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« on: August 10, 2011, 12:41:21 PM »

Ya think if you're gonna spend 10 minutes telling us why you didn't dq a horse you'd take another 10 minutes and invest in a thought of how to get these pathetic shlub of mutual pools UP!  Head to head with Monticello today they offer more exotics and have more in their overall pools.  Shame, shame you should feel, you have huge purses, some of the best horses, trainers and drivers across 4+ states and this is what WE get.  Take the purses down 10% and make some better guarantees in p4's or something, better yet don't punish the horsemen use the salary of the idiot in charge of marketing there........who ever is getting paid there to keep that place competitive must be working double duty in D.C.....

Bud Light presents the worst marketing executive in harness racing here's to you....... rat
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2011, 01:26:41 PM »

This is interesting.

Have we ever said HC cares about racing?

Go put some money in a slot machine.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 01:45:06 PM »

This is interesting.

Have we ever said HC cares about racing?

Go put some money in a slot machine.

Listen shemkelpuss I'm crushing them today just had the 10th exacta along with 7 others (one pd 4.20 and another over 5), i don't want to chase coin and cougar at the slots, btw the casino is in a 2nd quarter loss they blow...
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 02:03:33 PM »

Maybe Harrah's Chester thinks you suck?
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 02:07:28 PM »

Maybe Harrah's Chester thinks you suck?

I would say i agree but i don't thing there is much thinking going on there
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 02:08:05 PM »

Listen shemkelpuss I'm crushing them today just had the 10th exacta along with 7 others (one pd 4.20 and another over 5), i don't want to chase coin and cougar at the slots, btw the casino is in a 2nd quarter loss they blow...

They have to have Keno there or a lottery.
There cant be anything with less of a payout for you.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 02:11:55 PM »

And how about that *airplane food?*  And what's up with this "Agnew" guy?
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 02:13:58 PM »

They have to have Keno there or a lottery.
There cant be anything with less of a payout for you.

Since you chose to mediate I'll signal you if i'm gonna reach over the table and strangle them as so you don't get hurt
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 02:17:07 PM »

I do wish it was more desirable to bet there, because I do enjoy the racing.  Good horses, and drivers, oh well at least it breaks up the day with some afternoon racing to watch!
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 02:20:54 PM »

I do wish it was more desirable to bet there, because I do enjoy the racing.  Good horses, and drivers, oh well at least it breaks up the day with some afternoon racing to watch!
i agree might as well be non betting races - the guy doing the morning line is awesome, "acts" as if he hasn't a clue
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 02:41:02 PM »

i agree might as well be non betting races - the guy doing the morning line is awesome, "acts" as if he hasn't a clue

Yea, I enjoy comparing the m/l odds to the off odds, amazing that you watch races everyday and can be that clueless.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 02:45:57 PM »

Yea, I enjoy comparing the m/l odds to the off odds, amazing that you watch races everyday and can be that clueless.


I'll give Mc William a twirl in race 14 see how that goes.....
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 03:03:27 PM »

Takeout rates in PA suck, any bettor would be better off going to play coverall bingo games with ***.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 03:15:23 PM »

Takeout rates in PA suck, any bettor would be better off going to play coverall bingo games with ***.

when someone other than a horsemen, owner show up there for live racing management must say "what do they want?"

mc william up the track last, good news you could take refunds after race went off ie. off at 15-1 final odds 33-1, lol
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 03:18:30 PM »

I do wish it was more desirable to bet there, because I do enjoy the racing.  Good horses, and drivers, oh well at least it breaks up the day with some afternoon racing to watch!

i read your bs on other blogs how pena is awful and yonkers designed 1 1/16 races to make him lose or to detour him, are you nuts pena wasn't born when yonkers started that, you have a pathetic knowledge of racing regarding this situation, possibly overall.......but the world needs fools too so rattle away...if you want i can find your quote and bring it here?  Even the pena haters would think you are a ***, lmfao....
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2011, 03:23:24 PM »

How is the mile and 1/16th supposed to hurt Pena?
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2011, 03:33:10 PM »

How is the mile and 1/16th supposed to hurt Pena?

FredJones wrote this on another blog today at 3:12pm - he is a clueless soul

Joe
Let me start off with, I think Pena has been horrible for harness racing, he has turned Yonkers into an absolute joke and no matter what actions they tried to take, (1 and 1/16 mile, new conditions) it didn't matter he still won, until they finally had to kick him out.  Now I'm not naive enough to believe he's not using something but I kinda got mixed emotions on it.  Why can't they figure it out, it seems from what I read they are investing time and money to but they come back empty.
I also don't believe there are any full-time trainers(not the hobby guys) that don't use some sort of pre race, it's just the name of the game now a days.  Keep up with the times or get forced out.  I use to use a typewriter, but you don't see me lugging that around anymore.  You have to adapt.
I don't know what the answer is but I don't think it is the drivers responsibility to police the trainers he drives for.  I do see your point and obviously you care about the sport or else you wouldn't be so passionate.  So for now we will agree to disagree, or at least I will.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2011, 05:44:23 PM »

The mile and 1/16th distance wasn't to stop Pena.
If anything it helped him.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 06:08:42 PM »

The mile and 1/16th distance wasn't to stop Pena.
If anything it helped him.

glad he's on your side, lol,  anything real goes in these forums but wishing a FredJones on the side of an opponent is a low blow, for that Janine might toss me

Pena predictions - within 3 weeks he'll back at Yonkers quietly, Yonkers will offer no information (possibly say "they cannot speak on an ongoing litigation, you understand", a few days later Yonkers will direct you to speak with Pena directly, a few days after that you'll be provided a vm for Pena.......and so they come they go come again leave again.....and they'll all be rolling in dough and we'll be clueless with new material
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2011, 06:13:01 PM »

shemklepuss  [ What is that?
More colorful than a care package Amilda Marcos.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2011, 06:41:09 PM »

glad he's on your side, lol,  anything real goes in these forums but wishing a FredJones on the side of an opponent is a low blow, for that Janine might toss me

Pena predictions - within 3 weeks he'll back at Yonkers quietly, Yonkers will offer no information (possibly say "they cannot speak on an ongoing litigation, you understand", a few days later Yonkers will direct you to speak with Pena directly, a few days after that you'll be provided a vm for Pena.......and so they come they go come again leave again.....and they'll all be rolling in dough and we'll be clueless with new material
I doubt it.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 07:05:08 PM »

I doubt it.

which part or maybe this part how's this - 4 state attorney generals and the fbi have been contacted and the tracks will fold their hand, race track officials telling the guy to not win and slow it down, what did you think that was gonna disappear like a fart in the wind - all any of these people care about is money this will all go away
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2011, 07:10:48 PM »

which part or maybe this part how's this - 4 state attorney generals and the fbi have been contacted and the tracks will fold their hand, race track officials telling the guy to not win and slow it down, what did you think that was gonna disappear like a fart in the wind - all any of these people care about is money this will all go away

If that is the case then those employee's will likely be the one folded as they are either relieved of their duties or possibly charged with a crime.

That will not change the fact that a private property owner has asked Pena to not frequent his track.   The track can bar anyone, you, me, him, ANYONE.   
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2011, 07:12:10 PM »

DNFTT
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2011, 07:20:02 PM »

If that is the case then those employee's will likely be the one folded as they are either relieved of their duties or possibly charged with a crime.

That will not change the fact that a private property owner has asked Pena to not frequent his track.   The track can bar anyone, you, me, him, ANYONE.   

nobody bars me i get the best cash back from the comfort of my home, when i would have a horse in the derby, yeh that's gonna happen, if it did i'll be there otherwise......it's about leverage jj sure they can do this or that, but when the fbi says you wanna work this out or we can investigate, hell if i was a slot player and fbi agents were interviewing employees i'd take my business elsewhere - it's public, it's happening, it's moving to a different playing field, don't believe me ok....
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2011, 07:40:00 PM »

Not me I would ask the Fbi if it is okay if I play this guys machine while they are interviewing him.Why should I leave my nickles are as good as they guy they want to talk too.
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2011, 07:54:28 PM »

Not me I would ask the Fbi if it is okay if I play this guys machine while they are interviewing him.Why should I leave my nickles are as good as they guy they want to talk too.

racinos don't care about the post, or any media for that matter, when there is an active investigation challenging integrity it spills over into extraneous business, their are owners, shareholders, the state - then congress can say hey come down to washington for a hearing, richard dutrow big mouth slut pulled that shit, then hid now he's ostracized and under the microscope......pena is not hiding there's gonna be trouble this is gonna get fun - and then end quickly
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2011, 06:22:09 AM »

Fozzy,
Sorry if my rambling offends you, so I will try to keep it short and sweet.  I know the 1 mile and 1/16 has been around for a while but never seemed to last.  Maybe I am wrong b/c I don't know the race office at Yonkers.  I thought that the 1 1/16 was in part to get more action and give rallying horses more of a shot. Thus the 3/5 pena horses that always seem to make the front with ease would have more of a challenge.  I agree it did nothing b/c I think penas horses could go 2 miles, heck they can't hardly pull them up.  As for my marriage with McElwyns I am pretty sure it's still not legal in my state but maybe I am in luck maybe he's from Yonkers.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2011, 07:53:36 AM »

Unlike so many here, Fred actually knows something about harness racing. 

So, natch, he gets attacked by trolls.
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2011, 07:55:17 AM »

Unlike so many here, Fred actually knows something about harness racing. 

So, natch, he gets attacked by trolls.

TC I mean MD
really talking about trolls?
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2011, 08:03:09 AM »

Yes, I'm quite the troll... you've really hit the target on that one, and of course I am "TC" and 5 million other posters I never heard of, I'm sure you very much read whatever's posted here which has nothing to do with you, bien sur.
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2011, 10:49:54 AM »

Fozzy,
Sorry if my rambling offends you, so I will try to keep it short and sweet.  I know the 1 mile and 1/16 has been around for a while but never seemed to last.  Maybe I am wrong b/c I don't know the race office at Yonkers.  I thought that the 1 1/16 was in part to get more action and give rallying horses more of a shot. Thus the 3/5 pena horses that always seem to make the front with ease would have more of a challenge.  I agree it did nothing b/c I think penas horses could go 2 miles, heck they can't hardly pull them up.  As for my marriage with McElwyns I am pretty sure it's still not legal in my state but maybe I am in luck maybe he's from Yonkers.

We're good Fred, I'm leveling off from my drama, all these attacks back and forth, good work on the sulkys wish we can take all our data, work together and hit big numbers consistently
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2011, 01:45:16 PM »

Sounds good to me fozzy, we were always good as far as I am concerned.  What fun would it be if everyone had the same opinions.  Good luck tonight, hope you score!
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2011, 01:53:48 PM »

Sounds good to me fozzy, we were always good as far as I am concerned.  What fun would it be if everyone had the same opinions.  Good luck tonight, hope you score!
Thanks, you 2
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2011, 02:37:30 PM »

Takeout rates in PA suck, any bettor would be better off going to play coverall bingo games with ***.
Other than the tri takeout everything else in Pa. is the same as other tracks
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2011, 03:23:33 PM »

And that's how it goes folks we start out with the topic and have unmiraculously gone off point, wandered outside the galaxy, universe.....still it was fun or was it...we all have a.d.d. apparently
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2011, 04:26:30 PM »

Other than the tri takeout everything else in Pa. is the same as other tracks

I only compared 2 tracks (CD and The Meds) vs PA and only compared  WPS EX TRIS AND P4'S and found
You are WRONG on every count.
PA also has a 30% takeout on Supers.

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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2011, 05:32:30 PM »


You are WRONG on every count.
PA also has a 30% takeout on Supers.

 
20% Meadows 25% Pocono  20% Chester compared to Woodbine 28.7  Mohawk 26.3 %  Meadowlands 25% Balmoral/Maywood 25%
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2011, 06:07:21 PM »

20% Meadows 25% Pocono  20% Chester

First off learn how to read what I post and what you responded.
hanaplayersassociation.org and sportsbettingacumen.com both show takeout rates on supers at Penn National and Phil Park at 30% and both are in PA.
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2011, 06:08:53 PM »

20% Meadows 25% Pocono  20% Chester compared to Woodbine 28.7  Mohawk 26.3 %  Meadowlands 25% Balmoral/Maywood 25%

CHURCHILL DOWNS 19%  MEADOWLANDS 15%
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2011, 07:10:42 PM »

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CHURCHILL DOWNS 19%  MEADOWLANDS 15%
What does Churchill have anything to do with this? And the last time I looked in the Meadowlands program it was 25% so they must have lowered it recently.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2011, 07:27:11 PM »

I just looked and they did lower it last year from 25% to 15%
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2011, 07:29:53 PM »

Other than the tri takeout everything else in Pa. is the same as other tracks

I said the the takeout in PA sucks.You responded with the above post.

Does Churchill have a lower takeout on all wagers or not ?
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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2011, 07:32:17 PM »

I just looked and they did lower it last year from 25% to 15%

Now your next post should read,

I was wrong about the rates and the takeout rates in PA do indeed suck !
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2011, 07:36:37 PM »

Now your next post should read,

I was wrong about the rates and the takeout rates in PA do indeed suck !

You never miss gloating do you?  That is why you are hated by the majority.
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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2011, 07:51:36 PM »

You never miss gloating do you?  That is why you are hated by the majority.

Being hated by you and your kind is a blessing.

Your post earlier today admitting you lie about Burton because you say he lies about you is my favorite.
I can go the rest of my life and never be right about anything else and still be happy knowing what a liar you are.
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« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2011, 07:54:20 PM »

You never miss gloating do you?  That is why you are hated by the majority.
boy you ain't kidding .....for a second I thought we were on a harness forum  doh love how he changes it around after he gets proved wrong.
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« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2011, 08:01:59 PM »

I only compared 2 tracks (CD and The Meds) vs PA and only compared  WPS EX TRIS AND P4'S and found
You are WRONG on every count.
PA also has a 30% takeout on Supers.


And where is your post only comparing CD and the Meadowlands to Pa tracks?and you are wrong about the 30%. So quit trying to twist it to make yourself look good. It's my fault I should have posted about the same as other harness tracks
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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2011, 08:05:55 PM »

boy you ain't kidding .....for a second I thought we were on a harness forum  doh love how he changes it around after he gets proved wrong.

I see you also are like *** who has a problem admitting when wrong.
Go back and read my original post
It said the takeout rates in PA suck.You come back and say other than tris the rates are the same as other tracks.
Then you realize you were wrong about Meds rate and start crying about this being a harness forum.
It mush be easier than admitting you were wrong.


 screwy screwy screwy screwy
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« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2011, 08:09:02 PM »

I only compared 2 tracks (CD and The Meds) vs PA and only compared  WPS EX TRIS AND P4'S and found
You are WRONG on every count.
PA also has a 30% takeout on Supers.

Did you not see the CD and Meds in paratheses comments ?
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« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2011, 08:10:49 PM »

And where is your post only comparing CD and the Meadowlands to Pa tracks?and you are wrong about the 30%. So quit trying to twist it to make yourself look good. It's my fault I should have posted about the same as other harness tracks

The links I used show 30% takeout rates on supers for 2 PA tbred tracks.
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