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« on: December 28, 2010, 05:32:07 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 01:44:14 PM »

Don McCallum later worked for the IHHA. Not sure about the S Smith though. Will try and look to see if I have any programs or info about him.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 01:56:25 PM »

 DeLeon Kidd had 10 consecutive victories in 1966 (from Vernon Downs web site)
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 02:03:40 PM »

many thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 03:21:36 AM »

Don McCallum later worked for the IHHA. Not sure about the S Smith though. Will try and look to see if I have any programs or info about him.
I believe McCallum was the dealer for high stakes backstretch poker games after his training career petered out.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 12:41:37 PM »

This is off the thread but Mighty GE was a great mudder in his time he would win many in the mud.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 01:45:42 PM »

Reed's Beauty
A top race mare for Don Busse and Merlyn Welch.
She also produced one for sure but maybe two American National winners  for Daryl Busse and Welch.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 03:12:51 PM »

who drove and trained knight deposit, maybe phil milburn or chris boring?
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 03:51:27 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2010, 12:49:12 AM »

wow this is good stuff, i remember it all as i read it. New Kirk used to post parade last and he had to go the opposite way to post. new Kirk was a crazy horse i used to read about him being not right in the head. anymore stuff like you posted about that era. Do you remember a driver named Kenny james and the name of his good mare?
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 12:53:11 AM »

i remember Rusty Range was driven by Willard Niles, nice horse. Andy anderson had a big late Brush and at the end of his career a driver by the name of ronnie weinberg had him, but he was kind of sore at the end.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 02:54:21 AM »

wow this is good stuff, i remember it all as i read it. New Kirk used to post parade last and he had to go the opposite way to post. new Kirk was a crazy horse i used to read about him being not right in the head. anymore stuff like you posted about that era. Do you remember a driver named Kenny james and the name of his good mare?
Ken James died of a heart attack at a tavern after morning training,at about 47 years old.Raced a horse named Sugar Moon for many years who almost never won unless it rained.He had a pretty decent mare for a while.Can't think of her name.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 03:38:14 AM »

Kenny James had brown and tan colors and Sugar Moon was my Moms favorite horse. I believe that Reggie Colgan owned him. And he did love the mud.And Kenny being in a tavern in the morning would not surprise many anyone who knew him. How about His Grace-a high strung trotter Don Busse raced. Would break and still win.Bonanza Bill, another Busse steed. Flashie Ruth and her 15 length lead around the last turn at Washington Park and wonder if she would hold on.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 03:39:52 AM »

I've two mentions of Ken James. 1964 & 1957.

A 1955 Mention at Maywood of Kenneth James.

 The 1957 was a winners circle photo at Cahokia. It's not great quality, however acceptable.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2010, 03:45:14 AM »

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         Nothing on the Busse horses.
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2010, 04:24:34 AM »

anymore stuff like you posted about that era.

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          I'm going through these magazines sequentially (at least the issues I've have where I'm residing) and digitizing the data from the issues.

 None of the summaries are presented here in their entirety (with only rare exception), rather I attempt to provide interesting items.
 The mainstream and younger generations of harness racing are not generally interested in these older items.

 I've been filling in the first names where the articles used initials when originally published, as in this threads beginning, to maximize future references.

 I've more than 17,000 article digitized (converted to text) and more than 22,000 images, and the numbers grow each day (at least until I get bored and require a break).

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 I should clarify that Chicago and/or Illinois topics are only a small portion of my archived data.
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2010, 12:57:40 PM »

naut,
         Nothing on the Busse horses.

Those were all just cheap claimers but made for lasting memories. Sometimes the 2500 claimers made more of an impression than the Invites.
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 01:50:32 PM »

Thanks for the trivia, i love it. Long live 187th and halsted and washington park.Great memories.
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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 01:59:30 PM »

I remember going out there for the double with my brother( I wasn't old enough to drive yet). If we lost, we went back  to our local grocery store, cashed a check and headed back to the track. Lived 10 minutes from there. Kinda silly stuff now but back then it was a lot of fun.
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 02:13:52 PM »

Those were all just cheap claimers but made for lasting memories. Sometimes the 2500 claimers made more of an impression than the Invites.

 I typed a long reply, then hit the wrong button and the damned thing disappeared.
 Not typing again.

 It's been a real joy for me, that as I'm archiving these old materials, I find that some of the formerly cheap-old-warriors were prominent youngster.
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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 02:16:40 PM »

Thanks for the trivia, i love it. Long live 187th and halsted and washington park.Great memories.

 There's somebody on eBay selling multiple newspapers archives photo's.
 Among the Chicago Trib photo's are two of Wash Park after the fire.
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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 07:24:04 PM »

speaking about Ill racing in the 60's -I went to school down state - but went to the race 2-3 times a week - I remember a horse -  I think his name was Rusty Range (?) he won a bunch of races -anyone remember him?
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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 07:34:09 PM »

Who was the first three-year-old to race faster than two-minutes at Sportsman's Park?
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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 09:28:30 PM »

speaking about Ill racing in the 60's -I went to school down state - but went to the race 2-3 times a week - I remember a horse -  I think his name was Rusty Range (?) he won a bunch of races -anyone remember him?
     Yes williard niles drove him.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 10:41:24 PM »

Who was the first three-year-old to race faster than two-minutes at Sportsman's Park?
I will guess The 1954 American National won by Race Time with Jimmy Arthur in 1:59
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2010, 11:46:12 PM »

 
  Bret Hanover ran big time at Sportsman's Park , but can't say was the first.
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2011, 01:18:17 AM »

 
  Bret Hanover ran big time at Sportsman's Park , but can't say was the first.

 Bret wasn't known for running, perhaps that was his race at
Arlington Wink
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 Bret was a 2YO in 1964.
 Perhaps your recollection is from 1965?
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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2011, 05:30:36 AM »

I will guess The 1954 American National won by Race Time with Jimmy Arthur in 1:59
Yes 1954 was a typo. I meant to post 1964.
I was thinking that the first 2:00 mile would have come in The American National. When I looked up the American Nationals on the USTA. website I discovered that they were first raced as The Trotting Club Stakes at Sedalia MO. from 1948 -1950.  Who Knew?

The chronicles of rich and historic events is a free service posted under History Of Major Races in turn posted under Racing.
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2011, 08:01:30 AM »

The chronicles of rich and historic events is a free service posted under History Of Major Races in turn posted under Racing.

 I was unable to locate this just the other day when attempting to look something up an inquiry.

 The saved link I had on the USTA website was dead.
 I'd assumed the USTA just removed the page, rather than keep it updated.

 Was able to locate History of Major Races

 Many thanks.
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2011, 11:06:47 AM »

@Wilderness, was Willard Niles related to Archie Niles?
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2011, 11:41:43 AM »

Rose and Archie Niles Sr., had a dozen or more kids.

 Kinda doubt you ever saw Archie Sr race and assuming your referring to Jr.

 No idea of the order or even all their names.
Archie Jr, Willard and Howard, one of the girls (Lorraine) was a friend of a relative. One of the other Niles Girls is married to Fred Webster Jr.

 Believe I've an obit on Rose Niles somewhere, however unable to locate.

 The story goes, that Rose and Archie Sr. used to load all the kids in the transportation and spend the summers at the Mich Fairs.
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2011, 05:15:08 PM »

There was a race with rosco bosco and bosco rosco and bosco in it however i forgot who won it at washington park.
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2011, 05:43:10 PM »

There was a race with rosco bosco and bosco rosco and bosco in it however i forgot who won it at washington park.

 One or the other must have changed race classes.

 Wednesday Sept 23, 1964 Rosco Bosco raced in a 2k Cond.

 Saturday Sept 26, Bosco Rosco raced in the 7.5k Invite and then shipped out to Calif (multiple horsemen that year left Chicago early because of a pending rail stirke, which was settled before the Cal meets started). Bosco Rosco was in the Russel Valles Key stable.
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2011, 09:36:34 PM »

Rose and Archie Niles Sr., had a dozen or more kids.

 Kinda doubt you ever saw Archie Sr race and assuming your referring to Jr.

 No idea of the order or even all their names.
Archie Jr, Willard and Howard, one of the girls (Lorraine) was a friend of a relative. One of the other Niles Girls is married to Fred Webster Jr.

 Believe I've an obit on Rose Niles somewhere, however unable to locate.

 The story goes, that Rose and Archie Sr. used to load all the kids in the transportation and spend the summers at the Mich Fairs.
Archie Niles Jr. raced at R.R.,believe he also had a bar in Westbury L.I. called The Trotter Inn, if I'm not mistaken!
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2011, 10:11:56 PM »

Archie Niles Jr. raced at R.R.,believe he also had a bar in Westbury L.I. called The Trotter Inn, if I'm not mistaken!

 Vegas,
            If Archie Jr., did?
 I'm not aware it. however my lack of awareness is not anything definitive.

 I could inquire with some Mich old-timers if it's necessary?

 Howard Niles ran his own Horse transport company. Somehow even shipped a few by air.
 Believe I've ad showing one of Howard's trucks.
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