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Author Topic: Teller clerks reject Gural deal  (Read 9152 times)
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2011, 07:18:43 AM »

HOW MANY TELLERS DO THEY REALLY NEED?

how many more billions  does cantor gaming  and gural  need?

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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2011, 07:32:08 AM »

how many more billions  does cantor gaming  and gural  need?



Seems to me they are putting up the risk, therefore they get the biggest reward.  What business could the tellers union actually run?
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2011, 07:33:11 AM »

HOW MANY TELLERS DO THEY REALLY NEED?

10 at the most.  Most sensible people use automated machines to avoid the surliness and ripoff of the tellers.
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2011, 07:39:39 AM »

there is the reason    the  membership    can't   meet the call

seriously


mmm.   wonder  how gural  feels

being  put  in the position  as

NJersey  poster boy  for union busting  !?

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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2011, 07:43:44 AM »

I bet all those women that died in the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire would be horrified by how terrible the poor clerks would have it under the evil Gural. Give me a break.
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2011, 07:46:38 AM »

I bet all those women that died in the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire would be horrified by how terrible the poor clerks would have it under the evil Gural. Give me a break.


i should have said  this\  not you

here

I bet all those women that died in the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire would be horrified by how terrible the poor clerks would have it under the evil Gural. Give me a break.



sounds more contrite

when

i say

it ,

yes?
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2011, 07:53:20 AM »

That tragedy was in 1911, a time when unions had a purpose.  That's the best you could come up with?
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2011, 07:56:52 AM »

Poverty level for a family of 4 is around $ 22750, so they are well above that. Even if they wanted to preserve a negotiating stance re: the upcoming Monmouth Park meet, they are incredibly short-sighted.
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2011, 08:03:05 AM »

Poverty level for a family of 4 is around $ 22750, so they are well above that. Even if they wanted to preserve a negotiating stance re: the upcoming Monmouth Park meet, they are incredibly short-sighted.



mmm 80%  of  30K  is 

$24K



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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2011, 08:09:34 AM »



mmm 80%  of  30K  is 

$24K






The figure that includes the average teller salary of 30k is including the part time employees, it's not a representative figure.
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2011, 08:10:47 AM »

That tragedy was in 1911, a time when unions had a purpose.  That's the best you could come up with?

I have a habit of starting from the beginning, I guess.
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2011, 08:12:54 AM »

What's unemployment in NJ? 50% of your salary (with a cap I'm sure) and the offer of COBRA for medical?
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2011, 08:14:52 AM »

under the best  of circumstances  a  teller will  make between 35K and 45K.




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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2011, 08:20:06 AM »




here's the deal

the presidnet  of the  tellers  union

actually the laborer  intnl  union  of NA  local 137



tellers  average $30,184

admissions  worker  average  $20,500



like someone else   said  under the best of circumstances 

a teller can  make  between  working double shifts  and weekends ( or whatever)

35k and 45K

which  for a family  of 4  is near  the  poverty level.



http://sboanj.com/index.asp?Key=2064

the track will be open less than 80 days of live racing


isn't this a part time job?
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2011, 08:22:42 AM »

the track will be open less than 80 days of live racing


isn't this a part time job?


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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2011, 08:24:25 AM »

the track will be open less than 80 days of live racing


isn't this a part time job?

Has been for a long time.
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2011, 08:33:47 AM »

I go to a casino put money into a machine, then go to another machine and cash out. Why can't the tracks do this, have a machine that cashes vouchers. All they would need is 1 IRS window
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2011, 08:35:01 AM »

I would be interested to know what the "junior tellers" alone would vote if they had the chance....people that may not be able to string out 2 years of unemployment and then take early retirement.
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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2011, 08:38:13 AM »

just curous here...Wouldnt Christie LOVE a chance to break a union all in the fine disguise of NJ taxpayers and then saving a obviously HUGE part of NJ industry? I mean, Gural has said he has the financing and deal inplace EXCEPT for the union issue, why wouldnt Christie tell them sorry aout your luck, bu we can train people in 3 days? I'm just curious about that aspect? I'm generally a union guy, but overstepping is their certain downfall, such as a case like this. When a new guy comes in, wouldnt he have theright to fire everyone then hire back who he wants? Does anyone know if NJ is a union shop? IL is and if there is a union they must use them... You gus have done a good job describing what tellers make, sounds t me like a part time retirement plan.
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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2011, 08:39:55 AM »

That tragedy was in 1911, a time when unions had a purpose.  That's the best you could come up with?

How about companies sending jobs overseas where people are making $10 a day ?
MGMT and or govt in every circumstance is at least 1/2 to blame where a company is struggling to make a profit.Blaming the unions is such sound better.
Who gave these unions the contract ?
Where did all the profits from the Meds go over the yrs ? It surely was n ot put back in to the track.
The clowns on this forum blaming Berstein are even dumber.Horsemen don't want tougher rules and state govts are not willing to give up indvidual powers to regulate racing.
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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2011, 08:46:39 AM »

christie  has made it PLAIN

HIS REGIME  WILL NOT TRANSFER

the operations  to gural

UNLESS

the union  agrees to wage concessions.

IMO If it were solely  up to gural  we wouldn't  be talking about it  here now

christie  wants gural  in the position of union buster boy and I'm not sure he wants that.

currently  the union  is not overly concerned over a  shutdown

and is waiting  on the governor to respond








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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2011, 08:51:17 AM »

I think it's the same thing Mel, if the the union is in place, they have to use them or at least keep a percentage of the employees. I also read somewhere that in order to out a union, a business had to close it's doors for a certain length of time before reopening and being able to operate with without the union.

I am also curious to know whether or not this one union may have ruined it for a number of other Locals since now there will be no need for carpenters, pipe fitters, etc. since there will be no new construction. Maybe just demolition at this point. If the "new" Meadowlands actually picked up and was a success, the possibility of even more new jobs would be present.
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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2011, 08:57:21 AM »

i don't know who Mel is but

let me respond
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2011, 09:00:21 AM »

i don't know who Mel is but

let me respond

Um.....from Moline?
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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2011, 09:01:15 AM »

if the "new meadowlands"  picked up and was a success

there would be no need for concessions

christie acknowledged  last month   his regime    will not transfer  will NOT transfer ownership  of the meadowlands  

until the union  makes concessions



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