13,000 horses could be destroyed in 2013 if Ontario racing industry collapses

[vegas jay]

http://www.thestar.com/sports/horseracing/article/1250221--13-000-horses-could-be-destroyed-in-2013-if-ontario-horse-racing-industry-collapses

[the exactorman]

This is a horrible story/situation which defines what happens when liberals are in charge. Using the slots $$ that was earmarked for the horse racing industry to finance healthcare so they can support the people that milk the system is a disgrace.

[Yimmy]

I am no defender of the Ontario Fiberals, but if Hudak were in charge, I'm sure he'd have had to do the same thing.  Ontario is 16 billion in the hole.

[Round Table]

This is a horrible story/situation which defines what happens when liberals are in charge. Using the slots $$ that was earmarked for the horse racing industry to finance healthcare so they can support the people that milk the system is a disgrace.

Tell that to the 5,000,000 students and young people under the age of 25 who now receive health care and checkups under their parents plan.

I am no defender of the Ontario Fiberals, but if Hudak were in charge, I'm sure he'd have had to do the same thing.  Ontario is 16 billion in the hole.

Don't know about Canada but here, in the U.S., and through 2019, 50% of our tea-party infused Congressional budget deficit will go to pay down a) the Iraq War and b) finance irresponsible Bushonian tax-cuts. This is unacceptable.

And, if you supported the war with it's concurrent overwhelming expensive privatization of the military, you have no right to criticize.

Currently, there are an estimated $21 trillion in taxable resources hidden off-shore.  Ask Mitt Romney to release his tax returns to see what his real tax rate actually is. He says he is worth $250 million, but we really don't know, truly he could be worth $1 billion. His returns need to be made public according to precedent which father established when he ran for President, for god's sake.

Don't compromise the nation's health, stop balancing the budget on the backs of the poor and middle class to finance irresponsible tax-cuts and out-of-control privatized military spending, tantamount to welfare for the ultra-wealthy and well-off.  It is no longer acceptable.

[Yimmy]

But the story's about Canada-land, and specifically Ontario, 867... I enjoy a good rant and commend you on this one, but that stuff has nothing to do with Canada.

[Mary Ann]

I normally don't talk politics on horse racing forums but it seems sometimes a reminder is needed and that is it was the private sector that destroyed our economy. It was the private sector that needed to be bailed out.

[Yimmy]

"...When the recession started, the Transportation Department had only one person earning a salary of $170,000 or more. Eighteen months later, 1,690 employees had salaries above $170,000.

The trend to six-figure salaries is occurring throughout the federal government, in agencies big and small, high-tech and low-tech. The primary cause: substantial pay raises and new salary rules..."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm

Move along, nothing to see here... 

[Round Table]

"...When the recession started, the Transportation Department had only one person earning a salary of $170,000 or more. Eighteen months later, 1,690 employees had salaries above $170,000.

The trend to six-figure salaries is occurring throughout the federal government, in agencies big and small, high-tech and low-tech. The primary cause: substantial pay raises and new salary rules..."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm

Move along, nothing to see here...  

LOL.  You have to include the STATES.
Country-wide, Government spending as a % of GDP is at it's lowest level since the 1950's.

Once more, again.  Government spending, as a percentage of GDP, is at it's lowest level since the 50's.

Red state governors, with the help of their conservative legislatures, have legislated deep cuts, literally creating austerity budgets.  These budgets are responsible for substantial public sector layoffs and spending cuts which cramp our economic recovery.

[Mary Ann]

RT, in case you haven't seen this article, it's very interesting regarding the "lost decade":

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/08/22/the-lost-decade-of-the-middle-class/

[Yimmy]

LOL.  You have to include the STATES.
Country-wide, Government spending as a % of GDP is at it's lowest level since the 1950's.

Once more, again.  Government spending, as a percentage of GDP, is at it's lowest level since the 50's.

Really?

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1903_2010USp_13s1li011mcn_F1t

[Round Table]

Yep. Really!

[Yimmy]

Not even close.  Lookit the link.

[Round Table]

Not even close.  Lookit the link.

That linked data is 3 years old.   

Yep. Really!!

[Yimmy]

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/percent_gdp

40%.

Highest it ever was in the 50's was slightly under 29%.

[Round Table]

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/percent_gdp

40%.

Highest it ever was in the 50's was slightly under 29%.

Those numbers you presented are "guestimated" by that web site, U.S Government.com. Look at the data sources. 

[Yimmy]

Bla bla bla... of course they are estimated, given that, um, 2012 ain't over yet. Iin the meantime, you haven't provided one shred of evidence to support a proposition you appear to have made up out of whole cloth.

[Round Table]

Bla bla bla... of course they are estimated, given that, um, 2012 ain't over yet. Iin the meantime, you haven't provided one shred of evidence to support a proposition you appear to have made up out of whole cloth.

Anything past 2009, they've guesstimated.  The numbers are bogus.  It's a bullshit projection designed to hoodwink smart, socialized guys like you.   

[Yimmy]

The 2009 numPer was 42.63%

Come on... first you complain my numPerz are out of date, and then you say the current numpers are BS?  Puh-leeze. 

[Round Table]

No.  The numbers, not numperz, maybe at usgovernment.com they use the term numperz  , are bogus.  Anything after 2009 they've guesstimated.  It's designed to hoodwink smart, socialized guys like yourself. 

[Yimmy]

You know I love ya, but adjust the tinfoil hat. 

[Yimmy]

Btw, "numpers" is a harness-side locution, an invention of the irrepressible PIGLAND.

[Round Table]

Glad to clear that up for you.  The data sources they use aren't real, they're "guesstimated".  Anything after 2009 they've made up.

[Round Table]

http://www.thestar.com/sports/horseracing/article/1250221--13-000-horses-could-be-destroyed-in-2013-if-ontario-horse-racing-industry-collapses

Maybe some higher power can step in to save these poor animals.  I am very ashamed, since all I can do personally for them is pray. 

[The Turf Monster]

The pathetic part about asking for welfare, besides the part about not being able to support yourself, is that you dont control when it's taken away

[mel4600]

LOL.  You have to include the STATES.
Country-wide, Government spending as a % of GDP is at it's lowest level since the 1950's.

Once more, again.  Government spending, as a percentage of GDP, is at it's lowest level since the 50's.

Red state governors, with the help of their conservative legislatures, have legislated deep cuts, literally creating austerity budgets.  These budgets are responsible for substantial public sector layoffs and spending cuts which cramp our economic recovery.

You can't have a recovery with runaway debt or the country will end up like Illinois and California.