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Author Topic: Sam .. Money Talks BS Walks  (Read 2946 times)
Incredible Shadow
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« on: May 24, 2011, 12:23:26 AM »

This is a copy of a post I made in the Selections section in response to Sam claiming to have made a large place bet on See You At Peelers.

Harry, you seem like an upstanding guy who tells the truth here. Usually I wouldn't jump into a topic that doesnt involve me, but enough is enough with this guys BS on claiming to make huge wagers on horses. Its time for him to face the music that he is full of crap. The pool was $6,550 and 4 grand of it was mine.

This was my wager on See You At Peelers Sunday at Tioga and it was wagered with HPI in Canada. I received no points for this wager and do not get a rebate as it is a $2.10 payoff. I made $200 for my wager.

05/22/2011  3:04:56 PM (EDT)  Bet  Tioga, Race 6, $4000.00 PLC 3  $200.00  $4200.00  02787456718510  

This is a snapshot of the pools off of HPI website

Pgm # Horse Win Odds Win Pool % Place Pool % Show Pool %  

1 Miss Annie J  25  $120  3.0  $96  1.3  $0    
2 Swinging Beauty  19  $162  4.1  $151  2.0  $0    
3 See You At Peelers  1/9  $2,862  72.0  $6,550  88.7  $0    
4 Character Flaw  4  $643  16.2  $307  4.2  $0    
5 Sight to See  80  $41  1.0  $50  0.7  $0    
6 Jk Geronimo  99  $27  0.7  $50  0.7  $0    
7 Whats New ***ycat  40  $82  2.1  $128  1.7  $0    
8 Winbak Corazon  90  $34  0.9  $50  0.7  $0    
  Pool Totals   $3,975    $7,384    $0
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 06:29:57 AM »

Thanks for sharing Shadow. This comes as no surprise. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 06:30:23 AM »

no rebate you are betting in the wrong place  private me and i will give you the sites to get rebates  you are losing money
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 06:48:00 AM »

Date Serial # Description Amount Selection Total Type Credit Amt Refund Amt Result
05/22/2011 06:26:31  90778732496463  Saratoga Harness 1 $500.00  3  $500.00  Win  $525.00    W 
05/22/2011 09:28:13    Rewards for 05/21/2011     $48.00  Account adjustment       
05/22/2011 09:40:44  84243685382240  Tioga Downs 1 $2.00  2  $2.00  Show  $0.00  $2.00  C 
05/22/2011 14:42:21  64612698027382  Tioga Downs 6 $1000.00  3  $1000.00  Place  $550.00    W 
05/22/2011 14:55:15  60322114684503  Tioga Downs 6 $1000.00  3  $1000.00  Place  $550.00    W 
05/22/2011 15:14:35  10396382640046  Scioto Downs 8 $400.00  1  $400.00  Show  $420.00    W 
05/23/2011 09:22:45 


okay one of my several accounts
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 06:49:39 AM »

keep trying  i have been here for 5 yrs you are here for one minute  there is always someone trying to catch me   
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 07:08:45 AM »

is this niatroll under a new account laughing guy laughing guy
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 07:14:49 AM »

is this niatroll under a new account laughing guy laughing guy
HE IS A TROLL
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2011, 07:21:56 AM »

and i have account numbers   nice try
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 07:24:33 AM »

and i have account numbers   nice try
MACDADDI!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2011, 10:07:00 AM »

To the few of you from the peanut gallery that worships this idiot who is so full of crap, here are some more facts that expose him to be what he really is, a compulsive liar.

These are your wagers that he claims to have made.

05/22/2011 06:26:31  90778732496463  Saratoga Harness 1 $500.00  3  $500.00  Win  $525.00    W  
05/22/2011 09:28:13    Rewards for 05/21/2011     $48.00  Account adjustment        
05/22/2011 09:40:44  84243685382240  Tioga Downs 1 $2.00  2  $2.00  Show  $0.00  $2.00  C  
05/22/2011 14:42:21  64612698027382  Tioga Downs 6 $1000.00  3  $1000.00  Place  $550.00    W  
05/22/2011 14:55:15  60322114684503  Tioga Downs 6 $1000.00  3  $1000.00  Place  $550.00    W  
05/22/2011 15:14:35  10396382640046  Scioto Downs 8 $400.00  1  $400.00  Show  $420.00    W  
05/23/2011 09:22:45

 We are supposed to believe that at 6:26 AM he wagered $500 to win on Lorenzos Dream in the first race at Saratoga. What site is open for betting at that time? Secondly, he claims in many posts to always wait until the last minute to bet, what guy bets at 6:26AM on a race at 1:30PM after he claims in numerous posts that he waits until the last second to look at the pools. Why the heck would you worry about pools when you are making a large bet anyways knowing that 100% of the time the horse will pay $2.10. You would worry about a horse staying pacing or trotting and would try and see if he is on the gait before making a wager like that and sure as heck never ever bet one at 6:26AM !!

Furthermore, we are supposed to believe that he wagered 2 grand to place on See You At Peelers when $5,300 of it has been accounted for with Harry betting $1,300 and myself betting $4,000 which I have documented with proof from my account at HPI. That adds up to $5,300 and the pool was $6,550 so how in the hell could he have bet $2,000 as he claims?

Sam , you are so full of it that you are lucky you haven't drowned. Please come back to the real world and leave your little pretend one.



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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 10:09:40 AM »

 i lie where is your accont number
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 10:10:15 AM »

 laughing guy laughing guy
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 10:10:46 AM »

us this niatroll again
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 10:12:00 AM »

I could care less what anyone bets because unless I see a win loss statement from your account or track you wager at it is all BS in my book. I get mine every year from the Ghettolands and last year had a + sign in it.  thumbs up
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2011, 10:16:56 AM »

EVERYBODY HATES A GUY WHO MAKES MONEY  I POST MY WINNERS

THIS YEAR 24 OF 25 LAST YEAR 90 OF 92
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2011, 10:19:07 AM »

My account number is the same place its always been, for me to know. Any bets made on HPI does not have your account number attached to it. The 14 digit numbers I have bolded are transaction numbers.  Unlike you, I play in the real world of betting.

05/23/2011 02:22:41 PM (EDT)  Bet  The Meadows, Race 6, $200.00 WP 6  $690.00  $400.00  63765488563201  
05/17/2011 03:55:18 PM (EDT)  Bet  Monticello, Race 10, $200.00 WIN 3  $640.00  $200.00  21357678785178 
05/12/2011 05:43:07 PM (EDT)  Bet  Woodbine SB, Race 4, $0.20 PK4 2,6-8 / 1-10 / 1,2,5,8 / 1  $896.53  $32.00  66426435666347 
04/26/2011 05:56:32 PM (EDT)  Bet  Western Fair, Race 9, $0.20 PK4 1-5,7,8 / 1,3-7,9 / 1-3,5-9 / 3  $1,089.55  $78.40  70614224071981  
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2011, 10:19:46 AM »

If you play odds on favorites you can win 20 bets in a row and one loser puts you in the negative instantly Sam.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2011, 10:22:20 AM »

REBATES I  GET 5% plus here we go again see ny posts if YOU ARE NOT GEETTING REBATES  YOU ARE A FOOL
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2011, 10:23:11 AM »

REBATES I  GET 5% plus here we go again see ny posts if YOU ARE NOT GEETTING REBATES  YOU ARE A FOOL

Please explain in English Grammar Thanks. laughing guy
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2011, 10:25:07 AM »

I BET 4500 ON SEE YOU AT PEELERS  I GET THE MONEY PLUS THE REBATE laughing guy laughing guy
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 3 YRS
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2011, 10:25:50 AM »

 thumbs up thumbs up
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2011, 10:27:43 AM »

Thank You.
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2011, 10:28:20 AM »

REBATES    ALL THE FOOLS NEVER BET
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2011, 10:35:26 AM »

Sam, lets hear you discusss your wager on Lorenzos Dream at 6:26AM.
I am unable to wager that early with my account.
Can anyone else make wagers at 6:26AM for a race that starts at 1:30PM on any of their accounts here?

What account was that wager made on?
Is it normal for you to wager at 6:26AM for a race that starts at 1:30AM?
Don't you claim to always wager late to check the pools ?
You just claimed to now have bet $4,500 on See You At Peelers with a pool of $6,550 and $5,300 of it already accounted for and showed us an alleged  betting slip that says you made a $2,000 bet to place now your story has been changed to betting $4,500, am I missing something ? Do you need to go to a new script ?
What does $1,300 + $4,000 + $2,000 add up to ?
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2011, 10:36:57 AM »

R U NIATROSS
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