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« on: March 10, 2011, 07:45:13 PM »

does anyone know whos ideal it was to have the open stretch in harness racing?
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 09:07:11 PM »

personally i dont like it. Thats why i like to bet mile tracks.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 09:11:06 PM »

Started at Maywood in 88

horrid idea

no more movement  thumbs down
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 10:24:02 PM »

A guy from Illinois patented it I think, then licensed it to the tracks. I think Maywood was the first to use it in a race.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 10:31:57 PM »

A guy from Illinois patented it I think, then licensed it to the tracks. I think Maywood was the first to use it in a race.
I think you are right, and the name is right on the tip of my (oh you know)
Where is RTP? I bet a dollar to anything that he knows.
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I am just an old "Hoss" trainer, that has been raced hard and put away wet. 
As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 10:36:35 PM »

I think you are right, and the name is right on the tip of my (oh you know)
Where is RTP? I bet a dollar to anything that he knows.
Maybe Dooley or something like that.
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I am just an old "Hoss" trainer, that has been raced hard and put away wet. 
As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 11:01:56 PM »

Tioga does not have one !!!
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 11:13:20 PM »

This excerpt from the Joe O'Brien book.

The reference to "Harry" is Joe's Dad.

According to Harry's grandson, Terry O'Brien, a well-known horseman on both sides of the border: "So far as we know, my grandfather was the first ever to have night racing on the small track near Alberton. The first modern lighting system was in Indiana, but my grandfather's less than modern lighting facilities went as follows: He would have the fans line up around the track in their cars. When it was time for a race they would turn on their car lights. Later, grandfather installed a tall pole in the centre of the infield with a huge spotlight on top. An operator at the base of the pole would manipulate a long handle to keep the arc light focused on the horses as the field went around the track. He is also credited with initiating the concept of the passing lane and had one on his track in Alberton In the early 1930s."
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 11:20:59 PM »

Richard Herbert, M.D. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 09:14:55 AM »

Adds a little to a half mile track ....
We did have a couple horses years ago that the drivers insisted didn't want to steer left into the open stretch .
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 09:33:11 AM »

Great addition to racing.  Brought back greatness to 1/2 mile tracks.  Doesn't belong on mile tracks, though.  I hate it at Bal.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2011, 10:01:54 AM »

Great addition to racing.  Brought back greatness to 1/2 mile tracks.  Doesn't belong on mile tracks, though.  I hate it at Bal.
don't know aboout greatness on the 1/2 but I do hate it on the mile.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2011, 12:18:22 PM »

Adds a little to a half mile track ....
We did have a couple horses years ago that the drivers insisted didn't want to steer left into the open stretch .

perfectly stated

never made sense

 thumbs down [d]eliminated all strategic drving
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2011, 02:59:20 PM »

perfectly stated

never made sense

 thumbs down [d]eliminated all strategic drving
not a big fan and haven't bet on 1/2 mile tracks in years.
To quote George Bush, What "strategere" is involved on a 1/2 mile track ?
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2011, 04:11:20 PM »

does anyone know whos ideal it was to have the open stretch in harness racing?


Believe it was Ira Smolin who patented it in Illinois.
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 04:17:40 PM »


Believe it was Ira Smolin who patented it in Illinois.
Richard Herbert MD   patent # 5240459  8/31/93
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2011, 04:19:21 PM »

Personnelly I would rather know there is an open stretch(Bal) as opposed to watching in just about every race one good old boy letting another good old boy up the rail(Big M).
At The Meadowlands they might just as well have an open stretch as they race like there is one.
I was taught there is a passing lane(outside), and a suicide lane(Inside). Anyone coming up the inside was free game to be put over the hub rail, and that is the way it should be.  IMHO.

Growing up one of my best Friends started driving, and got in the habit of coming up the rail without enough room. Drivers were moving over for the kid. Dave did this till he tried it to my father. My father at the head of the grandstand put him over the hub rail. Mind you this was my best friend. Dave never tried it to any one again, and I am no dummy I never did either.
That is the way it was 45 years ago.

Ps. Was my father called before the Judges? 
Yes
They told him "Well that kid won't try that again".
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I am just an old "Hoss" trainer, that has been raced hard and put away wet. 
As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 09:32:03 PM »

Tioga does not have one !!!

Gural hates passing lane..
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 09:40:08 PM »

Of course Gural hates the passing lane. He grew up at the New York twice arounds where guys like Carmine and Herve could keep the first up horse at their wheel and the pocket horse locked up. To him, that's racing. And I don't necessarily disagree.

Oddly enough, an innovation that was designed to make racing on half-milers more competitive does exactly the opposite, as drivers now often sit and wait. Ironically, it works much better on the bigger tracks.
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