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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2006, 02:02:49 PM »

So it was sn or you that Harmer said he wasn't going to sell any horses to. Interesting.

Good luck with your stable. We will all watch to be sure sn doesn't improve any horses by 4 seconds, as we have all learned recently that is the sure sign of illegal drugs.
Go ask Mr. Two-Face Doc if he doesn't dance a jig every day Tony is gone and if his blood pressure doesn't skyrocket every Friday.  Even that guy can't stand the brown and white devil and struts up and down the hallowed halls of Gestapoland saying he wanted to get rid of your idol for years.   trotter  TC
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2006, 02:03:18 PM »

So it was sn or you that Harmer said he wasn't going to sell any horses to. Interesting.

Good luck with your stable. We will all watch to be sure sn doesn't improve any horses by 4 seconds, as we have all learned recently that is the sure sign of illegal drugs.

I don't think so. SN already owns one that came from the Harmer barn. You don't need illegal drugs to improve one 4 seconds off Harmer.

    THAT'S " ML'S BOY " IN FRONT !!!!!!!  
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2006, 02:03:31 PM »

I got news for you, laddie. Half of " Team *** " will be at Hawthorne and the other half will be involved in a different capacity.

    The ***'s don't lie.

    The only person that failed to get a horse to the security barn on time was my dumb ass groom who got paid to have the horse there. I however did fail to honor the declaration of a horse when my wife got hit by a car and was almost killed on the street outside the farm. Is that all you can come up with, failure to get a horse to the security barn?

    I seem to recall Harmer being fined for " USING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE TO A RACING OFFICIAL " Now that's serious shit. Dan *** never used offensive language to a racing official.

P.S.
       Johnny Cochran is DEAD, goof.


And Paul Mccartney is dead!
LOL!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2006, 02:06:54 PM »

Here's the truth.

  Burton was once in the business but was thrown out by the Johnston's because he was on the track jogging a horse and ran into the water truck and then tried to sue the Johnston's.

 The NJhorseman was banned from racing in NJ because he got involved in some sort of lawsuit and lost so they banned him from racing.

  Tom Wendt was charged with insurance fraud so he was banned from the tracks in Illinois.

  Joe B. was caught smoking weed in the grandstand at Maywood by security so he was banned from Maywood and that's why he goes to Oakbrook.

   Doc tried to fix a race with Tavern Talk. Also Bob Altepeter once told me he caught Doc cheating at a draw.   


Two more things Dan.

1. You are the greatest trainer ever!!

2. The moon is made of green cheese!!

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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2006, 02:09:31 PM »

Two more things Dan.

1. You are the greatest trainer ever!!

2. The moon is made of green cheese!!



Two more things Burton

 1. Learn to stay away from water trucks.

 2. The track is not made for clowns.
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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2006, 02:15:14 PM »

And maybe you resent the truth from the person who said you were banned after you lost your lawsuit.

   Let me clue you in on something Mr. I went to stewards school. If a person gets " Banned " or " ruled off " a notice will be posted on the board in the racing office where ever such person is " ruled off " from as in the case with many who were " ruled off ". This notice will also be on the record of the person who was " ruled off ".

   Don't tell me that Jim Pantaleano's, Randy Tharps names aren't on the board at Northfield. And don't tell me all the other horseman who were " thrown out " or " ruled off " don't have that on their records.

   Any kind of ruling handed down is recorded on a horsesman's record. Being denied stalls won't be on a horseman's record. But, when the terms " RULED OFF THE GROUNDS " OR  BANNED FROM THE GROUNDS " are used then that would appear on a person's record.

   Make yourself a phone call and ask Langley or Doc if Dan *** was was EVER denied stalls. The answer will be NO.  


Gee, Dan if you insist on perpetuating that lawsuit lie, you're every bit as bad as the people you accuse of lying about you.  Grin

I just happen to have graduated from the University of Louisville's judges and stewards program, which is run by and for ARCI, the USTA, the Jockey Club, and the American Quarter Horse Association, and I can tell you that what you are saying about being "ruled off" appearing on your "record" simply isn't true. Being "ruled off" is the action of a private property owner (racetrack in this case) barring you from the premises. It is not a suspension, revocation or any action against your license. I will remind you that Larry Stalbaum was allowed to drive at Hawthorne a couple of years ago as he was duly licensed by the IRB, but having been "ruled off" by Balmoral/Maywood, he was denied racing privileges at those tracks. The same was true for your friend Ron Marsh, until Balmoral/Maywood management decided to grant him racing privileges.

A "notice" from management posted at the racing office is not the same as a stewards or judges ruling.

While being "ruled off" is generally a matter of common knowledge and might affect a state's decision to issue a license as it is a question usually asked on the license application, it is not part of your record of fines and suspensions. When the ARCI record uses the word "ruling" it means rulings by judges stewards and racing commissions...in other words matters affecting your license.
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2006, 03:10:55 PM »



While being "ruled off" is generally a matter of common knowledge and might affect a state's decision to issue a license as it is a question usually asked on the license application, it is not part of your record of fines and suspensions. When the ARCI record uses the word "ruling" it means rulings by judges stewards and racing commissions...in other words matters affecting your license.

So, then it could be true what was said about you being " ruled off " after losing your lawsuit, right?

    It could also be true that Burton was " ruled off " after he tried to sue the Johnston's after he hit a water truck jogging a horse on the track without a trainers license, right.

   It could also be true that Joe B. was " ruled off " because he was caught smoking grass in the grandstand at Maywood Park, right?

   What is FACT and not true is that Dan *** was EVER " ruled off ". Dan *** was a well known trainer in Chicago, not a couple of goof owners and a grandstand goof who nobody knew. A simple call to Langley about Dan *** ever being ruled off or thrown out can put all the lies to rest. Make the call, Paul. You know Langley ask him the simple question if you want the answer so bad.   
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2006, 03:17:47 PM »

So, then it could be true what was said about you being " ruled off " after losing your lawsuit, right?

    It could also be true that Burton was " ruled off " after he tried to sue the Johnston's after he hit a water truck jogging a horse on the track without a trainers license, right.

   It could also be true that Joe B. was " ruled off " because he was caught smoking grass in the grandstand at Maywood Park, right?

   What is FACT and not true is that Dan *** was EVER " ruled off ". Dan *** was a well known trainer in Chicago, not a couple of goof owners and a grandstand goof who nobody knew. A simple call to Langley about Dan *** ever being ruled off or thrown out can put all the lies to rest. Make the call, Paul. You know Langley ask him the simple question if you want the answer so bad.   


Dan:
Not only have I never been "ruled off", I've never lost a lawsuit, so this "information" is bogus on two counts.

Second, who ever said I wanted to know if you were ever ruled off? I'm not the one who keeps saying you were, and since I have no personal knowledge that you were, I wouldn't say that. I'm not the one posting rumors.

This is really laughable, because you keep pointing a finger at the wrong person.
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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2006, 03:29:56 PM »

Dan:
Not only have I never been "ruled off", I've never lost a lawsuit, so this "information" is bogus on two counts.

Second, who ever said I wanted to know if you were ever ruled off? I'm not the one who keeps saying you were, and since I have no personal knowledge that you were, I wouldn't say that. I'm not the one posting rumors.

This is really laughable, because you keep pointing a finger at the wrong person.

When I heard about you being " ruled off " I thought it was just hearsay myself. I wondered why someone would make up such a story. I guess it was just to see if they could piss you off the way the ***hole who post lies about me want only to piss me off.

    One thing I believe you should agree with is the fact NOTHING on my record indicates I had any integrity issues like Doc told Joe B. I have. If I had integrity issues the IRB would not have approached me and asked me if I would accept an offer from them to reduce my suspension for TRAINERS RESPONSIBILITY from 1 year to 6 months after 4 LONG years of doing NOTHING to me.

    Paul, I have never been involved in a lawsuit. Since you have can you give me some advice on whether or not you think I can sue Doc for slandering my name to Joe B. without good cause since I never had any integrity issues in my entire life? 
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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2006, 04:24:50 PM »

I never said you did say I was banned. I however do resent your post above that just because I had only 2 positives in 20 years doesn't mean I couldn't be banned and does not answer the question if I was " ruled off ".

    Instead of you saying. " Dan, I don't see anything on your 20 year record that would indicate that you had integrity issues ". No, you choose to still put doubts in the minds of the viewers of this forum by the way you worded your post. And for that I resent what you posted.




Dan,

    Paulie always want to twist everything around. he says he resent your post-lmao what a fawkin goofbal this dude is. Go write your book  Paulie on "How I Busted Out as a harness owner"
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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2006, 04:29:15 PM »

Gee, Dan if you insist on perpetuating that lawsuit lie, you're every bit as bad as the people you accuse of lying about you.  Grin

I just happen to have graduated from the University of Louisville's judges and stewards program, which is run by and for ARCI, the USTA, the Jockey Club, and the American Quarter Horse Association, and I can tell you that what you are saying about being "ruled off" appearing on your "record" simply isn't true. Being "ruled off" is the action of a private property owner (racetrack in this case) barring you from the premises. It is not a suspension, revocation or any action against your license. I will remind you that Larry Stalbaum was allowed to drive at Hawthorne a couple of years ago as he was duly licensed by the IRB, but having been "ruled off" by Balmoral/Maywood, he was denied racing privileges at those tracks. The same was true for your friend Ron Marsh, until Balmoral/Maywood management decided to grant him racing privileges.

A "notice" from management posted at the racing office is not the same as a stewards or judges ruling.

While being "ruled off" is generally a matter of common knowledge and might affect a state's decision to issue a license as it is a question usually asked on the license application, it is not part of your record of fines and suspensions. When the ARCI record uses the word "ruling" it means rulings by judges stewards and racing commissions...in other words matters affecting your license.



I didnt know clowns could graduate from the judges and stewards program..
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« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2006, 04:32:07 PM »



I didnt know clowns could graduate from the judges and stewards program..

here are the current Bmp stewards, top graduates in the program. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2006, 08:24:41 PM »

When I heard about you being " ruled off " I thought it was just hearsay myself. I wondered why someone would make up such a story. I guess it was just to see if they could piss you off the way the ***hole who post lies about me want only to piss me off.

    One thing I believe you should agree with is the fact NOTHING on my record indicates I had any integrity issues like Doc told Joe B. I have. If I had integrity issues the IRB would not have approached me and asked me if I would accept an offer from them to reduce my suspension for TRAINERS RESPONSIBILITY from 1 year to 6 months after 4 LONG years of doing NOTHING to me.

    Paul, I have never been involved in a lawsuit. Since you have can you give me some advice on whether or not you think I can sue Doc for slandering my name to Joe B. without good cause since I never had any integrity issues in my entire life? 


Dan:
I have no reason to believe that you have had any integrity-related problems.

I can't give you advice on a slander lawsuit, because I have no personal experience with one. The lawsuits I've been party to have involved business issues revolving around the sale and purchase of horses at public auction.
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« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2006, 08:42:28 PM »

Dan:
I have no reason to believe that you have had any integrity-related problems.

I can't give you advice on a slander lawsuit, because I have no personal experience with one. The lawsuits I've been party to have involved business issues revolving around the sale and purchase of horses at public auction.


Now he wants to give you advice dan if he could. trust me if he had the experience he would be gicing advice-lmao
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