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Author Topic: In Illinois call your state reps and senators...  (Read 17148 times)
honesthorseman
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« on: October 23, 2011, 11:07:19 AM »

and tell them not to back any gaming bill that does not include slots at the track..... the veto session starts tuesday so start calling, faxing and email now




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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 04:31:27 PM »

Not sure that without all of the things  in the old bill ,,a new comprimise bill will not have the votes to pass. But smarter gents are negotiating this one.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 02:59:43 PM »

Contributions from gaming interests to Illinois lawmakers

• Horse racing tracks and others favoring SB744: $335,949
 
• Existing Illinois casinos and casino owners opposed to SB744: $75,451
 
• Total: $411,400
 
Sources • Illinois State Board of Elections; Illinois Campaign for Political Reform; Post-Dispatch analysis


Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c337d34f-e4f4-51bd-a1a1-2a67e150aae3.html#ixzz1bjZViIGk



$335,949   Dasts alot of phone calls   dude   dollar       flag  God Bless America
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2011, 03:14:52 PM »


SUPPORT SB 1849 (Link /Lang)
 
NEW GAMING REVENUES TO FUND EDUCATION AND
CAPITAL PROGRAMS AND TO CREATE AND SAVE JOBS
 
BACKGROUND
 
​Last spring, the General Assembly passed major gaming legislation that the Governor has criticized.  SB1849 incorporates changes recommended by the Governor.  The Illinois Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability in its 2010 report on “Wagering in Illinois” indicates that the “most prominent ideas for improving state revenues include establishing new riverboats near Chicago, increasing the maximum number of gaming positions, and allowing slot machines at racetracks”.  SB 1849 implements this plan.
 
PLAN
New Gaming Positions

Provides for 1 Chicago land-based casino [4,000 gaming positions].

Provides for 4 new riverboats (land-based optional): Danville (Vermillion Co.), Park City (Lake Co.), South Suburban Cook County (Cook Co.) and Rockford (Winnebago Co.) [1,200 gaming positions per facility]. 

Current law authorizes 12,000 gaming positions (1,200 at each of the 10 riverboats).  This bill increases the number of gaming positions at the existing and new riverboats to 1,600. 

All riverboats may become land-based.
 
New Electronic Gaming (“Racino”)

Grants gaming positions to the State’s 6 racetracks (“racinos”) –Each Cook County track (Arlington, Hawthorne, and Maywood) is authorized up to 1,200 positions.  Each track outside Cook County is authorized up to 900 positions (Balmoral, Quad City Downs, and Fairmount). Quad City Downs may implement 350 positions initially but may group to 900 at a later date.  Requires additional dollars to be spent on backstretch workers, university research, State & county fairs, and retired or injured thoroughbred horses, increasespurses by $60 to$80 million per year. 

Provides that racetracks must operate live racing opportunities for horsemen.

Eliminates the casino impact fee; eliminates purse recapture; and eliminates the 10th license subsidy to racing.
 
REVENUES TO THE STATE
 

The Education Assistance Fund is estimated to receive an additional$536M-$785M annually between CY13-CY18. 
Note:  The Education Assistance Fund received $445M in CY08 and $382M in CY09.

The Capital Projects Fund is estimated to receive $68M-$105Mannually between CY13-CY18.

The State’s total annual privilege tax revenues from all facilities (existing and future) are estimated to be between $750M-$969M in CY13-18. 

The State is estimated to receive the following up-front licensing and initial fees ($440M for State debt pay down).

The State is estimated to receive the following reconciliation payments within 5-7 years after gaming positions become operational ($970M for State debt pay down).

Creates Future of Agriculture Fund for new funding of county fairs, 4-H and FFA programs, soil and water conservation, forestry and parks. $25M will be spent annually for these agribusiness programs from taxes from electronic gaming.

Authorizes funds to rebuild Illinois State fairgrounds.
 
JOBS
 
The proposal would create an estimated 1,200 to 1,500 new permanent jobs at the racetracks and an estimated $200 million to $400 million capital investment at these tracks, which would supporthundreds of trade organization jobs to construct new facilities or remodel the racetracks to operate electronic gaming.  In addition, new casinos will serve as an economic development engine for Illinois, expand our tourism and hospitality industries, and provide 1,000’s of new jobs for Illinois.  The proposal would support the state’s historic horse racing industry and stem the loss of racing jobs to other states.
 
SUPPORTED BY
 
Illinois Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association
Arlington Park Racecourse
Illinois AFL-CIO
Illinois Harness Horsemen’s Association
Balmoral Park Racetrack
Chicago & Cook County Building & Construction Trades Council
Illinois Horsemen's Benevolent
Protective Association
Fairmount Park Racetrack
 
 
Hawthorne Race Course
Teamsters Joint Council 25
Illinois Standardbred Owners &
Breeders Association
Maywood Park Racetrack
Operating Engineers Local 399
 
Quad City Downs Racecourse
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 134
Illinois Thoroughbred Breeders &
Owners Foundation
 
Service Employees International Union Local 1
 
City of Chicago
UniteHere! Local 450
Chicago Southland Chamber of Commerce
City of Rockford
Illinois Association of Agricultural Fairs
Illinois Hotel and Lodging Association
City of Danville
Treasurers and Ticket Sellers Union – Local No. 750
Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce
Park City
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 08:00:37 AM »

Old news
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 04:00:04 PM »

WE GOT PLAYED BEFORE,,,,NOT THIS TIME ,,,


YOU DO IT,,,,AND LET US KNOW HOW IT CAME OUT.....
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 02:03:37 PM »


You of all people should be for this especially with your trainer being on the IHHA Board trotter

WE GOT PLAYED BEFORE,,,,NOT THIS TIME ,,,


YOU DO IT,,,,AND LET US KNOW HOW IT CAME OUT.....

I called and got through to someone , I voiced my choice to accept SB1849
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 03:00:51 PM »

You of all people should be for this especially with your trainer being on the IHHA Board trotter



 WHATS THAT GONNA CHANGE,,,, SO WHAT MY TRAINER ON THE BOARD,,,

 YES WE ALL WANT SLOTS,,,BUT MY POINT IS WE ARE BEING PLAYED ,,AGAIN AND AGAIN....

 I;VE HAD ENOUGH ,,LAST GO AROUND I HELPED TIRELESSLY ,,,NO MORE NOT THIS TIME,,,,,

HOW DOES THAT SAYING GO,,,,,,,I GOT IT



SHAME YOU ONCE ,,SHAME ON ME TWICE........
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 05:11:10 PM »

Fool me once shame on you - fool me twice shame on me

Do you talk like you type?
I hope the all caps and grammar is just for entertainment purposes.
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 06:40:19 PM »

Slots have brought in guys like PENA, BURKE, COLEMAN, AALARD, BERKELY, AND 50 OTHERS TO POCONO AND CREATED THE UGLIEST SCENE EVER IN RACING.   This is a good site but having this topic as a pinned topic is wrong to me.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 10:38:27 AM »

Slots have brought in guys like PENA, BURKE, COLEMAN, AALARD, BERKELY, AND 50 OTHERS TO POCONO AND CREATED THE UGLIEST SCENE EVER IN RACING.   This is a good site but having this topic as a pinned topic is wrong to me.
Illinois racing needs slots for it's continued survival. It is a very important issue in Illinois, and Illinois horsemen are working hard to make it a reality. 

I understand your concern, but I hope Illinois learns from the mistakes of other states and doesn't repeat them here.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 11:54:22 AM »

So they do very little right now and people that do very little right will then start doing it right when betting dollars are not needed,,,, When has that formula worked and at what track.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 12:53:53 PM »

So they do very little right now and people that do very little right will then start doing it right when betting dollars are not needed,,,, When has that formula worked and at what track.
The gaming bill contains language for increased funding for testing, though your point is well taken.

This may be a case where it's better being late to the table than early.  There have been a lot of mistakes made by state legislatures as well as horsemen's groups around the country.  We've learned from those mistakes and have written the bill to prevent them.

Time will tell.  But I can tell you this: Without slots Illinois racing will cease to exist as we know it.  That may not be important to people in other parts of the country, but it sure as hell is important here.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 01:06:51 PM »

I claimed many horses when we got Sarp here in Ontario and vet bills shot to the moon and a whole slew of new young chemists arrived and took over and 8 way shakes turned into two way shakes and then it became trainers claiming for themselves as no owners could make money and now we have hope as Sarp is finished and the game here can move forward and I can tell you as a former owner and lifetime gambler I will never stop writing to people across Canada and the US to let them no the truth about the slots at racetracks program as the real truth about it is that the cheaters get rich and no one else.  I asked you were it works and your answer is that of a fairy tale ,  We lived happily ever after the end.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 01:26:00 PM »

I asked you were it works and your answer is that of a fairy tale ,  We lived happily ever after the end.
No.  My answer to your question was this:

This may be a case where it's better being late to the table than early.  There have been a lot of mistakes made by state legislatures as well as horsemen's groups around the country.  We've learned from those mistakes and have written the bill to prevent them.

Time will tell.  But I can tell you this: Without slots Illinois racing will cease to exist as we know it.  That may not be important to people in other parts of the country, but it sure as hell is important here.


I understand your point.  Please try to understand mine.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 01:49:44 PM »

If change is to be made then make it now but like I did here in Ontario by informing government people about the truths of slots and getting others to do the same i will do everywhere and i will fight with all my breath to inform any government people that i can that this welfare problem must not go on because it does not WORK. Illinois seems to understand the problem and i have let them know what a great job they have done by making racetracks be accountable for their product and if it is to die its because the regime that runs it is out of touch and that seems to be the case.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2013, 05:26:00 PM »

The reason it doesn't work is because the guys who fight for it r kicked to the curb .

But by not having slots does is going to keep Pens Allard Bukes ColemanTasconiand Berkleys away cause the purses r to cheap??

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 12:24:22 AM »

I have read many of Old and Slows post and really believe that this is a good man as my heart tells me but my heart also tells me that slots wont help this game and I really do believe from reading him that he loves racing and at one point so did I as I traveled everywhere to watch the great ones and today I rarely travel 90 minutes to Mohawk.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 10:31:11 AM »

I have read many of Old and Slows post and really believe that this is a good man as my heart tells me but my heart also tells me that slots wont help this game and I really do believe from reading him that he loves racing and at one point so did I as I traveled everywhere to watch the great ones and today I rarely travel 90 minutes to Mohawk.
First, rrrracing, thanks for the kind words.  I have a deep respect for racing, the horsemen and the horses.

Philosophically, I agree with your thoughts.  Growing up, my Dad taught my brothers and me the importance of "paddling your own canoe", meaning bust your ass to make your own way and don't depend on anyone else to do it for you.  Wise words.

A slot subsidy is in some ways letting someone else paddle your canoe.  It's not the way it should be. But unfortunately it's the way it is.

I've always felt that slot revenue should be viewed as a short term bandaid and not a long term fix, because it is not.

The time granted and the revenue generated should be used in some measure to attract a new generation of fans.  Most tracks give no thought to marketing racing.  If they won't do it it falls on horsemen to do the heavy lifting.  Some of the slot money should be earmarked for marketing, advertising and promotions.  That way when the slot money is taken away, racing is back to paddling it's own canoe, and healthier than before.
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