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Horse Voice
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2011, 04:00:04 PM »

...blame it on the big guys and their never-ending clamor for more, more, more.

Sounds like jealousy to me.
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CLOCKERTERRY
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2011, 04:03:57 PM »

Sounds like jealousy to me.

Knew for sure that would be coming.  Roll Eyes
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Horse Voice
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2011, 04:13:37 PM »

Knew for sure that would be coming.  Roll Eyes

Of course you knew it was coming, because it's the same charge you leveled at me in the thread about trust fund babies.

Does it somehow not apply to your comments here? If not, please explain.
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2011, 04:15:19 PM »

Of course you knew it was coming, because it's the same charge you leveled at me in the thread about trust fund babies.

Does it somehow not apply to your comments here? If not, please explain.

HV  dont interact

nothing applies to Terry

all he actually    cares  about   is fishing
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They ought to return to Tampa and fix the mistake they made.
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2011, 04:19:58 PM »

Of course you knew it was coming, because it's the same charge you leveled at me in the thread about trust fund babies.

Does it somehow not apply to your comments here? If not, please explain.

It does not, because I am not jealous ... like you are.  laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy
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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2011, 04:20:37 PM »

HV  dont interact

nothing applies to Terry

all he actually    cares  about   is fishing

You are oh so wrong, as usual. I also care about tomatoes.
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2011, 04:27:43 PM »

HV  don't interact

nothing applies to Terry

all he actually   Care's about is fishing

Hey, nothing wrong with that!   There's nothing better if you have the time and it's a nice day for fishing. 
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2011, 04:28:49 PM »

You are oh so wrong, as usual. I also care about tomatoes.

HAHAHAHAH!
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2011, 04:34:01 PM »

It does not, because I am not jealous ... like you are.  laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy

Channeling Mel, right down to the rolling laughing men? Very disappointing -- I was waiting to be convinced that you somehow aren't jealous of players with bigger bankrolls.

Hey, I guess even the BTW Grand Poobah can have an off day.   Shocked
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2011, 04:37:08 PM »

Channeling Mel, right down to the rolling laughing men? Very disappointing

Yeah, I learned a lot about netiquette from Mel.

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I was waiting to be convinced that you somehow aren't jealous of players with bigger bankrolls.

I told you I wasn't. There's no more to it than that.

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Hey, I guess even the BTW Grand Poobah can have an off day.   Shocked

Just not in the mood for another long and useless argument today. We'll just have to agree to agree you're wrong on this one, and let it go at that. Do feel free to get in your usual last word, though.
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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2011, 04:51:42 PM »

I told you I wasn't. There's no more to it than that.

You mean, *exactly* like when I told you I wasn't jealous of trust fund babies?

And ( :::guffaw::: ), when was the last time anybody BUT you had to have the last word?

Are you OK today, chief?
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2011, 11:27:26 PM »

It blows my mind that all these supposed fans of live racing, continue to *** and moan
about spending a few dollars for admission and a program. Obviously you're not wagering enough, or they would give it to you for free, ya think? So if the steakhouse down the street offers a 2 for 1 dinner promotion, they are obligated to keep that same promotion every year? Maybe Arlington and all tracks should just have free admission, free programs, free food, free seats, free gift shop, and maybe free massages after your bad beats too? Let me guess, you complain about the prices at sporting events too? Guess what? That's the price of doing business. This is 2011, not 1960. Geesh.

What is this, a flop out contest? I never claimed to be a large player.

To me, the season pass club attracted alot of guys like me, the casual guys that follow racing who show up once or twice a week, run $20-30 a race through the window, buy an overpriced beer or two, and stick around for a few races. Maybe they bring the kids on Sunday now and then. It made sense when you could come and go cheaply, but a different story when you are taking a $10-15 haircut on your bankroll just to walk in the same door you walked into for free last year. Maybe that guy keeps showing up (like I will), or maybe he finds something else to do with his time. Maybe he passes AP on the way down to the Des Plaines casino poker room. Who knows.

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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2011, 11:45:36 PM »

What is this, a flop out contest? I never claimed to be a large player.

To me, the season pass club attracted alot of guys like me, the casual guys that follow racing who show up once or twice a week, run $20-30 a race through the window, buy an overpriced beer or two, and stick around for a few races. Maybe they bring the kids on Sunday now and then. It made sense when you could come and go cheaply, but a different story when you are taking a $10-15 haircut on your bankroll just to walk in the same door you walked into for free last year. Maybe that guy keeps showing up (like I will), or maybe he finds something else to do with his time. Maybe he passes AP on the way down to the Des Plaines casino poker room. Who knows.

IMHO their opinion is just as you suspect, that your attendance and expenditures as a "little guy" will not be impacted in the least, while they try and divert more of their resources to the always whiny (and apparently quite thin skinned) "big players". That's been the pattern in Illinois the past few years, and I'm sure we all know how well that's been working out, especially at Hawthorne. It has also been the overall pattern for all of racing, as they've tried to cater more toward the big guys and all their promises of how handle would just explode if the tracks would just divert more of their resources to them, the really important guys, and they got better rebates, or more in-home signals, or whatever. And indeed, the truth of their claims shows up in the national handle figures  thumbs up



http://jockeyclub.com/factbook.asp?section=8

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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2011, 11:45:50 PM »

Went to Arlington Park live. Their hot shot web site from last year. Still has the 2010 racing info. They open in 5 weeks and I still can't order tickets or seats on line. Knock Knock anybody home, Hello.Whose minding the store. Maybe I'll just stay home bet on line and have cold dogs on a stale bun just like at the track.
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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2011, 11:47:29 PM »

Went to Arlington Park live. Their hot shot web site from last year. Still has the 2010 racing info. They open in 5 weeks and I still can't order tickets or seats on line.

Don't worry, good seats are still available.
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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2011, 11:48:51 PM »

IMHO their opinion is just as you suspect, that your attendance and expenditures as a "little guy" will not be impacted in the least, while they try and divert more of their resources to the always whiny (and apparently quite thin skinned) "big players". That's been the pattern in Illinois the past few years, and I'm sure we all know how well that's been working out, especially at Hawthorne. It has also been the overall pattern for all of racing, as they've tried to cater more toward the big guys and all their promises of how handle would just explode if the tracks would just divert more of their resources to them, the really important guys, and they got better rebates, or more in-home signals, or whatever. And indeed, the truth of their claims shows up in the national handle figures  thumbs up



http://jockeyclub.com/factbook.asp?section=8


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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2011, 11:51:09 PM »

What is this, a flop out contest? I never claimed to be a large player.

To me, the season pass club attracted alot of guys like me, the casual guys that follow racing who show up once or twice a week, run $20-30 a race through the window, buy an overpriced beer or two, and stick around for a few races. Maybe they bring the kids on Sunday now and then. It made sense when you could come and go cheaply, but a different story when you are taking a $10-15 haircut on your bankroll just to walk in the same door you walked into for free last year. Maybe that guy keeps showing up (like I will), or maybe he finds something else to do with his time. Maybe he passes AP on the way down to the Des Plaines casino poker room. Who knows.

wether you are a dog and beer guy or a fillet and champagne guy both types of customers deserve respect
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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2011, 11:54:35 PM »

wether you are a dog and beer guy or a fillet and champagne guy both types of customers deserve respect

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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2011, 10:36:54 AM »

...while they try and divert more of their resources to the always whiny (and apparently quite thin skinned) "big players".

To whom are you referring here, as "thin skinned"?

And it's YOU that seems to be doing the whining around here, about lesser rewards for smaller players.

Closer to the truth: the so-called "big players" are in demand, and don't have to "whine" for anything. Most recent example: Hawthorne is pushing XpressBet (they are partners), and if you sign up with them, you can get a $100 bonus for your first $100 deposited...

Unless you are a Platinum member -- then it's $500 for the first $500 deposited.

I asked John Walsh, "who came up with that, and why?" He said that they realize that the bigger players have many options, and they are trying very hard to keep the ones they have in the Hawthorne network...he made absolutely NO mention of any whining.
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2011, 10:42:21 AM »

Oriole--- I knew it-- I quit AP and the joint falls apart. Seriously if you search hard enough you can find references to the 2009 season on the site.
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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2011, 10:58:01 AM »

To whom are you referring here, as "thin skinned"?

I don't know ... maybe guys still secretly burning inside with the shame of being called "jealous" of trust fund babies on an Internet forum, and waiting patiently in the shadows for the day when they can find some excuse to finally turn the tables and get even for that deadly insult to their anonymous poster name.

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« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2011, 12:30:18 PM »

I don't know ... maybe guys still secretly burning inside with the shame of being called "jealous" of trust fund babies on an Internet forum, and waiting patiently in the shadows for the day when they can find some excuse to finally turn the tables and get even for that deadly insult to their anonymous poster name.

 laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy

Ah, I see.

You call me jealous about trust fund babies, and it's "accurate".

I catch you indulging in the same sort of scornful language about another group of folks, call you on it...and it's an "excuse" on my part to exercise a hidden agenda, and presumably false.

Think you are fooling anybody? Really?

(And the idea that somehow anyone with an anonymous forum name isn't allowed to defend themself, or shouldn't call you out when you are CLEARLY guilty of the exact same thing on which you call others out -- you can STICK that. Very few folks post here under their actual name; tough noogies, and for the most part, COMPLETELY irrelevant.)
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2011, 11:31:10 AM »

What I really don't like about it is AP gutting the ARC club, then boasting about how "new" and "IMPROVED" it is.  I have stockholder's passes but I was thinking about joining the club this summer. I thought it might be nice to have an extra pass when my son or sister in law or even a non-racing friend may be interested in going to the races. But now I am no longer interested in doing that. 
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« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2011, 12:08:23 PM »

"Check out the new and improved 2011 Arlington Racing Club!

To thank our current Arlington Racing Club members, beginning April 1, Arlington Park invites you to renew your Arlington Racing Club membership for 2011 at a discount of almost 50% from 2010 pricing. The all-new 2011 membership package has been enhanced to include a variety of benefits"

What a joke.
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« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2011, 12:22:36 PM »

I think we should all flood Ken Keihns e mail untill it crashes.
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