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Author Topic: Casey Leonard attempts to measure off win - and LOSES  (Read 1942 times)
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« on: September 28, 2012, 08:20:05 PM »

I just got in and turned on Maywood even though I'm not betting. Race 6 Leonard sits like a statue and gets nailed at the line. Announcer even mentioned Leonard "sitting chilly" down the lane. He looked like he thought he couldn't lose but got beat by an inch. Un*******believable. Check out the replay when it's available.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 08:22:12 PM »

SHOULD BE SUSSPENDED FOR A YEAR
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 08:26:42 PM »

I just got in and turned on Maywood even though I'm not betting. Race 6 Leonard sits like a statue and gets nailed at the line. Announcer even mentioned Leonard "sitting chilly" down the lane. He looked like he thought he couldn't lose but got beat by an inch. Un*******believable. Check out the replay when it's available.

maybe was waiting for his buddy?
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 08:31:23 PM »

maybe was waiting for his buddy?
CHEAT ?
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 08:41:13 PM »

He wasn't even looking and thought he was home. Overconfident handling would be the comment line. Roberts flew up somehow and surged at the bright lights. How many ways are there to lose bettin' this ****?

http://www.maywoodpark.com/pages/RaceReplays.cfm

Gotta feel for guys with win money on this thing at 7/2.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 09:05:31 PM »

He wasn't even looking and thought he was home. Overconfident handling would be the comment line. Roberts flew up somehow and surged at the bright lights. How many ways are there to lose bettin' this ****?

http://www.maywoodpark.com/pages/RaceReplays.cfm

Gotta feel for guys with win money on this thing at 7/2.
WE LOSE MORE FANS EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF DRIVES LIKE THIS!!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 10:41:01 PM »

he just fell asleep at the wheel
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 11:02:19 PM »

In the old days, he would be getting a vacation of 30 days. But today, with the push for slots in Chicago, expect NOTHING.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 11:54:35 PM »

 Most boring, unagressive, stupid, driver on the grounds! Should be fined and suspended for failing to give his best effort down the stretch. Looked like he was falling asleep in the bike. head shake
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2012, 12:01:27 AM »

 This what you call a stupidity loss! He don't deserve to drive horses.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2012, 01:57:51 AM »


Do we think that the horse would have 'sped up' if CL reached back with a few one handers?

It looked to me like the horse was pacing as fast as he/she could, the driver had this one at top speed and the horse was 'reaching out' and trying. It didnt seem to me the horse needed any more 'encouragement' as it was pacing as fast as he could go.

Now, if the horse seemed to 'pull himself up' in the final 16th and the driver grabbed and eased him up than yeah, it would have been a travesty. It just looked like the driver was making the horse go as fast as he could go, im not sure a few one handers would have made this horse go any faster.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2012, 05:41:29 AM »

Do we think that the horse would have 'sped up' if CL reached back with a few one handers?

It looked to me like the horse was pacing as fast as he/she could, the driver had this one at top speed and the horse was 'reaching out' and trying. It didnt seem to me the horse needed any more 'encouragement' as it was pacing as fast as he could go.

Now, if the horse seemed to 'pull himself up' in the final 16th and the driver grabbed and eased him up than yeah, it would have been a travesty. It just looked like the driver was making the horse go as fast as he could go, im not sure a few one handers would have made this horse go any faster.

and you know that how ?  Seems as if the "one handers" by Roberts made his horse go faster and GUESS WHAT HE WON...And Leonard "sitting chilly" you must have heard the term, LOST. 
The driver lost that race..Fact not fiction and opinion.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2012, 06:41:00 AM »

Without knowing Maywood and this drivers style....It's tough to make a case for cheating..... The Allan Davis famous smoking gun of race fixing video is very clear that Allan held his horse back..... 

Is leanard known to be a chilly driver with the lead??   I would start the process of notifying Maywood ...ect......but I just dont see a smoking gun here.....  maybe he is very good at losing by making it look good.... I dont know..... Need more info on this guy...




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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2012, 06:46:26 AM »

Without knowing Maywood and this drivers style....It's tough to make a case for cheating..... The Allan Davis famous smoking gun of race fixing video is very clear that Allan held his horse back..... 

Is leanard known to be a chilly driver with the lead??   I would start the process of notifying Maywood ...ect......but I just dont see a smoking gun here.....  maybe he is very good at losing by making it look good.... I dont know..... Need more info on this guy...




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PROLLY A BAD MEASUREING JOB
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2012, 07:06:00 AM »

Without knowing Maywood and this drivers style....It's tough to make a case for cheating..... The Allan Davis famous smoking gun of race fixing video is very clear that Allan held his horse back..... 

Is leanard known to be a chilly driver with the lead??   I would start the process of notifying Maywood ...ect......but I just dont see a smoking gun here.....  maybe he is very good at losing by making it look good.... I dont know..... Need more info on this guy...




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IMO No cheating whatsoever...Driver error period.. Or a just plain dumb drive.
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2012, 07:10:16 AM »

IMO No cheating whatsoever...Driver error period.. Or a just plain dumb drive.
LOOKED LIKE HE MEASURE THE WRONG HORSE
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2012, 07:20:42 AM »

This guy leanard did look like "weekend at bernies goes harness racing".     But ....This will be tough to get him a couple days vacation.....




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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2012, 07:21:06 AM »

LOOKED LIKE HE MEASURE THE WRONG HORSE
lOOKS LIKE JOHN ROBERTS MEASURED THE HORSE CORRECTLY.
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2012, 07:22:07 AM »

This guy leanard did look like "weekend at bernies goes harness racing".     But ....This will be tough to get him a couple days vacation.....




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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2012, 07:34:15 AM »

I'm not suggesting cheating here. This horse lost by an angstrom and the guy is just sitting there. If Roberts is on this horse he bangs on him and holds for fun. In my mind that's 1000000% fact. I could be wrong BUT I'M NOT. If that race is $100 grand do you think Leonard sits there like a *** in the last 100 yards? Everybody knows the answer.
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2012, 07:37:23 AM »



I'm not suggesting cheating here. This horse lost by an angstrom and the guy is just sitting there. If Roberts is on this horse he bangs on him and holds for fun. In my mind that's 1000000% fact. I could be wrong BUT I'M NOT. If that race is $100 grand do you think Leonard sits there like a *** in the last 100 yards? Everybody knows the answer.




Good Point....   I am not a driver....  so I do not know if "urging " would of helped win this race....  The horse was going foward...   BUT,,,,  I would think if this was a 100k race....he would of looked a teeenie bit more motivated.... Has he ever been involved in a huge purse race?? 













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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2012, 07:51:13 AM »

 There is no point in discussing this any further. It was one of the worst drives in the history of Maywood. This horse does respond to whipping and urging as I have seen many of his races in the past. No excuse and this driver needs to be called in. He drove my horse once this year and my horse broke at the gait. It was the only time in 2 years my horse broke. The horse is "GREAT GAITED"  yet this moron who drove my horse once comes back and says my horse is bad gaited?Huh Whatever the reason for the break, it was NOT what he suggested. The dude has no clue what he is experiencing or judging out there!!!! head shake
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2012, 07:58:31 AM »

There is no point in discussing this any further. It was one of the worst drives in the history of Maywood. This horse does respond to whipping and urging as I have seen many of his races in the past.


OK...Now we at least have some information about this horse....  The horse has a history of responding to urging....can anyone else comfirm?   I think he should be brought in for questioning....    I will contact maywood...  at least they should know the betters did notice a "stiff" job on a horse that has responded to urging in the past....   I will foward the video... and ask for an opinion by the Tracks GM...






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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2012, 08:01:17 AM »

There is no point in discussing this any further. It was one of the worst drives in the history of Maywood. This horse does respond to whipping and urging as I have seen many of his races in the past.


OK...Now we at least have some information about this horse....  The horse has a history of responding to urging....can anyone else comfirm?   I think he should be brought in for questioning....    I will contact maywood...  at least they should know the betters did notice a "stiff" job on a horse that has responded to urging in the past....   I will foward the video... and ask for an opinion by the Tracks GM...






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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2012, 08:05:56 AM »

 This horse gets a rise from noise. He wears earplugs. All Leonard had to do was crack the shaft a couple of times and he wins. Watch his other races on Maywood.com and you will see he does get game when urged!!!!
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