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« on: July 24, 2016, 05:23:37 PM »

She is the best 3 year old in the world...male or female.
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 05:26:15 PM »

Very impressive.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 08:06:33 PM »

It is an underwhelming crop of 3yo fillies this year, and I doubt she can beat the top 3yo stakes males.  So she beat a 5-horse field on a basically open lead in underwhelming time, with NW3 and NW2 eligibles taking minor honors.  Puh-leeze.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 07:25:55 AM »

I am with Yimmy.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2016, 11:04:44 AM »

Unless she takes on some better opponents, she risks becoming another Zenyatta.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2016, 11:11:44 AM »

The turf fillies are probably a bit more exciting and competitive.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 12:33:09 PM »

Unless she takes on some better opponents, she risks becoming another Zenyatta.

My point exactly...the best ever.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 12:37:40 PM »

It is an underwhelming crop of 3yo fillies this year, and I doubt she can beat the top 3yo stakes males.  So she beat a 5-horse field on a basically open lead in underwhelming time, with NW3 and NW2 eligibles taking minor honors.  Puh-leeze.

Why don't you tell me which 3 year old do you think is better? Open lead? She was headed in the turn and at the top of the stretch by a classy filly and succeeded at Saratoga...the graveyard of champions. The good news is we will find out who is right.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 01:05:24 PM »

When she steps up and beats at least G1 males in this country I will refrain from calling her the best 3yo in the world
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 01:25:07 PM »

I will stick with Harzand at this point as  the best 3yo in the world.Winner of the English and Irish Derbies is being pointed to The Arc
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 01:30:01 PM »

When she steps up and beats at least G1 males in this country I will refrain from calling her the best 3yo in the world

I can wait until that happens...but just wanted to offer my opinion.  beer
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 04:32:36 PM »

Why don't you tell me which 3 year old do you think is better? Open lead? She was headed in the turn and at the top of the stretch by a classy filly and succeeded at Saratoga...the graveyard of champions. The good news is we will find out who is right.

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 12:23:17 AM »

When they run we will make a wager. She will beat them like yard dogs.  beer
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« Reply #13 on: Today at 07:35:26 AM »

I will stick with Harzand at this point as  the best 3yo in the world.Winner of the English and Irish Derbies is being pointed to The Arc

Solid pick!
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« Reply #14 on: Today at 07:46:46 AM »

When they run we will make a wager. She will beat them like yard dogs.  beer

File under "internet dick-wagging."
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« Reply #15 on: Today at 07:55:49 AM »

I figured a clown like you wouldn't back up his ridiculous comments...lol beer
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« Reply #16 on: Today at 02:00:00 PM »

The accepted BTW usage is "ass clown" (sometimes one word), but, to put it mildly, the use of that kiddie epithet says infinitely more about the user than it does about the target.  Perhaps you should read some other posts on the board.  Or not.
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« Reply #17 on: Today at 04:01:54 PM »

It is an underwhelming crop of 3yo fillies this year, and I doubt she can beat the top 3yo stakes males.  So she beat a 5-horse field on a basically open lead in underwhelming time, with NW3 and NW2 eligibles taking minor honors.  Puh-leeze.
its hard to please everyone. stay in California, you are ducking the competition. ship to Saratoga and win a  ny filly triple crown race and its a weak crop. give me a break. shes never had a horse finish in front of her on either coast. shes a breeders cup winner.  what are you guys watching?
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« Reply #18 on: Today at 04:53:08 PM »

Actually, I made no comment on her staying in California at all.   

 Huh

Swoop, you know how I feel about the Golden Receiver types that go to the front in short fields and win week after week at 1-5.  Perhaps there are people out there who actually, yes, *bask in the horse's reflected glory*, a la Renton.  I do not.  I have no connection, emotional or otherwise, to that particular horse, and to me, that was just another race to pass with a predictable 1-5 winner.  You know what a profusion of these superchalks has done to harness racing.  If you want to see what it's done on the t-bred side, just look at the charts from the inner-dirt track during the winter Aqueduct meet.

At least Ruffian paid 4-1 as a firster...
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« Reply #19 on: Today at 08:52:30 PM »

the argument against zenyatta was always that she very rarely left California.  argument against this filly is the competition.  I cant see knocking perfection. did ruffian ever leave ny? I don't remember her getting knocked for it. she won her first ten by an average of 8 and a half. I don't remember anybody saying the fields were  no good. she was the epitome of speed but yet you don't like golden receiver types. Why  the knock on perfection now?
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« Reply #20 on: Today at 09:16:59 PM »

I say this with love, Swoop; I think I answered your question.  The stuff about staying here or there does not come from me; it's someone else's argument.  And the crop *is* undeniably weak... a 5 horse field (and Marialice Coffey) in a G1?
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« Reply #21 on: Today at 09:40:33 PM »

I know the zenyatta thing is not your argument. my point is she was perfect. songbird is perfect. not perfect againxt new mexico breds but perfect against the best of her generation. I know what it takes to win one in a row. to win against the best every time takes a special horse. if you cant see whats in front of you then I cant help you. Ok, your right she just beat up on a cheap field in slow time.  I got a feeling new Yorkers will protect ruffians legend at all cost. that's ok. I got more respect for that then knocking a fiilly with a resume like songbird.
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