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Author Topic: Gilbert Garcia-Herrera belongs in the USTA Hall of Fame  (Read 2775 times)
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« on: October 09, 2012, 05:29:05 PM »

The toughest track in the nation and the Last 12 months at Yonkers   273 Starts   41% Win,  19% place, 11% show  ITM 70%, probably   4 or 5th another 30%, this guy can make owners money, maybe build him his own wing at Goshen
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 05:45:47 PM »

The toughest track in the nation and the Last 12 months at Yonkers   273 Starts   41% Win,  19% place, 11% show  ITM 70%, probably   4 or 5th another 30%, this guy can make owners money, maybe build him his own wing at Goshen

HEZ A HORSEMAN.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 05:57:03 PM »

PENA CLONE?
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 05:58:06 PM »

Another superstar from Cal Expo that couldn't win there.
Hall of shame.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 06:09:31 PM »

HEZ A HORSEMAN.

Does Pigland shoe for him ?
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2012, 06:10:46 PM »

Does Pigland shoe for him ?

No Joe Faraldo won't let Pigland work at Yonkers except for Steak Races.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 07:33:22 PM »

why a clone. it is pena's main beard. just the facts
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 08:40:11 PM »

why a clone. it is pena's main beard. just the facts

YEP.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 09:20:39 PM »

GIL IS A VERY GOOD HORSEMAN,,,BUT A GREAT ONE W/PENA
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2012, 12:18:38 AM »

HEZ A HORSEMAN.

Yeh he teachn dem hoss yogi every morning  they   Go hay bolo boo!
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 12:21:06 AM »

The irrefutable fact is Pena and Gilbert were batting less than .250 when they left California and headed east.

And considering the weak competition they were against each night their batting average should have been over .800!

Assuming of course that the reason for their sudden rise to training gods status out east is pure horsemenship not illegal training methods.

So at what point in their sudden rise to greatness did this newfound way to train reveal it'self to them?

On Interstate 40 driving through New Mexico or after their arrival in New York/New Jersey? Or maybe before they left Cali?

I am amazed that they had the balls to be so in your face about it after the Eric Ledfraud cheating scandal.

Who was least likely to succeed on the east coast?  Eric (red hot) Ledfraud?  or Nobodies Lou (who) Pena, Gilbert Garcia and Jen Sabot?

Eric was brazen with his in your face claims and sudden form reversals and that led to his arrest and suspension.

Lou, Gilbert, and Jen are living on borrowed time.  
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 12:56:46 AM »

for how long have people been saying that
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 02:58:09 PM »

for how long have people been saying that

It plays like a soundtrack loop inside my head and every once in a while escapes into a forum post.

I guess with every post it seems less likely that they will ever get caught and testing will never catch up with them. dunno
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 03:13:19 PM »

GarciaHerrera  Harrahs Chester R11 New lifetime mark off the claim won by 10
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2012, 03:54:13 PM »

Holy chit that Cal Expo must have some of the greatest trainers in the history of the game. They send the mid level guys out east & all they do is make it look easy. Ban Pena bring in the relief pitcher Gilbert Herra Huh?  Is it a Mexican thing? Some secret family recipe that only works 1000+ miles east of the Pacific Ocean? Who knew it was that easy...they toil @ the Expo for years racing for peanuts....move east & in a couple of years they are set for life....the life of the game of harness racing is getting shorter, but who cares these guys are making a mockery of it & stealing all they can while they can. The testing is way behind what ever the next new great thing is by at least 5-7 cycles. The "legit" guys are on 2-3 cycles ahead
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2012, 03:57:58 PM »

GILBERT GOOD PEEPS...HE WOOD NEVER HURT A FLY
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2012, 04:50:10 PM »

ON MY WAY TO THE OTB,,
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2012, 05:01:26 PM »

Another superstar from Cal Expo that couldn't win there.
Hall of shame.

Yes sir y da hell u guys get some 3claimeers
Get your royal Americans out here to Calexpo and learn how to be the next super fricking star?
Instead of *** about it ?
Hell and if u get banned every where as a trainer when u no your a star chit u can run for governor of California!

I mean come on California spits out star trainers like Vernon's new vannilla sundae machine juice had a picture of!
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2012, 10:05:16 PM »

WHOS NEXT THEN?
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 02:14:33 AM »

WHOS NEXT THEN?

Brown?

Ruiz?

Or whomever is training for KC Carvallo.

Carvallo's horses seem to improve the training percentage of the listed paper trainer no matter who it is.
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 08:22:30 AM »

Brown?

Ruiz?

Or whomever is training for KC Carvallo.

Carvallo's horses seem to improve the training percentage of the listed paper trainer no matter who it is.

K C has one trainer and one only!

Has had the same damn trainer for over a year has gotten new owners involved in harness racing that have found the passion and love of horses so rewarding!

I don't mind your  thoughts and opinions when carefully thought but to make a wild azz guess at some one who gets new owners involved is reachn and does border line liable!

Now stick to Penas associates their secret agent man and try not too go outside that close net circle .

First off all Kia if they want to clean the industry their is a test for 1tpp it's not FDA approved!
So why isnt racing commissions pushing that approval?

Simple there's more damn Penas in this industry than any damn illegals coming across the border!
U would have one damn third the racing and horses u have now!
Quit smitten in gasoline to smoke your crack K I A!
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2012, 08:41:05 AM »

It plays like a soundtrack loop inside my head and every once in a while escapes into a forum post.

I guess with every post it seems less likely that they will ever get caught and testing will never catch up with them. dunno

 Everyone thought Lance Armstrong wasn't cheating....now what do people think ??

 Everyone said Ben Johnson was the greatest sprinter in his day until he got popped.

 I know more than most on this board about the Cali guys. Being a horsemen is no longer the most important aspect in this business. Chemicals rule the day. If you don't already know this you are either a complete idiot, you live in a cave, or you are in denial. Of course more people everyday are turning towards what they can give and what they can get away with. Corruption is not limited to a select few and it is growing everyday....it is the fact these guys just have better numbers and stand out more than the others.

 Until the FBI gets involved nothing will be rectified.
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2012, 08:52:47 AM »

Is it a Mexican thing?

I tried a concoction of Corona, Cilantro and Poblano Peppers....To save you the trouble that didn't work.....I agree with you people are just stealing what they can until the game crashes.....which isnt going to be long
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2012, 09:26:06 AM »

Everyone thought Lance Armstrong wasn't cheating....now what do people think ??

 Everyone said Ben Johnson was the greatest sprinter in his day until he got popped.

 I know more than most on this board about the Cali guys. Being a horsemen is no longer the most important aspect in this business. Chemicals rule the day. If you don't already know this you are either a complete idiot, you live in a cave, or you are in denial. Of course more people everyday are turning towards what they can give and what they can get away with. Corruption is not limited to a select few and it is growing everyday....it is the fact these guys just have better numbers and stand out more than the others.

 Until the FBI gets involved nothing will be rectified.

What makes u think they r not involved?

The problem is the commissions and boards are not helping speed the process up jmo
If they wanted that test approved it would have been done at warp speed!

So why not?

The corruption and dishonesty would blow a black hole in racing!
I luv u pace fool we all scream clean it up but there is only one way drug free racing,
Do u realize what that would do to the drug and vets who these trainers have made partners with every owner?
How high and far does this delima really reach?

To the moon Alice to the moon!
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2012, 12:18:28 PM »

What makes u think they r not involved?

The problem is the commissions and boards are not helping speed the process up jmo
If they wanted that test approved it would have been done at warp speed!

So why not?

The corruption and dishonesty would blow a black hole in racing!
I luv u pace fool we all scream clean it up but there is only one way drug free racing,
Do u realize what that would do to the drug and vets who these trainers have made partners with every owner?
How high and far does this delima really reach?

To the moon Alice to the moon!


 Yes you are right that it would change racing. Could you imagine no drugs at all Huh?  WOW

 *** ......these guys wouldn't know what to do with a horse without a needle or a tube.

 I wrote a long paragraph on what I think should happen. Then I laughed like hell and said that would never happen.
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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2012, 04:56:02 PM »

We just keep petitioning 4 drug free racing !
If u want it to end we have to stick together u no what we r going to be facing!
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2012, 06:45:03 AM »

Does Cal Expo still race?
What happens when the only money in the pools is from the crooked scumbags?
Do they take turns stealing each others money each night?
The fact that anyone is talking about Gil being a great trainer is perhaps more amusing than talking about Senor Louie being a great trainer. Gil knows which end pisses.
They both must have the same enchilada recipe for their horses..
The troubling thing is, if bettors who follow the game can figure out Gil is a beard, why can't the racing commissions?
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2012, 12:37:06 AM »



You have prided your self on being credible and don't hide and where u are located so I ll be needing that information  from you,


Now man up  with it!
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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2012, 04:53:02 AM »

You have prided your self on being credible and don't hide and where u are located so I ll be needing that information  from you,


Now man up  with it!

Robin?

Is this you Robin?

It took me too long to figure out who you reminded me of.

I don't think any horseMAN or horseWOMAN from Cal-FIXPO should be involved in any conversation about race fixing.

You risk having old wins and their circumstances being dug up out of hiding.
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2012, 11:16:15 AM »

Now you are threatening  another California horsemen with black mail!


Name and address where you are licsenes ?

U always brag you don't hide behind  a screen name.

I don't run to any mod so dont worry about your post coming down!

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« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2012, 11:24:54 AM »

Now you are threatening  another California horsemen with black mail!


Name and address where you are licsenes ?

U always brag you don't hide behind  a screen name.

I don't run to any mod so dont worry about your post coming down!


agree fuzz always claims we all know who he is well, I sure as fuuuuk don't know..
 
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« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2012, 06:14:20 PM »

agree fuzz always claims we all know who he is well, I sure as fuuuuk don't know..
 

Yeh always claims he is known by everyone and that is what makes his lies credible !

Yet know one seems to know who he is exactly.

I've offered to make the trip out East to visit this famous credible poster in person to discuss his lies with him.
Still more liable slander and lies with out him manning up.

Jack I don't mine difference of opinion know matter how heated it gets.
What I mine is an individual who isn't of enough charecter to stand by there opinions in person!

Jack how many times have u and I disagreed? And have told each other how full of chit the other is? Many but it would never stop me from ever meeting u face to face or hiding from u?
We both no disagreeing is as important to racing as horses. That's the difference we stand behind our opinions no matter how different it's part of our charecter.

But individuals like wood puddy here are just plain chicken shit!
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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2012, 12:33:27 AM »

Pelling (Brett, Brian)...Anderson (Joe)....All from Cali with equal or better success.
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« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2012, 08:48:34 AM »

Pelling (Brett, Brian)...Anderson (Joe)....All from Cali with equal or better success.

Oh and there's another Anderson who claimed many horses from Plano and did real well in Canada .
Also the father of crack here fails to leave out the fact that Wines didn't become hall of fame trainers!

Oh and Brown Kc trainer didn't hold the training title at Minnesota!
Also the Crack Dady didn't mention kc and Loe Pena hate each other!
Also browns per cent age are not close to what wines were in California !

Browns horse in Minnesota  purse money won100gs
Crack Dady go figure some more Pena brings that idown in a wk!
Usta ruling is u can only bet your horse on top in a exotic wager!
Like that really keeps the industry and gambling honest?
So if u bet a 10 dollar super with your horse on top and boxing 6 horses under iyou would have a 1200 dollar ticket but if you go and just boc in that same race a 10 cent super feta with 4 horses costing 2.40 u are betting against your own horse according to usta rules and can be fined! As a owner!
The rule is laughable only the standardbred registry has such a rule laughable!

I'm sure crack Dady here has something being the king of crackheads has never bet his horse in a super box after all he is the Almighty crack head king tat would never lie to any government agency or governing agency!
Just another disabled crack head living off the government would never do that would u crack king?
 
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