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Author Topic: MARK BETWITH AND BILL DIPSTICK JUST SET UP THE FINALE  (Read 2423 times)
JuiceJunkies
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« on: March 06, 2011, 03:40:35 PM »

WITH FRANK DAVIS HAVING THE BEST HORSE #1 BETWITH SEND HIS CHARGE TO THE FRONT TO PARK OUT #1.   WITH #1 PARKED DIPSTICK GOES 3 WIDE TO TRY AND SWEEP THEM ALL, BETWITH REALIZING HIS STEED WAS FIRED UP (LIKELY FROM WHATEVER JUNK RUNNING THRU HIS VEINS) BREAKS HIS HORSE TO ENSURE DIPSTICK CAN GET THE LEAD AND PACE AWAY.  ONCE THAT WAS ENSURED BETWITH REGAINED HIS CHARGE AND CHASED HIM HOME TO HIT THE TICKET.   

DOES BETWITH EVEN NEED CHRIS LONG ANYMORE?
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 03:54:45 PM »

it`s called racing!
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JuiceJunkies
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 04:41:28 PM »

it`s called racing!

I have no dog in this fight as I was not betting just watching opening weekend.   I am more interested in the Vernon horses.  BUT if that was racing Saratogo should be shut down.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 04:54:13 PM »

WITH FRANK DAVIS HAVING THE BEST HORSE #1 BETWITH SEND HIS CHARGE TO THE FRONT TO PARK OUT #1.   WITH #1 PARKED DIPSTICK GOES 3 WIDE TO TRY AND SWEEP THEM ALL, BETWITH REALIZING HIS STEED WAS FIRED UP (LIKELY FROM WHATEVER JUNK RUNNING THRU HIS VEINS) BREAKS HIS HORSE TO ENSURE DIPSTICK CAN GET THE LEAD AND PACE AWAY.  ONCE THAT WAS ENSURED BETWITH REGAINED HIS CHARGE AND CHASED HIM HOME TO HIT THE TICKET.   

DOES BETWITH EVEN NEED CHRIS LONG ANYMORE?
I hope Beckwith hit it big!
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 05:00:02 PM »

SHUT UP JUICE!  YOU'RE NO GOOD!
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 05:39:01 PM »

http://66.209.93.118/Replays2011/201103061626SRN13.wmv?CUST=SaratogaHarness&ANGLE=pan&TICKET=dc585e4bc4c5ede714b124680cf1f100%7C1299454411%7C300%7C%2A%7CSaratogaHarness%7C1000%7C0%7C0

Here is a copy of the replay for all to see.   
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 05:39:34 PM »

SHUT UP JUICE!  YOU'RE NO GOOD!

mtv tread lightly son.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 05:53:43 PM »

mtv tread lightly son.
tread lightly? Why is that RAT You love to threaten people don't you? What are you going to do to her? Your nothing but a rat thats it why your post are left up with know proof worrys me. You do nothing but slander every one your a rat and thats it. the one that should tread lightly son is YOU

Mtv is a women i am told are you threating a women? Ill tell you what you told Dan Nance saym it to my face. threaten a women to my face and see what happens RAT
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 05:58:43 PM »

WITH FRANK DAVIS HAVING THE BEST HORSE #1 BETWITH SEND HIS CHARGE TO THE FRONT TO PARK OUT #1.   WITH #1 PARKED DIPSTICK GOES 3 WIDE TO TRY AND SWEEP THEM ALL, BETWITH REALIZING HIS STEED WAS FIRED UP (LIKELY FROM WHATEVER JUNK RUNNING THRU HIS VEINS) BREAKS HIS HORSE TO ENSURE DIPSTICK CAN GET THE LEAD AND PACE AWAY.  ONCE THAT WAS ENSURED BETWITH REGAINED HIS CHARGE AND CHASED HIM HOME TO HIT THE TICKET.   

DOES BETWITH EVEN NEED CHRIS LONG ANYMORE?
Not what I saw.  5 went around the 1 like he was standing still. 1 didn't even hold on for 2nd.  The 5 needed no help from any other horse.  Easily the best.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 06:22:34 PM »

Juice,

I think you may be wrong on this one...Beckwith's horse looks to have just blown up for no apparent reason.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 07:01:45 PM »

Not what I saw.  5 went around the 1 like he was standing still. 1 didn't even hold on for 2nd.  The 5 needed no help from any other horse.  Easily the best.
He made this post about mark beckwith because he has been says in pri e-mails that he is Mark he is doing nothing but making a jerk of him self he picked any race to post rather it was right or wrong. he is doing nothing but trying missled every one
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 08:21:13 PM »

BREAKS HIS HORSE TO ENSURE DIPSTICK CAN GET THE LEAD AND PACE AWAY. 
Please help me out here a little.
How specifically does a driver intentionally break an old claiming pacer(139 starts $99,064)?
Is it not a bit dangerous to intentionally break this old claiming pacer when you are in front of the whole 8 horse field?
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I am just an old "Hoss" trainer, that has been raced hard and put away wet. 
As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 09:02:36 PM »

I'm not very bright, but Cardio Yankee was the best horse in the race?  I guess I see things differently.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 09:18:35 PM »

juice is just another degenerate gambler like his fat buddy pig
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JuiceJunkies
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 09:05:17 AM »

I'm not very bright, but Cardio Yankee was the best horse in the race?  I guess I see things differently.

Thanks.  They did everything they could to get Frank out of the number.   Even kramer came first up.

As for Betwidth he would do anything to cash a ticket, ANYTHING.  The man sold his soul long ago.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 10:13:39 AM »

Thanks.  They did everything they could to get Frank out of the number.   Even kramer came first up.

As for Betwidth he would do anything to cash a ticket, ANYTHING.  The man sold his soul long ago.
are we watching the same race ?  The #5 was a winner no matter what happened.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 11:38:04 AM »

are we watching the same race ?  The #5 was a winner no matter what happened.
vaporize i understand what your saying but do you really think this guy under stands any thing? he is just trying to make a post count just like he did on the *** he would post about any thing then tell you how wrong you are just to get you to fight with him
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 11:43:37 AM »

vaporize i understand what your saying but do you really think this guy under stands any thing he is just trying to make a post count just like he did on the *** he would post anout any thing then tell you how wrong you are just to fget you to fight with him
Not fighting just pointing out that the video, that he posted, does not show what he posted. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 12:27:30 PM »

I'm not very bright, but Cardio Yankee was the best horse in the race?  I guess I see things differently.

If JJ Thought Cardio Yankee was the best horse in that race.....You're right about one thing......He's not very bright......The whole post is one of about 100 posts hes either started or hijacked and made it about Mark....

1) How do you "PARK OUT" the 1 when you have the two hole?.....The idiot on the 1 parked himself
2) The 1 was awful.....had ZERO pace at any time in the race......Couldnt get within 2 lengths of Mark in a 30 second 2nd quarter for him to even have to come to a decision to "let him go"
3) First time I ever heard of a guy quarter poling to the front and then intentionally breaking his horse down the backside.....because he wanted to lose 15 lengths, come back pacing and be exactly second......Gotta be easier ways to get a number home than that
4) If Beckwith didnt break the 1 would have been distanced because he was hopelessly hung the mile
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SHOWTIME!!!
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 12:50:07 PM »

If you think Cardio Yankee was the best horse in that race.....You're right about one thing......You're not very bright......The whole post is one of about 100 posts hes either started or hijacked and made it about Mark....

1) How do you "PARK OUT" the 1 when you have the two hole?.....The idiot on the 1 parked himself
2) The 1 was awful.....had ZERO pace at any time in the race......Couldnt get within 2 lengths of Mark in a 30 second 2nd quarter for him to even have to come to a decision to "let him go"
3) First time I ever heard of a guy quarter poling to the front and then intentionally breaking his horse down the backside.....because he wanted to lose 15 lengths, come back pacing and be exactly second......Gotta be easier ways to get a number home than that
4) If Beckwith didnt break the 1 would have been distanced because he was hopelessly hung the mile
I think FV RedHot made the comment, actually a question, tongue in cheek. Outside of JJ, anyone that has watched the posted video agrees with JJ's opinion of the race.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 07:30:44 PM »

Guys they are 5 claimers.   Nothing special, 30 second quarters this time of year are outstanding.   Betwidth pulled to quarter pole because he could not have Frank in the pocket.

When Dobson(dipstick) was coming he tried to take back thus causing the break.   Did he intend to break no but that is why he was in desperation mode to get his charge home for 2nd to cash the tickets.

Are ya'll watching the race?  Or are you that brainwashed to believe that race was honest?
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 07:43:26 PM »

Guys they are 5 claimers.   Nothing special, 30 second quarters this time of year are outstanding.   Betwidth pulled to quarter pole because he could not have Frank in the pocket.

When Dobson(dipstick) was coming he tried to take back thus causing the break.   Did he intend to break no but that is why he was in desperation mode to get his charge home for 2nd to cash the tickets.

Are ya'll watching the race?  Or are you that brainwashed to believe that race was honest?
your original post says "Beckwith breaks his horse to ensure dipstick gets the lead".
Which implies "INTENT"
your last post claims Beckwith did not intend to break his horse
So which is it. DOPE!
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J
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 07:46:11 PM »

JJ
nice attempt at trying to cover your ass. Your even dumber than first suspected.
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 07:47:04 PM »

your original post says "Beckwith breaks his horse to ensure dipstick gets the lead".
Which implies "INTENT"
your last post claims Beckwith did not intend to break his horse
So which is it. DOPE!

Seriously what are you smoking where do I claim he didn't intend?  He took back to yield to Dipstick, thus causing the break...

Has Sean Campbell hit you that many times with a LEAD Shank that your retarded?
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 07:50:09 PM »



When Dobson(dipstick) was coming he tried to take back thus causing the break.   Did he intend to break no
right here
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2011, 07:51:39 PM »

Seriously what are you smoking where do I claim he didn't intend?  He took back to yield to Dipstick, thus causing the break...

Has Sean Campbell hit you that many times with a LEAD Shank that your retarded?
read both posts nitwit, you can't have it both ways. A CONVICTED LIAR
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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2011, 07:58:39 PM »



When Dobson(dipstick) was coming he tried to take back thus causing the break.   Did he intend to break no but that is why he was in desperation mode to get his charge home              
, BETWITH REALIZING HIS STEED WAS FIRED UP (LIKELY FROM WHATEVER JUNK RUNNING THRU HIS VEINS) BREAKS HIS HORSE TO ENSURE DIPSTICK CAN GET THE LEAD AND PACE AWAY.  
so which lie is the truth? Did Beckwith break the horse on purpose or not?

THE NEXT TIME YOU SPEW LIES AND HATE ABOUT DECENT PEOPLE, AT LEAST TRY TO REFER BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST. HERE IS SOME REAL GOOD ADVICE.
"YOU DON'T NEED A GOOD MEMORY WHEN YOU TELL THE TRUTH"
YOU ARE NOW A "CONVICTED LIAR"
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2011, 08:10:11 PM »

right here

WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM THE FORUM'S BIGGEST LIAR !
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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2011, 08:14:13 PM »

, BETWITH REALIZING HIS STEED WAS FIRED UP (LIKELY FROM WHATEVER JUNK RUNNING THRU HIS VEINS) BREAKS HIS HORSE TO ENSURE DIPSTICK CAN GET THE LEAD AND PACE AWAY. 
so which lie is the truth? Did Beckwith break the horse on purpose or not?
ELMO HAS BEEN MAKING BREAKS SINCE MELISSA GOT HIM. BROKE HIM ON PURPOSE IS A CLASSIC MORONIC POST. AND HE RUSHED BACK TO MAKE THE EXACTA?Huh?? BSmeter doh screwy
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2011, 08:14:45 PM »

WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM THE FORUM'S BIGGEST LIAR !
THE CLOWN WASN'T EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO LOOK AT HIS ORIGINAL POST. HE TRIED TO BACK TRACK AFTER THE DECENT POSTERS ON THIS FORUM QUESTIONED HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE RACE. ONE THREAD, TWO STORIES
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2011, 10:11:03 PM »

THE CLOWN WASN'T EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO LOOK AT HIS ORIGINAL POST. HE TRIED TO BACK TRACK AFTER THE DECENT POSTERS ON THIS FORUM QUESTIONED HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE RACE. ONE THREAD, TWO STORIES

HARD TO BELIEVE THERE IS A BIGGER DOPE ON THIS FORUM THAN PIGSTOOL OR NICKLES  BUT JUNKY JUICE EVEN MAKES NANCE LOOK LIKE A GENIUS.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2011, 09:17:14 AM »

Seriously what are you smoking where do I claim he didn't intend?  He took back to yield to Dipstick, thus causing the break...

Has Sean Campbell hit you that many times with a LEAD Shank that your retarded?
It looks like you have dug your own grave here with out me saying a word huh? keep up the good work RAT
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2011, 11:21:28 AM »

THE CLOWN WASN'T EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO LOOK AT HIS ORIGINAL POST. HE TRIED TO BACK TRACK AFTER THE DECENT POSTERS ON THIS FORUM QUESTIONED HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE RACE. ONE THREAD, TWO STORIES

YOU ARE THE CLOWN YOU VIRGINIA LOSER GET A REAL JOB
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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2011, 02:24:53 PM »

I HAVE POSTED MANY NEGATIVE THINGS ON HERE BETWITH HAS DONE IN THE PAST.
DID HE WANT TO WIN OR BE 2ND..... YES
BUT BREAK HIS HORSE ON PURPOSE IS PURE... BS
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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2011, 02:36:25 PM »

My god Juice Junkies , I have sat by for some time now watching you go at it with J and others laughing all the while . But guys like you who always see some way a race was fixed sound like the guy on the grassy knoll. Come on man join the rest of us in reality . You are so consumed in your hatered of Beckwith that you make asanine posts and sound more and more like Dan Nance . I mean my that , that you are right and the rest of the world is in denial . Get a clue .
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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2011, 08:29:19 PM »

I never said he broke him on purpose.   Jesus Christ guys.   I said seeing his horse fired up he broke him, he was obviously yanking on the lines trying to take but thus resulting in a break.

Where did I say he broke him on purpose?

Give it up.

King151 I may hate Betwidth for being a cheat but it was obvious he parked Frank Davis and took up to make sure Dipstick could go by.

That is it.  He wanted to be 2nd and only 2nd, he did not want to win.   Did you see his late pace, all he had to do was pace and and he wins for fun and the number is 2/1 not 5/2.
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« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2011, 08:32:05 PM »

Seriously what are you smoking where do I claim he didn't intend?  He took back to yield to Dipstick, thus causing the break...

Has Sean Campbell hit you that many times with a LEAD Shank that your retarded?

Again *** where did I say intend.  You said implied intent but I never said intend.  Quit trying to twist this whole thread.
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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2011, 06:52:53 AM »

I never said he broke him on purpose.   Jesus Christ guys.   I said seeing his horse fired up he broke him, he was obviously yanking on the lines trying to take but thus resulting in a break.

Where did I say he broke him on purpose?

Give it up.

King151 I may hate Betwidth for being a cheat but it was obvious he parked Frank Davis and took up to make sure Dipstick could go by.

That is it.  He wanted to be 2nd and only 2nd, he did not want to win.   Did you see his late pace, all he had to do was pace and and he wins for fun and the number is 2/1 not 5/2.
Number 1 if you are not saying mark did then you are all wrong arnt you one more time? I know you make misstakes but never lie well this must be a misstake right?

Number 2. you said "  I said seeing his horse fired up he broke him " This means the horse broke himself mark did not brake him right?

number 3. I quote you " He wanted to be 2nd and only 2nd " where is your proof for race fixing now that would be big news

number 4. you said " he parked Frank Davis " read the rules please that is what it says should do by all rights to racing because if he did not park him then rats in the sport would post ' DID YOU SEE BECKWITH LET DAVIS GO WHAT A CHEAT ?

number 5. there are a lot of horses that show big late pace rather then early speed please lets post the facts from now on with proof not from a better that lost his 2 bucks the best i can say to you is please learn the sport of harness racing and how horses run then the next time a horse makes what we call a big " brush " you will understand


But if you have proof to what you say please post it. but to call some one a cheat because you lost your money come on man Get a life

It is people like you that make post with UN true facts that hurt the game
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2011, 10:50:44 AM »

the momo likes beckwith. excellent horseman.
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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2011, 03:27:12 PM »

Sorry juice, don't agree with you on  this one, saw the race and watched the replay.  This is what they call horse racing............
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