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« Reply #450 on: July 26, 2012, 10:44:16 PM »

This 1000000% Troll baited all you sorry ass hicks into posting fabricated twisted facts that were conjured up by nothing more than your imaginations. Now go make up some more stories that You, Fuzzy, and BFF can get off on.

that it somebody call  Johnny Cochran from  now you Liable slurs and slanders and just ludicrous and you have proove my point!
You are now baiting people by threatening black mail so we can get off oh HELL that will stand up real well before a jury or any kind of judge .
Do you have water on the brain somebody jumped on your clatonic bag?
Dude you are so far out of hand I dont think a lobotmy would be the answer cause all you do is post out your LIEING ASSSS.

Now you admitted you told Fly you would post all about her husband miss doing!
Why in the hell would you wait so long and now she post on a subject that any one can smell the fish market in your pal Raber and then you are going to turn every thing about her husband to the Authoritys. DUDE BLACK MAIL ! Where the hell is Johnny Cochran go get him dude you are going to need him I guarintee it. In this case it doesnt matter if the glove fits cause the zipper lost his gripper you are the dumbest i ve ever read chit maybe i cant compose and spell but my ost as bad  read as they are look like INE THE STINE .. compared to your Rhondo crushen  stupid ass genepool.
gO LOAD A STOCK TRAILER FOR YOU BUDDY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO EVEN SHOVEL CHIT ANY MORE ON THIS SUBJECT YOU ARE A LIAR NOW APOLEEYIGIZE FOR GIVING THE IMPRESSION YOUR FRIEND IS HONEST. chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken mucker mucker mucker mucker mucker mucker mucker
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« Reply #451 on: July 27, 2012, 08:19:36 AM »

that it somebody call  Johnny Cochran from  now you Liable slurs and slanders and just ludicrous and you have proove my point!
You are now baiting people by threatening black mail so we can get off oh HELL that will stand up real well before a jury or any kind of judge .
Do you have water on the brain somebody jumped on your clatonic bag?
Dude you are so far out of hand I dont think a lobotmy would be the answer cause all you do is post out your LIEING ASSSS.

Now you admitted you told Fly you would post all about her husband miss doing!
Why in the hell would you wait so long and now she post on a subject that any one can smell the fish market in your pal Raber and then you are going to turn every thing about her husband to the Authoritys. DUDE BLACK MAIL ! Where the hell is Johnny Cochran go get him dude you are going to need him I guarintee it. In this case it doesnt matter if the glove fits cause the zipper lost his gripper you are the dumbest i ve ever read chit maybe i cant compose and spell but my ost as bad  read as they are look like INE THE STINE .. compared to your Rhondo crushen  stupid ass genepool.
gO LOAD A STOCK TRAILER FOR YOU BUDDY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO EVEN SHOVEL CHIT ANY MORE ON THIS SUBJECT YOU ARE A LIAR NOW APOLEEYIGIZE FOR GIVING THE IMPRESSION YOUR FRIEND IS HONEST. chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken mucker mucker mucker mucker mucker mucker mucker
The most incoherent post ever written. Fuzzy, you better look in the mirror and check for drool.
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« Reply #452 on: July 27, 2012, 10:31:01 AM »

The most incoherent post ever written. Fuzzy, you better look in the mirror and check for drool.

*** you ignoramus.
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« Reply #453 on: July 28, 2012, 06:34:33 AM »

This article may shine some light on how the whole thing got jumbled and fumbled with the USTA. The person who was the Registrar at the time, and provided the information and guidance to Star's owner, pointing her to place the PHO designation on the horse and having the hardcopy of the registration mailed to her (therefore handling the entire thing) is no longer with the USTA.

http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/article.aspx?articleid=48105&zoneid=1

In a letter received from the USTA they basically wash their hands of the whole thing, convenient since the person who was in charge of these matters has moved on to another position as a Director here in Goshen for the Hall of Fame.

Glad to hear that the ORC has taken this situation on themselves now.
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« Reply #454 on: July 28, 2012, 07:23:08 AM »

This article may shine some light on how the whole thing got jumbled and fumbled with the USTA.
The article sheds absolutely no light on the story what so ever. You are attempt to implicate this women of some type of impropriety simple because she obtained a Bachelors and Masters from Ohio State is certainly a reach. Seriously, Grow up!
What happened to the wonderful person the horse was given to in the first place? You know, the one the most perfect trainer in the world had recommended.
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« Reply #455 on: July 28, 2012, 10:53:59 AM »

You are attempt to implicate this women of some type of impropriety simple because she obtained a Bachelors and Masters from Ohio State is certainly a reach.

Very strong, easily comprehended sentence right there.

You missed the point I was trying to make, which was a simple one. The person who originally was handling this case is no longer with the USTA and was already transitioning into her new roll at the Hall of Fame.

As far as being a grown up, how do you measure maturity? Take for example, a "mystery person" who signs up on an internet forum and will not reveal their identity, yet will threaten others who have NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO THEM, seemingly out of the blue. The same "mystery person" who lashes out against moderation on an internet forum that they have supposedly never been a member of. Ah, and the same person who claims the moderator (me) is biased, yet even after warning you privately when you once again threatened to post PMs, posted said PMs and I didn't even REMOVE THEM. The same person who is too thick to realize that they have NO POSSIBLE way to know what Admins and Mods remove on this site, yet complain that "you never do x, y, z...."
.....you are right, if you are a "grown up", then I certainly am not! Haha.

While you are up at 2-3-4 in the morning trolling message boards I am sleeping, because I have a J-O-B to do the next day. And while you are wasting hours of your day worrying about what random, usually fake people are posting about on the internet (none of which concerns you and nothing that you have any knowledge of) I have actual things to do, like caring for a stable of horses, a house and children.

Why a "grown up" like you chooses to spend your days this way, in the pursuit of "annoying degenerate gamblers" like you claimed in a PM to me, I have no idea. And once again, don't bother asking me any questions about the actual topic of this thread....you are about as useless to this cause as they come. You cannot answer ONE question, but have the audacity to keep coming on here and asking the same ridiculous thing that has already been gone over three times.

At what point do you stop and realize that you look like a fool? Why don't you tell me why Ohio will not accept entries on this horse? That would be a start....then go back and answer any of the other numerous questions I have asked of you and the others.


My goodness, you are a piker and a half!
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« Reply #456 on: July 28, 2012, 11:18:32 AM »

I think the Politically correct word would be, Gene pool of family questionable?
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« Reply #457 on: July 28, 2012, 11:44:23 AM »

The article sheds absolutely no light on the story what so ever. You are attempt to implicate this women of some type of impropriety simple because she obtained a Bachelors and Masters from Ohio State is certainly a reach. Seriously, Grow up!
What happened to the wonderful person the horse was given to in the first place? You know, the one the most perfect trainer in the world had recommended.
Poor Poor Poor Zipper,
 "Growing old is Manditory, Growing Up is optional."

True growing up is  knowledge  that gives us  wisdom.

So answer me this question when will you grow up?

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« Reply #458 on: July 28, 2012, 01:00:49 PM »

Very strong, easily comprehended sentence right there.

You missed the point I was trying to make, which was a simple one. The person who originally was handling this case is no longer with the USTA and was already transitioning into her new roll at the Hall of Fame.


So what! The fact that she left the USTA should somehow matter. You implied impropriety simply because she is a graduate of OSU.
So what, she left, big whoop.
Take a hike, go tend to your rats, and your horses too.
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« Reply #459 on: July 28, 2012, 01:39:02 PM »

This article may shine some light on how the whole thing got jumbled and fumbled with the USTA. The person who was the Registrar at the time, and provided the information and guidance to Star's owner, pointing her to place the PHO designation on the horse and having the hardcopy of the registration mailed to her (therefore handling the entire thing) is no longer with the USTA.

http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/article.aspx?articleid=48105&zoneid=1

In a letter received from the USTA they basically wash their hands of the whole thing, convenient since the person who was in charge of these matters has moved on to another position as a Director here in Goshen for the Hall of Fame.

Glad to hear that the ORC has taken this situation on themselves now.

So the PHO wasn't put on the horse prior to it going to the unnamed mysterious retirement home provider? Because that's how I read this post... Which is what I suggested many pages back.
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« Reply #460 on: July 28, 2012, 01:54:58 PM »

So the PHO wasn't put on the horse prior to it going to the unnamed mysterious retirement home provider? Because that's how I read this post... Which is what I suggested many pages back.


the owner retained the papers to keep the horse safe and others from ever being raced. . The lein saler falsefied a lein on the horse  to get the papers and forge the pappers electronicaly to remove  the PHO so he could race the horse or sale it again as a race horse.

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« Reply #461 on: July 28, 2012, 01:59:06 PM »

Okay. Is there documentation to proove that? Not saying you're wrong, but I gave up on this thread awhile back. Thanks.
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« Reply #462 on: July 28, 2012, 02:08:54 PM »

Fly posted it.
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« Reply #463 on: July 28, 2012, 02:46:26 PM »

Okay. Is there documentation to proove that? Not saying you're wrong, but I gave up on this thread awhile back. Thanks.

We have shown and given you proof over and over again.
Now I sure hope you are happy.This is not the end of this story.

I want to know Dave what is your real motive here?
Why have not one of you asked for a response from the reckless ones supporters?
Their is so much proof its unreal and yet not one time have any of you send one BAD vowel about the stench of Raber.
So is this really about horse or just to attack crediable posters and ruin a form?

Im pretty much done with this answer the abusers questions.

Till you guys want to answer some about the so many lies you seem to be supporting .

 this story is not over and the twisted crap that is the weakest type of camouflage from the truth.

   those that have  supported this chump have a lot at stake and you guys thought Pena was robbing from you nothing at all compared to this.

I just dont get it why never one questioned ever answered by any of you about RAber and constant asking questions and brilliantly answered by Fly and yet you still dont answer one fricking question about Raber.

Im really getting from all this you dont give a crap about things causing the demise of racing and the treatment of horse only give two chits abouta trying to deface those that do. So why do you all have the dont hear dont tell dont see attitude? Because this attitude has certainly done nothing at all for the art of harness racing except to put a few more dollars in some common theifs pocket.

Dave  thier is more proof that can choke an elephant .

Not saying im wrong damn right your not cause you know damn good and well what proof Wendy has and if you have anything to do with them or this situation when the time comes I m hoping you and every one involved gets to Choke their ass up on it plus their damn pocket book. NOW not  saying Im wrong speeks mouths to me . Y


Tell you what show me proof Raber has Done ONE FRICKING THING HONEST and NOT DECEPTIVE.
So quit trying to bait me and give me answers about your friend or is it driver?
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« Reply #464 on: August 09, 2012, 10:10:46 PM »

2nd race at Batavia on the 12th.

10,000$ claim will get you the horse.

$6,000 purse.

Interesting Raber has to go to to Canada almost to race the horse.

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« Reply #465 on: August 09, 2012, 11:27:59 PM »

2nd race at Batavia on the 12th.

10,000$ claim will get you the horse.

$6,000 purse.

Interesting Raber has to go to to Canada almost to race the horse.



Well what the usta turns a blind eye and Ohio racing has turned a blind eye now do u remember me telling u he would get the horses to Canada I thought he would race him their but how far are the slaughter pens from their?
U hav he got a grade horse phony lien sale forged registration now to race a 3 legged horse  all I can say shows a hell of a lot about the sad state of affairs of racing in Ohio to forge papers on a rescue horse from Calexpo  next stop Canada that's where the end to most all Amish sale horse
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« Reply #466 on: August 10, 2012, 12:00:02 AM »

Well what the usta turns a blind eye and Ohio racing has turned a blind eye now do u remember me telling u he would get the horses to Canada I thought he would race him their but how far are the slaughter pens from their?
U hav he got a grade horse phony lien sale forged registration now to race a 3 legged horse  all I can say shows a hell of a lot about the sad state of affairs of racing in Ohio to forge papers on a rescue horse from Calexpo  next stop Canada that's where the end to most all Amish sale horse

Let's just hope the horse gets around the track without injury. That's what's important at this point.
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« Reply #467 on: August 10, 2012, 12:16:48 AM »

Well what the usta turns a blind eye and Ohio racing has turned a blind eye now do u remember me telling u he would get the horses to Canada I thought he would race him their but how far are the slaughter pens from their?
U hav he got a grade horse phony lien sale forged registration now to race a 3 legged horse  all I can say shows a hell of a lot about the sad state of affairs of racing in Ohio to forge papers on a rescue horse from Calexpo  next stop Canada that's where the end to most all Amish sale horse

It is not Canada. It is close though.

I still think he thinks he is going to make money on this equation.
Going to slaughter is the end and you do not get $10,000$ or even purse money on a $6,000 race.

It is interesting Batavia is allowing him to race.
I am going to guess ignorance on their behalf.
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« Reply #468 on: August 10, 2012, 04:59:23 AM »

Contact Batavia Downs

Email: infobd@westernotb.com

Telephone number: 585-343-1423
Batavia Downs
8315 Park Road
Batavia, NY 14020


Telephone number: 585-343-3750


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« Reply #469 on: August 10, 2012, 05:03:41 AM »

I called every number there.
I got Batavia downs security.
The casino  beer beer beer beer


At some point a race secretary or someone involved will answer.

Ask them why a horse has to go to Batavia to race?

Why cant he just stay in Ohio?

I am going to plead ignorance for these people.

Horse shows up and enters....
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« Reply #470 on: August 10, 2012, 05:18:41 AM »

When you contact someone.
Read this.
You read evey word.

When interupted you just read this.
Like Norma Rae you read this to whomever.


Marvin Raber has entered a horse at Batavia Downs named "Four Starz Valley." Mr. Raber was convicted of animal cruelty in the state of NJ in 2010 after he was found responsible for the deaths of over 80 animals. The state of Ohio will not accept his entries for this horse due to the fact that he questionably obtained the animal when the former owner (Wendi Kraslow Wiener - the registered owner with the USTA) retired and adopted the horse out after refracturing a coffin bone in December 2011. After obtaining the horse through non-recognized Amish sales, he qualified the horse in her name and then attempted to pass fraudulent transfer papers to the racing secretary at Northfield Park. A Pleasure Horse designation was placed on the horse to prevent it from being entered again, but Raber placed an illegal lien (there was no contract between Ms. Wiener and himself) and had the horse sold through another Amish sale in Ohio to obtain a bill of sale to transfer the horse into his name. This fight to have the horse surrendered to a rescue organization has been going on for months, and the veterinarian from California that treated the horse after both fractures filed a report with the Ohio Commission stating that the animal was not fit for racing. I know the Board has acted swiftly and fairly against this sort of behavior in the past and I hope both you and Batavia Downs will reconsider allowing to come into our state and race when he was not welcomed to enter in his home state.
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« Reply #471 on: August 10, 2012, 05:57:53 AM »

Contact Batavia Downs

Email: infobd@westernotb.com

Telephone number: 585-343-1423
Batavia Downs
8315 Park Road
Batavia, NY 14020


Telephone number: 585-343-3750



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« Reply #472 on: August 10, 2012, 09:36:26 AM »

You guys could also try the NYS Racing and Wagering Board.
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« Reply #473 on: August 10, 2012, 12:35:03 PM »

You guys could also try the NYS Racing and Wagering Board.
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« Reply #474 on: August 10, 2012, 03:23:03 PM »

Let's just hope the horse gets around the track without injury. That's what's important at this point.
Let's hope and pray and u r right
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