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« on: September 29, 2012, 09:23:07 PM » |
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I'm so sick and tired of certain driver's whipping -or should I say wahling on them!! The 4th at Balmoral was a cheapy race and they went to the quarter in 27.0- half in 54.3...a certain driver would not stop when the horse pooped he just kept whipping it. Something needs to be done about some of these driver's!!!!! Their's more then one in Chicago- they need to be whipped!!!!! Also-u can sure tell who the juicer's are and nothing is done about that either- EVERYONE knows this and nothing is done!! NICE......
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2012, 09:39:33 PM » |
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how do u spell juice - why of course PROCOPI - AFFRUNTI
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 11:50:34 PM » |
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Yep!! And many more. It's so obvious it make's me sick. Like a few horse's that have been claimed that were in a 4 claimer and now their in the invitaional!! SAD!!!
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 11:51:35 PM » |
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Yep!! And many more. It's so obvious it make's me sick. Like a few horse's that have been claimed that were in a 4 claimer and now their in the invitaional!! SAD!!!
Why bet or race at the dump with all the fixed races and driver clicks. Obviously track management doesn't care. |
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 12:16:52 AM » |
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So true!!! No one care's- that's the problem.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 03:37:01 AM » |
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So true!!! No one care's- that's the problem.
Then don't bet or race there. And, easy on the apostrophes. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 06:52:16 AM » |
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Rock Chic....who is the driver?? I will notify track Management Thanks Sulky  |
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 10:35:15 AM » |
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I don't bet or race there Jeeper's- I watch everynight and I am not blind. Because I care you have to make a crappy comment towards me. See- that's the problem everyone is blind to all the BS that goes on in Chicago racing! Easy on your crap comments!!! As for who the driver is- watch the 4th race at Balmoral last night- it's clear to see even tho their are a few driver's that are whip happy and look like crazy idiots!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 10:36:25 AM » |
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Thanks for the heads up Rock Chick!!!  |
Everything I say is to be considered opinion, not fact. Please verify with outside sources all comments and statements made by me.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 12:04:00 PM » |
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Rock Chic....who is the driver?? I will notify track Management Thanks Sulky Don't waste your time contacting Balmoral management. They don't care. If anything they will defend the activities that you are upset with. |
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 12:27:35 PM » |
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So true!!! No one care's- that's the problem.
Not true! WE DO CARE and I am someone arent you? The problem is it seems to fall on deef ears. So throwing our hands in the air and allowing the horses to be victims isnt all right in my books. We have to ban together and email the holy crap to the racing boards and stewarts and judges that are allowing this whipping chit. Its not that hard to many hate the whips and I no damn good and well they dont use them in Europe we have to bann together and supply email address and work the internet. |
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 01:58:53 PM » |
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Not true! WE DO CARE and I am someone arent you?
The problem is it seems to fall on deef ears.
So throwing our hands in the air and allowing the horses to be victims isnt all right in my books.
We have to ban together and email the holy crap to the racing boards and stewarts and judges that are allowing this whipping chit.
Its not that hard to many hate the whips and I no damn good and well they dont use them in Europe we have to bann together and supply email address and work the internet.Good Stuff !! I watched the race.... Let me tell you something..... If you don't think PETA is aware of whipping at the harness races you are sadly mistaken. Track Mgmt MUST take excessive whipping VERY seriously... PETA can whip up 1000 people in a heartbeat and protest in front of Balmoral as fast as you can say Sonny Dancer" !! Balmoral will be asked to monitor the whipping going on at their track.... Count on it !! Sulky
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 02:45:03 PM » |
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Thank you for your comments!! Sulky I am willing to e-mail anyone and everyone! I don't know if it will matter tho but if I can make some sort of difference in what goes in at the Chicago tracks I will!! Give me the addy's and I will get right on it. What about all the juicer's tho. You can clearly tell who they are. I do not own horse's or race in Chicago but my father did for 45 yrs and I've been around it my whole life. He never got a possitive test ever.....Clearly if I can see it they can see it!
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 02:54:27 PM » |
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Not true! WE DO CARE and I am someone arent you?
The problem is it seems to fall on deef ears.
So throwing our hands in the air and allowing the horses to be victims isnt all right in my books.
We have to ban together and email the holy crap to the racing boards and stewarts and judges that are allowing this whipping chit.
Its not that hard to many hate the whips and I no damn good and well they dont use them in Europe we have to bann together and supply email address and work the internet.Good Stuff !! I watched the race.... Let me tell you something..... If you don't think PETA is aware of whipping at the harness races you are sadly mistaken. Track Mgmt MUST take excessive whipping VERY seriously... PETA can whip up 1000 people in a heartbeat and protest in front of Balmoral as fast as you can say Sonny Dancer" !! Balmoral will be asked to monitor the whipping going on at their track.... Count on it !! Sulky |
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 03:06:24 PM » |
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I don't know if it will matter tho but if I can make some sort of difference in what goes in at the Chicago tracks I will!! No Prob Rock....... We made a difference with the famous driver Allan Davis cheating at Harrington video.... because of emails sent by fans to harrington and the director of harness racing in delaware we got allan suspended for 9 days....and some judges were replaced.... AND allan davis was embarrased as hell !! sometimes just letting the drivers know that the public can watch them thru video can decrease the chances of cheating... Here is the famous Allan Davis Video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zwur9gG8mv8I had to let the management at Harrington know that this was a smoking gun of race fixing.....and we wanted them to know we are not stupid.... I will never bet Harrington..... We can make a difference....don't listen to anyone... Sulky
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 03:09:10 PM » |
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I support your efforts, but you dont know the management in Chicago. Balmoral's management will dismiss your email quickly. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2012, 03:11:42 PM » |
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Thanks for the info Kelly.....  We will keep trying.... Sulky |
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2012, 03:17:58 PM » |
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I support your efforts, but you dont know the management in Chicago. Balmoral's management will dismiss your email quickly.
Illinois emails are sent to the Philippines. They never actually get read by anyone at the track. Complete toilet bowl. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2012, 03:29:24 PM » |
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Email was sent to "Doc" at Balmoral....about the reported excessive whipping during race 4 .... All we can do is notify the track right now....Keep watching the races and report drivers that are abusing the whipping rule..... I have no problem notifying track management.... let's just make sure all reports are legit......If we come across as pisssed off betters we will make no impact..... But whipping is serious..... and something the USTA will not tolerate at tracks.... Good Job Rock Chic sulky |
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2012, 05:08:37 PM » |
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Does you letter include Mike Oosting whipping his wife or ex wife or girl friend ?
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2012, 05:39:17 PM » |
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Does you letter include Mike Oosting whipping his wife or ex wife or girl friend ?No Sulky
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 05:39:39 PM » |
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Thank you so much for the info sulky! I need to get a hold of Doc. Club - My thoughts on that are if you beat your wife or gf can u imagine what he does to horse's? They let anything and everything slide in Chicago- I will say he's not whip happy like alot of the idiots but then again he like's milk-shaking and Juice. I usually don't like to mention name's on here because I did one time and someone sent me a nasty e-mail and people were just plain rude.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 05:43:09 PM » |
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Rock Chic.... Here is the race secretarys e mail @ Balmoral enarotsky@aol.comHis name is Doc... Let them know out of control whipping is not acceptable ! Sulky |
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 06:01:17 PM » |
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Can I use that email for other issues, like when the guy thats 7th at the 1/4 sits because he doesn't want to be 3rd over and instead waits for the guy behind him to pull and then he races 4th over and finishes 2nd to the horse that took his 3rd over spot. Or will they tell me to F off and call FBI ?
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 06:21:38 PM » |
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Can I use that email for other issues, like when the guy thats 7th at the 1/4 sits because he doesn't want to be 3rd over and instead waits for the guy behind him to pull and then he races 4th over and finishes 2nd to the horse that took his 3rd over spot. Or will they tell me to F off and call FBI ?Sir, you can do whatever you like with the email... Its public.... whatever makes you happy... We will be using it to report excessive whipping.... Good luck with reporting the issues you bring up.... I need all the help I can get.... Sulky
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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2012, 06:42:24 PM » |
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Thank you. I will keep you posted.
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Jeepers
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2012, 01:58:00 AM » |
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I don't bet or race there Jeeper's- I watch everynight and I am not blind. Because I care you have to make a crappy comment towards me. See- that's the problem everyone is blind to all the BS that goes on in Chicago racing! Easy on your crap comments!!! As for who the driver is- watch the 4th race at Balmoral last night- it's clear to see even tho their are a few driver's that are whip happy and look like crazy idiots!!!!
Crappy comment toward you? Hardly. I didn't see that race. I am sure you care. Name the driver. Period. Or don't come on a comment board where frank commentary is the norm. |
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2012, 02:44:44 AM » |
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I support your efforts, but you dont know the management in Chicago. Balmoral's management will dismiss your email quickly.
Don't give up so easily. Why? I started the thread titled "Power Of A Stiff" right here on btw when Marcus stiffed Power Of A Moment at 1/9. That night I sent an email to the IRB about Marcus' drive. The next morning I got an email from Ed Mingey saying they were going to look into it. Within a week Marcus got a 7 day suspension for a lack of effort. His only suspension that I know of. So don't think your voices won't be heard. Just find the right ears outside of the stewards at Balmoral. Ben Wessels is friends on Facebook with these clowns. So he won't take any action unless he is forced too. |
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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2012, 08:46:33 AM » |
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Josh Sutton is a whipaholic! This guy is the king of beating the hell out of a horse. Nobody comes close to the damage via whip that this guy can do. When your horse comes back to the paddock expect welts and cuts.  |
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2012, 04:15:44 PM » |
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Don't give up so easily. Why?
I started the thread titled "Power Of A Stiff" right here on btw when Marcus stiffed Power Of A Moment at 1/9.
That night I sent an email to the IRB about Marcus' drive.
The next morning I got an email from Ed Mingey saying they were going to look into it.
Within a week Marcus got a 7 day suspension for a lack of effort. His only suspension that I know of.
So don't think your voices won't be heard. Just find the right ears outside of the stewards at Balmoral.
Ben Wessels is friends on Facebook with these clowns. So he won't take any action unless he is forced tooCorrect The game needs to be changed from the OUTSIDE.....( meaning...us fans...)... The game is small enough that boycotts do have an impact if needed and poeple stick together.
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2012, 10:15:43 AM » |
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Ok Jeepers I will- John Roberts!!!! You see I don't mention any names on here because I get shitty e-mails from people like you if I say anything- but I've had enuff of the whip happy asse's at Chicago-Sutton, Smolin, Roberts to name a few- u don't see Oosting or Marcus doing it! and they are the leading driver's !! Now I am just sick to my stomache because Roberts is training my dads 2 horses that he had when he died- I can only imagine how they are being treated -  |
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2012, 11:49:08 AM » |
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I WATCH EVERY RACE !! when the money is down oosting will beat on a horses like everyone else. by the way , most of the time they are not hitting the horses. also, ROBERTS HAS A BAD BACK , WATCH HOW HE REACHES WAY BACK TO WHIP. hes not hurting anything. back in the day, they did some -BLOODY whipping . they are just trying to scare the crap out of the horses. DONT YOU WANT THE DRIVERS TO TRY?? I DONT GET IT! ILL TAKE ROBERTS OVER MOST!  |
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2012, 11:51:36 AM » |
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Posters are taking things to the extremes..( imagine that) ..... If drivers would stay within the whipping rules then all should be good... We have 2 extremes...... Mr weekend at bernies who will not whip a horse....and several drivers who want to beat these animals to a pulp. Stop the comparisons.... Just stay within the rules of whipping....end of story... Sulky |
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2012, 12:13:37 PM » |
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Agreed Sulky!! I watch ALL the races too!! In this race I'm talking about Roberts starts whipping on the back side and continues all the way to the stretch- 4 claimer's 54.3 to the half- for someone who has a bad back he sure can WHIP!!!!!
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2012, 02:40:36 PM » |
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OO does not use the whip on his women. he gooses them home.
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2012, 03:52:53 PM » |
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LOL momo!It's really not funny tho... but true.
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2012, 07:46:15 PM » |
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I don't bet or race there Jeeper's- I watch everynight and I am not blind. Because I care you have to make a crappy comment towards me. See- that's the problem everyone is blind to all the BS that goes on in Chicago racing! Easy on your crap comments!!! As for who the driver is- watch the 4th race at Balmoral last night- it's clear to see even tho their are a few driver's that are whip happy and look like crazy idiots!!!!
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2012, 11:32:05 PM » |
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I watch because I love it and grew up with it!! My father did it for 45 yrs up until he died....so It's part of my life......I bet when I go to the track. I have RTN so I don't have to go.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2012, 11:46:27 PM » |
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I'm so sick and tired of certain driver's whipping -or should I say wahling on them!! The 4th at Balmoral was a cheapy race and they went to the quarter in 27.0- half in 54.3...a certain driver would not stop when the horse pooped he just kept whipping it. Something needs to be done about some of these driver's!!!!! Their's more then one in Chicago- they need to be whipped!!!!! Also-u can sure tell who the juicer's are and nothing is done about that either- EVERYONE knows this and nothing is done!! NICE......
Wow you people are insane......the guy was parked and trying to clear the lead and once his horse faded he never touched the horse......I never saw him hit the horse the last 3/8 of a mile.........sometimes I wonder WTF people are looking at |
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Rock Chick
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2012, 12:05:40 AM » |
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OMG! !!!!! That's how u see it??? OK...
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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2012, 12:57:31 AM » |
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Ok Jeepers I will- John Roberts!!!! You see I don't mention any names on here because I get shitty e-mails from people like you if I say anything- but I've had enuff of the whip happy asse's at Chicago-Sutton, Smolin, Roberts to name a few- u don't see Oosting or Marcus doing it! and they are the leading driver's !! Now I am just sick to my stomache because Roberts is training my dads 2 horses that he had when he died- I can only imagine how they are being treated - I wouldn't dream of bothering to send you an email. So you're pretty off base on that one. |
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2012, 01:21:48 AM » |
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Thank you so much for the info sulky! I need to get a hold of Doc. Club - My thoughts on that are if you beat your wife or gf can u imagine what he does to horse's? They let anything and everything slide in Chicago- I will say he's not whip happy like alot of the idiots but then again he like's milk-shaking and Juice. I usually don't like to mention name's on here because I did one time and someone sent me a nasty e-mail and people were just plain rude.
You send copies of those nasty emails to every one of the horse racing organization IHHRB investigators stewards racing secretary's and investigators you can find and to the USTA to every damn race track where and racing board where the carving pos trying to act like a driver , and the link to the race and the page of the owner and trainer then you send it to the SPCA and to animal planet oh and PETA as a last resort .. If you know who the person is make a copy foiled it up in a tube with the sobs name on it go to the race track where you can find him and point to something on the ground and ask them to pick it up shove that tube so far up his kooter you give the sorry pos a tonsillectomy and tell his friends you had air mail for him spacial delivery. (Pray to God you don't break a nail or you ll be cuzz all damn day.) Remember make sure you leave them with the capitol letter in R ude in every ones mine. I would be damned if i would back down from any common pos who sends a chicken butt shuffle email being rude shoot.and let me also remind you of this.Nothing about racing is polite. Least of all to these horses so you remember them and never stop fighting for them. You will notice two very distinct sides on this subject one trying to make you believe your eyes are lien too you and you are lien to the world the other side that feel the same way you do and feels like you but wants to make sure its accurate because they are so sick of it. You will notice it will always be the same blind sobs telling you your are crazy and it didn't happen they do that with every thing you are any one else brings about about the filth and horrendous things this industry does to horses and they think by keeping it quite and trying to make 7 out of ten that comment on this are crazy and us posting and screaming to the tenth power is the way to keep their racing alive while all these chicken chit things happen to horses and we bring to light are EXACTLY how the public sees it and much worse but because we don't bow to their eloquently perceptions we are stoopit. In REALITY they are STOOPIT because it happens how we perceive it or not and their perception would be correct it is how the public views us and damn strait that is is exactly why so many stay away. Also public perception of our INDUSTRY. Until we put horses first our industry is dooomed. Now as knowledgeable and passionate these good ole boys are about harness they are also killing it just as much s the drugs by not stepping up and changing. Ps The Driver Somelen feeding his family well just remeber every one you carve on you just maybe feeding your family thats all fine but every damn one you carve on buster you are probaly putten on an ASIAN or Europiean famlies table by following those kind of orders from a owner or trainer so that makes you a fricking BUTCHER! |
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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2012, 02:07:41 AM » |
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Careful stone...if you disagree with her and attempt to call her out, the mod deletes your posts..Every single one I made has been deleted because I had the temerity to disagree with her.. Dictatorial splendor runs rampant.
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« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2012, 07:18:09 AM » |
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Careful stone...if you disagree with her and attempt to call her out, the mod deletes your posts..Every single one I made has been deleted because I had the temerity to disagree with her.. Dictatorial splendor runs rampant.
What's even more hilarious is thinking Doc would even cares about this subject , he cares about screwing horsemen on the draw , like his new policy of NW of 1 & 2 where horse under 20 starts get preference. Funny how the fairs are not included for the money earning but are included as a start Now you won't be able to get in for 3-4 weeks like the T-Breds , he does not have a clue |
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« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2012, 09:10:34 AM » |
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OMG! !!!!! That's how u see it??? OK...
Yes that is how I see it.......actually I watched the replay again and he might not have whipped after the 1/2 pole.......he was givin the horse the business up the backside but that was in an effort to clear the leader as he was parked the mile......would you rather see him give no effort and just pull up out of the race.......if you dont like whipping, dont watch racing...its that simple |
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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2012, 11:04:19 AM » |
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Careful stone...if you disagree with her and attempt to call her out, the mod deletes your posts..Every single one I made has been deleted because I had the temerity to disagree with her.. Dictatorial splendor runs rampant.
Jack for your record Ive had more post taken down for my dictoral splendor than all of you put together. So hold on their Jack and back it up. See the problem is you think you no jack and you dont no jack so cause I cant spell for chit gripes you then dont read me and dont try to figure it out but dont be pulling some damn pitty party of unfair crap that you all knowing men seem to pull this pitty party of unfairness. Not one damn time do i cry about it like you guys "oh my post is the word of god sent from the racing god him self and they took it down and used it to wipe the floor." Hell no I dont but you and many others all get to gether and file your damn inquiries like its the damn breeders crown. I post and type whats in my heart I dont pull the wool and I sure the hell have never ever filed an iquiry like all of you nor do cut down a forum where its still America and Im allowed to post how I feel with out the fear of the damn Taliaun cue stoning my ass as you brave and great Ernest damn HEMMINGways try to appear. My rampsnt are my rampants and I sure azz chit down have the stomach for all your macho buttocks kissn of each other you damn right Im a women who has fought and stood up for things you guys have know idea and u hide behind each other shirt tails waiting for the other to make the move so you dont get shot down well IDONT. So quit acting like a bunch of pizz ant wussy. |
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2012, 11:09:56 AM » |
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Yes that is how I see it.......actually I watched the replay again and he might not have whipped after the 1/2 pole.......he was givin the horse the business up the backside but that was in an effort to clear the leader as he was parked the mile......would you rather see him give no effort and just pull up out of the race.......if you dont like whipping, dont watch racing...its that simple
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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2012, 11:12:25 AM » |
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Jack for your record Ive had more post taken down for my dictoral splendor than all of you put together. So hold on their Jack and back it up. See the problem is you think you no jack and you dont no jack so cause I cant spell for chit gripes you then dont read me and dont try to figure it out but dont be pulling some damn pitty party of unfair crap that you all knowing men seem to pull this pitty party of unfairness.
Not one damn time do i cry about it like you guys "oh my post is the word of god sent from the racing god him self and they took it down and used it to wipe the floor." Hell no I dont but you and many others all get to gether and file your damn inquiries like its the damn breeders crown.
I post and type whats in my heart I dont pull the wool and I sure the hell have never ever filed an iquiry like all of you nor do cut down a forum where its still America and Im allowed to post how I feel with out the fear of the damn Taliaun cue stoning my ass as you brave and great Ernest damn HEMMINGways try to appear.
My rampsnt are my rampants and I sure azz chit down have the stomach for all your macho buttocks kissn of each other you damn right Im a women who has fought and stood up for things you guys have know idea and u hide behind each other shirt tails waiting for the other to make the move so you dont get shot down well IDONT. So quit acting like a bunch of pizz ant wussy.
Hey fuzzy...you keep count of deletions..You been timed out How do you know all of this ? Must be from the heart that tells you this.  Frankly fuzzy you are full of chit. |
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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2012, 11:31:16 AM » |
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Hey fuzzy...you keep count of deletions..You been timed out How do you know all of this ? Must be from the heart that tells you this. Frankly fuzzy you are full of chit. No I didnt keep count like all you damn odds makers do. Frankly jack you are correct IMO, so full of the damn bull chit the industry been trying to stuff down our throats. I have all the fine upstanding spellers and eloquent bullchitters, in the horse industry to thank for my constipation! but don't worry helps on the way with all the ex lax Ive had to swallow in this industry lately everything will be moving along just fine from here on out just more turds for sewer pipeline so if you consider diarrhea of the mouth like I consider most all the excuses in the horse industry eggnor my rampant azz. |
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