we don't spend all that money or ruin a good day." (flights were $40 each way and I was paying) . I, being the loser that I am , actually listen to him and we go over to the local OTB.

Sure enough, the first horse wins by 10 lengths and pays $14.00. Then the second horse wins and pays $26.00 to break his maiden. There I was, sitting with the dregs of society at OTB pissed off that I wasn't there in person. My dad didn't come near me. I wanted to punch my father in the face for the first time in my life. (i didn't because he is my father).

Then...all the busted asses at OTB started asking me for money, like I was the king of Siam. I think they thought that I was given the purse checks right there, on the spot. We had to leave when a patron started to piss in the garbage can.
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« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2012, 04:25:19 PM »

late spring , many moons ago at East Moline Downs.


Mine was in March....second weekend at the time I think. It was QC Downs by that time. 1987
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2012, 01:40:17 AM »

June 1966.  Sportsman's Park.  I had been there for T-breds often but never harness racing.  No idea why I picked that night.

It was one week after Bret Hanover won the Am-Nat.  The name Bret Hanover meant nothing to me, of course.  But I was impressed by the race.  A lot faster than most in the program.  So I bet a horse who had raced against Bret,  Silver Dawn Truax.  Won at 5-1 beating heavily favored Tarport Prince.

Had another 5-1 winner that night, Little Al beating favored Layne Adios.  Cashed a few smaller bets.  Ended up $93.00 ahead for the night.  That was FANTASTIC to me.  I was making $1.85 an hour filing X-Rays at a medical clinic.

So I became double gaited for life.  Still love to watch both breeds.
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