|
zoot
|
 |
« on: May 07, 2012, 02:35:34 PM » |
|
walt paisley's talented 3 yo trotter, riccolo, is back in wed in balmoral's 5th. be interesting to see how good he is
|
|
|
|
|
|
Maymoral
Guest
|
|
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 03:01:24 PM » |
|
He's raced several times already this year.
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 03:22:06 PM » |
|
yes he has. he hasn't been tested and he's in again wed. thats the point
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 08:55:57 PM » |
|
won from way back and 3 wide. really a nice colt could be a top 3yo
|
|
|
|
|
|
oscar r
Guest
|
|
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 11:59:54 PM » |
|
STILL UNTESTED
|
|
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 08:38:00 AM » |
|
I see great things in the future for this colt
It's great to see a humble guy like Paisley and his daughter get one like this at his age.
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 11:22:15 AM » |
|
they just lost cindy, wife and mother. in some little way maybe the colt will take up the slack.
great guy, wonderful for him and great for the racing world full of cheaters and creeps
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pius soho
|
|
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 12:16:14 PM » |
|
I see great things in the future for this colt
It's great to see a humble guy like Paisley and his daughter get one like this at his age.
Great things? really? He's only gotta drop 4+ seconds to be considered a stakes colt  |
|
|
|
|
jdizigg
|
|
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 12:20:32 PM » |
|
Great things? really? He's only gotta drop 4+ seconds to be considered a stakes colt Really Pius, have you not seen his miles? The way he was driven last night he could have won at will at any point. Marcus kept him out of trouble as he leader looked good on the lead, once he was let go he exploded home. Looks like he will make a lot money. |
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 01:07:04 PM » |
|
Great things? really? He's only gotta drop 4+ seconds to be considered a stakes colt i dont know who you are and i rarely deny anyone an opinion, but if you don't see this is a special colt, you dont know much about horses or what youre lookin at. theyve taught this colt the correct thing, come off the gate, relax, follow cover and sprint to the wire. if this colt was raced at the meadowlands and the half went in 56 or 57 he'd trot in 54 or 55 right now. bye the way, the hambo is at the meadowlands and that's not out of the question right now....and he's eligible. he needs to stay sound and some luck but he could be a top top colt |
|
|
|
|
|
Pius soho
|
|
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 02:06:32 PM » |
|
i dont know who you are and i rarely deny anyone an opinion, but if you don't see this is a special colt, you dont know much about horses or what youre lookin at.
theyve taught this colt the correct thing, come off the gate, relax, follow cover and sprint to the wire.
if this colt was raced at the meadowlands and the half went in 56 or 57 he'd trot in 54 or 55 right now.
bye the way, the hambo is at the meadowlands and that's not out of the question right now....and he's eligible. he needs to stay sound and some luck but he could be a top top colt
When he whips up on 'em in .53 I'll agree he is special. I won't specualte on miles ha has not yet gone. I leave that to others. |
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 02:10:05 PM » |
|
Great things? really? He's only gotta drop 4+ seconds to be considered a stakes colt As always thanks Buggyboy for reading all my posts and respoding to them. The horse is already a multiple wining stakes colt. |
|
|
|
|
|
coldpunch
Guest
|
|
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 02:13:21 PM » |
|
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
|
|
|
|
|
|
Blue Chip55
Guest
|
|
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 02:16:50 PM » |
|
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
hard to argue with that |
|
|
|
|
|
jdizigg
|
|
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 02:19:26 PM » |
|
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
Some people are idiots, yes that means you i hate to resort to name calling but he's an illinois bred for gosh sakes. Thats why.. |
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 02:25:02 PM » |
|
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
he's had 5 lifetime starts. walt lives in ill. the colt is ill. bred and eligible fot ill. bred races. goes for 40k in 2 weeks. where and in what races would a genious like you race him  do you think paisley knows a few things about race horses ? if he keeps going,and if he stays sound, he's got the american national and a few other big money stakes and then if he's good enough (and he may be) the hambo in august. |
|
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2012, 02:27:08 PM » |
|
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
Exactly where should an IL bred owned by IL owners start his racing career ? |
|
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2012, 02:44:23 PM » |
|
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
Are you saying Riccolo is not potentially a nice horse like you said about Gibbs who is also racing at Balmoral ? |
|
|
|
|
|
coldpunch
Guest
|
|
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2012, 03:43:52 PM » |
|
calm down all you Windy City sensitive types
my point was --if the horse was considered "good" --he wouldnt be racing @ Balmoral--he would have been sent east to a real trainer for a real campaign vs other east coast horses
that fact that he is an Illinois bred killed those chances before the horse was born
sorry--if you have a good horse--you dont race @ Balmoral for $6k purses--Grand Circuit stuff is another story--but those purses @ Maywood and Balmoral wont even pay your feed bill
|
|
|
|
|
|
Illinois sucks
|
|
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2012, 03:53:04 PM » |
|
Riccolo is a very nice and very well bred horse not because of sire but the
dam has some interesting breeding. Walter so far on the caution side with
his horse after a injury last year. Seems to be fine always the next day or
two after the race. As far as dropping 3 seconds he trotted last week in
56.1 not sure any 3 yr colts are racing in 53.1 yet been watching the PA
circuit since I have a 3 yr old colt racing out there and will be sire stake race
at Chester next Friday. We will get a gauge on were there are time wise.
Right he won't have to prove much here in Illinois because there are very
few good Ill trotters so fractions will be soft and Riccolo will win majority
of those races as long as he is sound. He is a good colt and if Walter
paid the May payment for the Hambo we might see how much of a good colt
he really is.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Illinois sucks
|
|
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2012, 03:59:48 PM » |
|
How fast do you want this 3 yr old to trot in he was hurt in his
3rd start at 1-5 at 2 after trotting in 58.3 second time out.
After 3 starts this year in 56.1 and 57.1 nice last quarters
coming home off the pace I would take him in a second.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pius soho
|
|
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2012, 04:06:19 PM » |
|
As always thanks Buggyboy for reading all my posts and respoding to them.
The horse is already a multiple wining stakes colt.
A 12k stake last out? wow I can see him winning the Futurity already. This puts me on the same page as everybody else. I'll check back with everybody on this.,.trust me. |
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2012, 04:12:54 PM » |
|
calm down all you Windy City sensitive types
my point was --if the horse was considered "good" --he wouldnt be racing @ Balmoral--he would have been sent east to a real trainer for a real campaign vs other east coast horses
that fact that he is an Illinois bred killed those chances before the horse was born
Simillar comments were made about Kadabra early on in his career.
|
|
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2012, 04:17:09 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
coldpunch
Guest
|
|
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2012, 05:15:50 PM » |
|
so far we have seen Googoogaagaa do a 53.3 mile on the 5/8ths and the Simpson is this weekend
most of the top Hambletoian intended trotters dont race until the NJSS races or NYSS in late May , early June--so here ont he east coast there arent nay 3yo trot events available--unless you wanna face older just to get races in
i said nothing disparaging about the times--just about where he is racing--i am well aware that midwestern connections like the Ackermans usually have a Hambletonian prospect almost yearly
but if you are this good--you dont start racing in March or April
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2012, 05:22:18 PM » |
|
BUMP please read:
Re: talented colt back in
« Reply #15 on: Today at 02:25:02 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote Modify messageModify
Quote from: coldpunch on Today at 02:13:21 PM
if he was any good--why would he be racing at balmoral?
answer--hes not that good
he's had 5 lifetime starts. walt lives in ill. the colt is ill. bred and eligible fot ill. bred races. goes for 40k in 2 weeks. where and in what races would a genious like you race him Huh do you think paisley knows a few things about race horses ?
if he keeps going,and if he stays sound, he's got the american national and a few other big money stakes and then if he's good enough (and he may be) the hambo in august.
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2012, 05:35:16 PM » |
|
so far we have seen Googoogaagaa do a 53.3 mile on the 5/8ths and the Simpson is this weekend
most of the top Hambletoian intended trotters dont race until the NJSS races or NYSS in late May , early June--so here ont he east coast there arent nay 3yo trot events available--unless you wanna face older just to get races in
i said nothing disparaging about the times--just about where he is racing--i am well aware that midwestern connections like the Ackermans usually have a Hambletonian prospect almost yearly
but if you are this good--you dont start racing in March or April
he's had a total of 5 lifetime races. he's won 2 12k purses in a breeze. in 2 weeks he's got a 40k final for ill breds in which he'll go off at 2/5. if he wins that he will have almost 40k on his card with great learning and seasoning. he's being taught to race the right way. as i said, a little break then the bigger stakes in ill, then IF AND ONLY IF he stays together and cotinues to improve, the hambo is a very real possibility |
|
|
|
|
|
Pius soho
|
|
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2012, 06:26:59 PM » |
|
Nothing racist to add? Unusual. Wheres the KKK avatar? |
|
|
|
|
NIATROSS
Guest
|
|
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2012, 07:01:22 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Illinois sucks
|
|
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2012, 07:44:41 PM » |
|
As Zoot said coldpunch he is racing in March and April because of being
lightly raced last year due to injury. Also you are right the 3 yr old will
be out next week in PA. we will see how they are, checked out last year
3 yr old races during sires, and only one race at 3 different tracks of a
total of 10 divisions went under 54. That does not count cons. or final
which went above 54. Also looked at 2010 sire races and of the 15 races
in those divisions only 2 races went under 54. With that said Check Me
Out looks to be the star this year.
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2012, 05:58:23 PM » |
|
some real nice 3yo trotters in the 5th at the meadowlands. will be interesting how much they go and if riccolo could compete. we'll see
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2012, 07:29:19 PM » |
|
wow!!!! gooo goooo gaaaa gaaaa 54.1 off a half in 59. very impressive
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2012, 07:20:52 PM » |
|
they couldn't fill an elimination foe 3yo trotting ill breds so they put together a race at balmoral wed night as a prep for ill bred final 40k the following week.
riccolo drew the 10 hole but should be very tuff on these
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2012, 08:50:24 PM » |
|
winner...56 of half in 59. nice colt....hope he stays together for butch
|
|
|
|
|
|
Yimmy
|
|
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2012, 09:00:20 PM » |
|
St Elmo Hero started out in VERY cheap races in Chitown.
|
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2012, 09:06:28 PM » |
|
next week "the cardinal" 40k for ill bred 3yo trotters. then |
|
|
|
|
|
zoot
|
|
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2012, 09:27:37 PM » |
|
absolutely inhaled the field in the cardinal final tonite. still getting better new lifetime mark.
they're bringing this colt along nicely. he will be heard from
|
|
|
|
|
|
