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Author Topic: Jeff Gural, The Truth Behind The Man !!!!  (Read 2227 times)
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« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2015, 01:57:40 PM »

Gural has actually done something about juicers... who else in the sport really has?

But, more importantly... has anyone ever seen him in the same room with Len Berman?


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« Reply #126 on: April 26, 2015, 05:34:16 PM »

He sure has done something with the juicers, he hired them to train his own horses.
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« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2015, 06:28:30 PM »

Yeah yeah... yet you still *bet* this track, despite Gural having a piece of some horse trained by Ron Burke, evil manipulation of the morning lines by Taryn Zucchini, and supposed unending terrible drives by Scott Zeron and Andy Miller, even though by now theoretically no one would be using them any more.

"The food here is poison, and in SUCH SMALL PORTIONS!"  Wink
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« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2015, 08:12:37 PM »

I do bet the meadowlands. like everyone else, we grew to love it before Gural and deal with it now as its all we have left. Unfortunately, the new management team does nothing but annoy a ton of people, me included

the litmus test is this week. If Mr Integrity doesnt ban Bongiorno, his bullshit will be exposed to everyone, even his most loyal fans and the integrity mantra will be finished
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« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2015, 09:39:42 PM »

They've made some serious errors, but probably the main error was one of enthusiasm, they tried to resurrect a game which now has little popular appeal and less of a genuine following.  So be it. 
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« Reply #130 on: Today at 06:30:54 AM »

I do bet the meadowlands. like everyone else, we grew to love it before Gural and deal with it now as its all we have left. Unfortunately, the new management team does nothing but annoy a ton of people, me included

the litmus test is this week. If Mr Integrity doesnt ban Bongiorno, his bullshit will be exposed to everyone, even his most loyal fans and the integrity mantra will be finished

It must be nice to have parents with money, like little Joey does, because I can't think of another reason, other than some parental "juice," for why that jerkoff is still allowed to drive there.
He is a serious danger to those other guys, some of whom are also questionable, ability wise (Hello Steve Smith).
Did little Joey cut his teeth at Monticello and if not, he should have.
Put him on a track with a collection of other piss poor drivers, learn what NOT to do, then move up. Or is the Meadowlands not considered a move up?
Billy Parker could teach him how to win 8000 races against corpses..
Really, I've never had quite the same comments about another driver before. And I've seen a lot of incompetent drivers at M1, but I didn't think most of them were dangerous. Simply untalented..
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« Reply #131 on: Today at 08:03:01 AM »

They've made some serious errors, but probably the main error was one of enthusiasm, they tried to resurrect a game which now has little popular appeal and less of a genuine following.  So be it. 
I agree.  "Traditional" horse players want the status quo.  They want to be left in a quiet room smoking cigars, making their wagers and being rewarded for their play.  They don't want young people at the track, or families, or night clubs in the same facility.  They want big pools to wager into not .20 pick fours.  They don't care who is drugging as long as it's everyone or no one.  Ok, I get some of that, but the status quo is a DEAD SPORT.  What happens when the 50 people on here who are offended by Jeff die off?  He has made mistakes but how do you not applaud the one guy in the entire sport who made an effort?  That will teach him.  I myself have given up on harness racing but it has nothing to do with Jeff Gural.  I hope the sport survives but I'm way less than confident.
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« Reply #132 on: Today at 08:24:35 AM »

I agree.  "Traditional" horse players want the status quo.  They want to be left in a quiet room smoking cigars, making their wagers and being rewarded for their play.  They don't want young people at the track, or families, or night clubs in the same facility.  They want big pools to wager into not .20 pick fours.  They don't care who is drugging as long as it's everyone or no one.  Ok, I get some of that, but the status quo is a DEAD SPORT.  What happens when the 50 people on here who are offended by Jeff die off?  He has made mistakes but how do you not applaud the one guy in the entire sport who made an effort?  That will teach him.  I myself have given up on harness racing but it has nothing to do with Jeff Gural.  I hope the sport survives but I'm way less than confident.

Minus the cigars you just described me. The drugging should be in the program so we know who's using what and we can compare how they run with or without the aid. I haven't given up
and I do think it will survive but just won't be anything we all remember it was in the 70's and 80's. The racing community should utilize the power of the internet and focus on building their player base from there.
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