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« on: April 13, 2006, 01:12:34 AM »

Heard tonight that the Ol tanker was let go from his California job.  Anybody know anything about it?
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 07:44:21 AM »

The old saying is "where there's smoke there's fire."   Point is, I too head 'something about this' when my wife and I were at Cal Expo for a visit a week and a half ago.     Kim was to drive in a amateur race that night and was a 'late scratch.'   Something was and is amiss.   Kim's always been a decent guy to me, and we wish him well.....whatever the case may be.   I know he went to California with high expectations and great enthusiasm for his new position.   I e-mailed him and have not received a response.   Hope all will be well with him and that we'll soon know the facts, or as commentator Paul Harvey would say, "The rest of the story........"
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 11:11:23 AM »

Those with integrity issues need not apply. That's what the OL' TANKER posted on this forum.

    Maybe the OL' TANKER was too clean for the crooks at Cal Fixpo.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2006, 11:14:11 AM »

Those with integrity issues need not apply. That's what the OL' TANKER posted on this forum.

    Maybe the OL' TANKER was too clean for the crooks at Cal Fixpo.


Dan - What percentage of those involved in harness racing (from the bottom to the top) do you suspect are doing something illicit in the game?
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2006, 11:28:39 AM »

Dan - What percentage of those involved in harness racing (from the bottom to the top) do you suspect are doing something illicit in the game?

Chicago.... 5%

    Cal Expo..... 50%

    The Big M...... 2%
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 11:30:01 AM »

Chicago.... 5%

    Cal Expo..... 50%

    The Big M...... 2%


I always suspected Cal-X was a dump, but it sounds worse than I ever suspected.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 11:36:18 AM »

the last two legs of the Bal-Cal Fix four looked a little shifty last night, as always.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 11:39:13 AM »

the last two legs of the Bal-Cal Fix four looked a little shifty last night, as always.

Could you tell that Scott E. was pissed with the drive he got with his horse last night. Four different times he paused calling the race. He must have been turning off the mic swearing his ass off between calls.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 11:39:21 AM »

I always suspected Cal-X was a dump, but it sounds worse than I ever suspected.
Cal Expo's game has always been "lineups" rather than good, expensive chemistry.  Once you're in the clique, you're allowed to go to the Sacramento Pancake House on race mornings to get in on those lineups taking place that evening.  The drivers out there are shadier than a string of elm trees in the forest.   trotter  TC
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 11:41:20 AM »

Cal Expo's game has always been "lineups" rather than good, expensive chemistry.  Once you're in the clique, you're allowed to go to the Sacramento Pancake House on race mornings to get in on those lineups taking place that evening.  The drivers out there are shadier than a string of elm trees in the forest.   trotter  TC

They must take turns, because I couldn't find any big nights from any one driver. I'll keep an eye on it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2006, 11:47:57 AM »

Could you tell that Scott E. was pissed with the drive he got with his horse last night. Four different times he paused calling the race. He must have been turning off the mic swearing his ass off between calls.
Yes, you could tell he was pissed, no doubt about it.  I didn't realize that was why, but you are right.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2006, 12:35:08 PM »

Yes, you could tell he was pissed, no doubt about it.  I didn't realize that was why, but you are right.

Nothing gets passed me. Scott E. was steaming with the drive he got last night. You could tell in his voice while calling the race.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2006, 12:49:17 PM »

the last two legs of the Bal-Cal Fix four looked a little shifty last night, as always.

Only here could a $9 and $12 winner be construed as "shifty."

Last night the track was DEAD front.  The furthest any winner was off at the three-quarters was about a length.  If you picked up on this fact, and can trip handicap at all, it should've lead to a profitable night.

On a side note, FRANKTHE BANK in the 10th broke the bias, and with a better draw position next week -- should be one to watch.  Wojcio has been hot as of late, and he'll definitely be on him next week.

Finally, I sincerely hope that Mooney allows his 3yo colt Celebrity Surfer to come trot out East.  He's already the holder of the 2yo and 3yo track records at Expo, and has been pounding the high condition levels the past couple weeks.  Hopefully he'll join "Laura Lane N" on the bus out to East Rutherford.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2006, 01:05:41 PM »

Only here could a $9 and $12 winner be construed as "shifty."

Last night the track was DEAD front.  The furthest any winner was off at the three-quarters was about a length.  If you picked up on this fact, and can trip handicap at all, it should've lead to a profitable night.

On a side note, FRANKTHE BANK in the 10th broke the bias, and with a better draw position next week -- should be one to watch.  Wojcio has been hot as of late, and he'll definitely be on him next week.

Finally, I sincerely hope that Mooney allows his 3yo colt Celebrity Surfer to come trot out East.  He's already the holder of the 2yo and 3yo track records at Expo, and has been pounding the high condition levels the past couple weeks.  Hopefully he'll join "Laura Lane N" on the bus out to East Rutherford.

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This thread is about THE OL' TANKER. If you know so much about Cal Fixpo then tell us what happened to the OL' TANKER.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2006, 01:09:14 PM »

This thread is about THE OL' TANKER. If you know so much about Cal Fixpo then tell us what happened to the OL' TANKER.

I'm aware of the situation, and I assume it'll be aired here shortly.  Not my place, however.

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2006, 01:14:03 PM »

edwardwilliam,
If you are going to derail a thread at least mention, Ledford, or how Dan got railroaded out of the business by the Gestapo. Don't you have any BTW etiquette?
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2006, 01:22:45 PM »

edwardwilliam,
If you are going to derail a thread at least mention, Ledford, or how Dan got railroaded out of the business by the Gestapo. Don't you have any BTW etiquette?

Dan didn't get railroaded out of the business by the gestapo so don't post that I did. Dan retired for the reasons I mentioned in the other topic.

   The gestapo didn't do jack shit to Dan. The gestapo awarded Dan the " Beat Barn Award " in 1989.

   Dan didn't have a problem with management EVER in his career, so get that straight right here and now.

   Dan hates the gestapo and management because they RUINED Chicago harness racing. I have no hate for the gestapo because of anything they did to me personally because they NEVER did anything to me personally.

   Dan is pissed at Doc for telling Joe B. I have integrity issues because he knows better.

   NOW DOES THAT CLEAR A FEW THINGS UP?   
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2006, 01:26:11 PM »

The gestapo awarded Dan the " Beat Barn Award " in 1989.


Did you play bongos and recite bad poetry at the Beat Barn?

I have new respect for Dan in the HOF balloting.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2006, 01:28:46 PM »



Did you play bongos and recite bad poetry at the Beat Barn?

I have new respect for Dan in the HOF balloting.

Your man Morgan won the award for the " dirtyest gymshoe " award.
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2006, 01:32:51 PM »

Dan didn't get railroaded out of the business by the gestapo so don't post that I did. Dan retired for the reasons I mentioned in the other topic.

   The gestapo didn't do jack shit to Dan. The gestapo awarded Dan the " Beat Barn Award " in 1989.

   Dan didn't have a problem with management EVER in his career, so get that straight right here and now.

   Dan hates the gestapo and management because they RUINED Chicago harness racing. I have no hate for the gestapo because of anything they did to me personally because they NEVER did anything to me personally.

   Dan is pissed at Doc for telling Joe B. I have integrity issues because he knows better.

   NOW DOES THAT CLEAR A FEW THINGS UP?   


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      The gestapo did railroad my brother out of the business for 10 years with 9 phony M99 positives so they could let the " Hall Of fame " trainer get away with 52 cloudy tests. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2006, 01:43:09 PM »

Your man Morgan won the award for the " dirtyest gymshoe " award.

It is spelled "dirtiest". Thought you might want to know.

Did you ever notice Tony doing anything like putting the salad fork on the wrong side of a plate at a table setting?
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2006, 01:46:29 PM »

Dan didn't get railroaded out of the business by the gestapo so don't post that I did. Dan retired for the reasons I mentioned in the other topic.

   The gestapo didn't do jack shit to Dan. The gestapo awarded Dan the " Beat Barn Award " in 1989.

   Dan didn't have a problem with management EVER in his career, so get that straight right here and now.

   Dan hates the gestapo and management because they RUINED Chicago harness racing. I have no hate for the gestapo because of anything they did to me personally because they NEVER did anything to me personally.

   Dan is pissed at Doc for telling Joe B. I have integrity issues because he knows better.

   NOW DOES THAT CLEAR A FEW THINGS UP?   


I heard they railroaded Morgan out of Chicago too.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2006, 01:47:43 PM »

I heard they railroaded Morgan out of Chicago too.

You hear a lot of things. The doctors have a name for that condition.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2006, 02:29:30 PM »

It is spelled "dirtiest". Thought you might want to know.

Did you ever notice Tony doing anything like putting the salad fork on the wrong side of a plate at a table setting?
I'll guarantee you Tony wouldn't know a salad fork from a dinner fork.  John Campbell and Mike LaChance know the difference though...and I don't even care for LaChance personally.  All Tony knows are mangy dogs, beat-up pick-up trucks, and dirty gym shoes.  The highest he ever aspired is "Quack 101" by doing those illegal throat surgeries, where he lied to owners vis a vis recovery time, just to line his greedy pockets. Tony makes Jed Clampett look like william F. Buckley - LOL  trotter  TC
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2006, 02:38:46 PM »

I hope that what I heard the reason for Kim's dismissal is not true.  Very, very disturbing if found to be true.
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2006, 03:07:29 PM »

Sorry, can't resist this - while there is some valuable information and some to-be-expected humor throughout this thread, compunded by some of the usual scrapping, only 6 of the first 24 entries had anything to do with Kim Hankins.   This post has been sidetracked.  I, for one, would like factual details of what's shakin' with regards to the Ol' Tanker.     
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2006, 03:12:29 PM »

Sorry, can't resist this - while there is some valuable information and some to-be-expected humor throughout this thread, compunded by some of the usual scrapping, only 6 of the first 24 entries had anything to do with Kim Hankins.   This post has been sidetracked.  I, for one, would like factual details of what's shakin' with regards to the Ol' Tanker.     

Me too. I hope it had nothing to do with integrity issues. Those with integrity issues need not apply.
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2006, 03:13:48 PM »

I'm aware of the situation, and I assume it'll be aired here shortly.  Not my place, however.

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Must be something bad if you don't want to air it yourself.
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2006, 07:33:21 PM »

I hope that what I heard the reason for Kim's dismissal is not true.  Very, very disturbing if found to be true.

WOULD YOU MIND TELLING US Huh

ALL YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR WAS STARTED A RUMOR WITH NO FACTS AND JUST ALOT OF BS

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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2006, 07:55:48 PM »

last nite in the paddock at balmoral it was going around that the guy who was paddock judge here was cught at caliexpo with ubsene porn on his computor at his desk on job.why didnt the edward guy tell us that. i hope those werent pictures of donalee doing hoochie lol. when will people lern to use computoe for good and not bad fixxes or dirty pictures.kim wont be getting job other than as helper to paco and enrickys cuisin at baymedows cutting grass cuorse lol.dirty picture of womens doing hoochies are bad and i dont wabt my amy or the littel one seing those things.truth
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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2006, 08:43:22 PM »

Dan wins  the award for the biggest cry baby  hands down
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2006, 09:25:10 PM »

C'mon you guys.  Many people have heard that Kim was terminated in CA.  The state that is home to every whack job liberal and clueless goof who acquitted O.J. should have better things to do than fire a horny guy - unless it was gay or kiddie porn, which no one has said.  I'll bet someone out there is "feelin' ashamed" though either way, now that his job is in the "Ol' Tank".  What is it with posters on BTW using work computers to look at and spread their filth ?  Don't they know it's a no-no to use work stations in such a reprehensible manner ?    trotter  TC

ASK JOE B. ... HE KNOWS !
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2006, 10:37:45 PM »

      Is it true he got fired for having nude pictures of the announcer posing with farm animals???  bull rat
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2006, 01:29:45 AM »

Those with integrity issues need not apply.
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2006, 01:42:28 AM »

bump
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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2006, 01:59:53 PM »

Anyone hear from the OL' TANKER ?  Those with integrity issues need not respond.
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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2006, 02:04:22 PM »

Dan wins the award for the biggest cry baby hands down
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2006, 02:08:10 PM »

Anyone hear from the OL' TANKER ?  Those with integrity issues need not respond.

How about "feelin old"?
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2006, 08:42:12 PM »

AB,

   Now you know if it were pictures of me it would have to be on a  large monitor.  Do you secretly have a crush on me or what?  You can't comment on anything that I am not brought up.  You know that is kind of sick, don't ya think?
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2006, 04:00:03 AM »

Kim Hankins drove in the amateur drivers race at Cal Expo Sat.Night... and finished 2nd... at 20-1.

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Mighty Oaks Legacy  Jason Maier  $2.80 $2.20 $2.10
 Fich Inter Letrado  Kim Hankins   $8.00 $7.20
 Gee Gee Whiz  Megan Beauchamp    $2.20
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2006, 06:54:26 AM »

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Mighty Oaks Legacy  Jason Maier  $2.80 $2.20 $2.10
 Fich Inter Letrado  Kim Hankins   $8.00 $7.20
 Gee Gee Whiz  Megan Beauchamp    $2.20
 
ISNT THAT HORSE THE ONE FROM SOUTH AMERICA THE DID THE ARTICLE ON IN HOOFBEATS FOR BEING DOUBLE GAITED?
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2006, 11:15:48 AM »

Kim Hankins drove in the amateur drivers race at Cal Expo Sat.Night... and finished 2nd... at 20-1.


SUPER !!
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2006, 01:12:11 PM »

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Mighty Oaks Legacy  Jason Maier  $2.80 $2.20 $2.10
 Fich Inter Letrado  Kim Hankins   $8.00 $7.20
 Gee Gee Whiz  Megan Beauchamp    $2.20
 
ISNT THAT HORSE THE ONE FROM SOUTH AMERICA THE DID THE ARTICLE ON IN HOOFBEATS FOR BEING DOUBLE GAITED?

Chucaro Ahijuna is the horse you are thinking of, I believe...

Fich Inter Letrado is a 3 claimer at Expo.

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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2006, 03:17:56 PM »

   I thought Kim drove,parimutuelly, about 25 or so years ago.

   How does he get amateur status?? 
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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2006, 04:33:30 PM »

Can't say what the criteria in California is for 'amateur status' but I can tell you that in the CKG Billings Series for example, an 'amateur' is described as a driver that has not accepted compensation for his/her driving during the past 10 years.   That's why there are several 'professionals' in the ranks.   Some handle only their own horses or donate any drivers fee to charity, thus keeping amateur status.   Some, are pretty good drivers and have at one time or another driven for a living.   Now, for a middle-aged fat guy like myself, I prefer to consider myself and many others to be in the 'novice' class!   
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« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2006, 04:36:00 PM »

This is the Truth of the story on Kim Hankins
Kim was asked to resign due to the forwarding of an adult photos sent to him from past Mardi Gra events .
He actidentltly forwarded this to a trainer /drivers wife at Cal Expo AOL email account  ( Gilbert Herrera Garcia Hernandez) He was sending it to a horseman Hernandez and WELL   SCREWED UP ....
He was notified by management they were called by wife who was STEAMING MAD and told to resigned which he REFUSED to do in an attempt to resolve this error he called Gilbert and Wife to apologies  (past performance of his duties in Cali was awesome) and took full responsibility of his ACT !
I have known Kim for quite a few years and have had some of the best conversations of how the harness racing business was MANY MOONS AGO! How his grandfather , father and family handled this business ( in good times and bad) and How he EARNED HIS FATHERS APPROVAL TO SIT BEHIND A HORSE .. Kim's uncle  Harry Burright who was well respected by horseman and I'm sorry to say as a kid i never met the man Kim always said THE HORSES COME FIRST WITH HIS FAMILY MANY WINTERS WERE SPENT EATING LEFTOVERS SO THE HORSES HAVE FEED
As for Kim Hankins all i can say we we all have made mistakes , will make many more mistakes in the future but AT LEAST HE DOES ACCEPT WHAT HAPPENED WAS UNPROFESSIONAL AND HE ACCEPTED BEING LET GO
As for my OPINION He was let go and the Cal Expo will have lost a good man
If anybody has another story please email me
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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2006, 05:01:46 PM »

River,

That was the story I was told last week.

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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2006, 05:06:58 PM »

I saw those pictures.  No big deal, IMO.  No reason to broom someone out IMO. 
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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2006, 06:04:55 PM »

You have to get an operation from a plastic surgeon to reclaim your amateurity.
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2006, 05:44:25 PM »

Can't say what the criteria in California is for 'amateur status' but I can tell you that in the CKG Billings Series for example, an 'amateur' is described as a driver that has not accepted compensation for his/her driving during the past 10 years.   That's why there are several 'professionals' in the ranks.   Some handle only their own horses or donate any drivers fee to charity, thus keeping amateur status.   Some, are pretty good drivers and have at one time or another driven for a living.   Now, for a middle-aged fat guy like myself, I prefer to consider myself and many others to be in the 'novice' class!   


You've got it, Dale.  He qualifies because it's been years since he raced in the PM races.

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