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Author Topic: Giant Oak Best EVER?  (Read 1708 times)
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« on: February 06, 2011, 07:55:51 PM »

Is Giant Oak The Best Illinois Bred Horse In History? What DO You Guys Think?
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 08:16:15 PM »

No. You forgot about Bucks Boy.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 08:22:38 PM »

Black Tie Affair?
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 09:14:07 PM »

Black Tie Affair?

BTA wasn't an ILL Bred....maybe FL?  Buck's Boy is probably still the best ILL Bred to date.  Although, Giant Oak has now passed, in my mind, Mystery Giver, Polar Expadition and Fort Prado.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 10:59:56 PM »

giant oak just won one major race,,,,,,,,best ever,NEVER AND NOT CLOSE    but something to root for ,,,,,,
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 07:56:26 AM »

Black Tie Affair was bred in Ireland.  Nice to see the  light bulb finally turned on w/ Giant Oak.  He was a bust as a 3 year old.

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 08:37:18 AM »

Hope this info shows correctly....Sorry, but I couldn't get graded stakes earnings.   I would have to say Buck's Boy is still far and away the best Illinois Bred horse (overall $$, Win % and ITM %).   I'm glad Giank Oak is continuing to run later in life, maybe even Dubai.

             Starts       Wins     Place      Show       Total Earnings    % Win   % ITM
Buck's Boy   30   16   5   2     $ 2,750,148   53%   77%
Polar Expedition   49   20   5   7     $ 1,491,071   41%   65%
Giant Oak   24   5   5   3     $ 1,256,677   21%   54%
Mystery Giver   43   13   8   3     $ 1,244,715    30%   56%
Fort Prado   59   18   10   8     $ 1,212,829    31%   61%
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 04:22:29 PM »

Hope this info shows correctly....Sorry, but I couldn't get graded stakes earnings.   I would have to say Buck's Boy is still far and away the best Illinois Bred horse (overall $$, Win % and ITM %).   I'm glad Giank Oak is continuing to run later in life, maybe even Dubai.

             Starts       Wins     Place      Show       Total Earnings    % Win   % ITM
Buck's Boy   30   16   5   2     $ 2,750,148   53%   77%
Polar Expedition   49   20   5   7     $ 1,491,071   41%   65%
Giant Oak   24   5   5   3     $ 1,256,677   21%   54%
Mystery Giver   43   13   8   3     $ 1,244,715    30%   56%
Fort Prado   59   18   10   8     $ 1,212,829    31%   61%

I posted this last fall.

Here you go again -- should jog your memories.

ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
   ILLINOIS-REGISTERED THOROUGHBRED WINNERS OF OVER $225,000
THRU NOVEMBER 2006

BUCK’S BOY                        $ 2,750,148*
POLAR EXPEDITION              1,491,071*
MYSTERY GIVER           1,226,225
WESTERN PLAYBOY           1,128,449*
TWO ITEM LIMIT           1,060,585*
LADY SHIRL           1,001,923*

"MYSTERY GIVER died Oct. 18 at Hawthorne of a heart attack, according to trainer Chris Block, whose family, Team Block, bred and campaigned the gelding. Mystery Giver was working as a stable pony for Block's barn, and a horse he was ponying into a workout had just broken off to breeze when Mystery Giver suddenly took a couple uncertain steps and went down. "He fell over and died right there," Block said."

"Mystery Giver got injured after the 2004 Arlington Million and though he returned to racing in spring 2006 was never the same horse again. In 2007 he was retired from racing,  but not the racetrack, where he continued to live and work until his death last month."

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/23549

He worked to the end but it sounds like he enjoyed his job.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 05:18:23 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 07:34:29 PM »

"MYSTERY GIVER died Oct. 18 at Hawthorne of a heart attack, according to trainer Chris Block, whose family, Team Block, bred and campaigned the gelding. Mystery Giver was working as a stable pony for Block's barn, and a horse he was ponying into a workout had just broken off to breeze when Mystery Giver suddenly took a couple uncertain steps and went down. "He fell over and died right there," Block said."

"Mystery Giver got injured after the 2004 Arlington Million and though he returned to racing in spring 2006 was never the same horse again. In 2007 he was retired from racing,  but not the racetrack, where he continued to live and work until his death last month."

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/23549

He worked to the end but it sounds like he enjoyed his job.

RIP Mystery Giver. Good honest horse.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2015, 07:43:32 PM »

OMG - not even in the discussion!
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2015, 02:31:00 AM »

Updated chart:

             Starts       Wins     Place      Show       Total Earnings    % Win   % ITM
Buck's Boy   30   16   5   2     $ 2,750,148   53%   77%
The Pizza Man    25    15    2    2   $1,748,537
Work All Week    19    13    4    1   $1,511,071
Polar Expedition   49   20   5   7     $ 1,491,071   41%   65%
Giant Oak   24   5   5   3     $ 1,256,677   21%   54%
Mystery Giver   43   13   8   3     $ 1,244,715    30%   56%
Fort Prado   59   18   10   8     $ 1,212,829    31%   61%
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2015, 12:38:27 AM »

I would hardly be one to dis Buck's Boy, for obvious reasons, but it is remarkable everyone has overlooked:

DUST COMMANDER.

All he did was win the Kentucky Derby.

My own list would have The Pizza Man ahead of Buck also.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2015, 11:57:12 AM »

giant oak just won one major race,,,,,,,,best ever,NEVER AND NOT CLOSE    but something to root for ,,,,,,
He won the Grade I Clark and the Grade I Donn Handicap
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