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« on: December 28, 2010, 05:32:07 AM »

I'm hoping for some help on two first names at Washington Park during 1963.

This photo text from the Mar 20, 1963 Harness Horse:
Reaching the wire comfortably for his second straight in three 1962 starts is the 5-year-old Mighty H. gelding Mighty G. E., with his owner-trainer-driver Virgil Wentz aboard. Second in the 2:074/5 mile Thursday, March 14, is Mighty Victor (2-McCallum) with DeLeon Kidd (1-S. Smith) third.
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 DeLeon Kidd had some type of win streak during 1962, no idea if Smith was the driver then. Too many Smith's in my data and not enough at Chitown tracks.

 McCallum, I've nothing on.

 Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 01:44:14 PM »

Don McCallum later worked for the IHHA. Not sure about the S Smith though. Will try and look to see if I have any programs or info about him.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 01:56:25 PM »

 DeLeon Kidd had 10 consecutive victories in 1966 (from Vernon Downs web site)
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 02:03:40 PM »

many thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 03:21:36 AM »

Don McCallum later worked for the IHHA. Not sure about the S Smith though. Will try and look to see if I have any programs or info about him.
I believe McCallum was the dealer for high stakes backstretch poker games after his training career petered out.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 12:41:37 PM »

This is off the thread but Mighty GE was a great mudder in his time he would win many in the mud.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 01:29:12 PM »

This is off the thread but Mighty GE was a great mudder in his time he would win many in the mud.

 from same Mar 20, 1963 issue, however from summary:
Mighty G. E., a 17-1 outsider, and Clever Braden, even money choice of the crowd of 8,792, shared the pacing honors Thursday.
Fifth as the field of nine swung into the final quarter, Mighty G. E. swung past the favored Mighty Victory and sprinted to a one-length triumph in 2:074/5 in the eighth event. It was the second win in three starts for the five-year-old son of Mighty H. owned and driven by Virgil Wentz of Tomah, Wis.
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 From the May 27, 1964 Harness Horse and Washington Park:

Mighty G. E., a disappointment most of the season, charged up in the stretch Thursday to capture the featured Klatawah Pace. The 6‑year‑old gelding had won only one of 12 starts and accordingly was sent away at odds of 6 to 1 by a crowd of 9,651. For most of the race, he looked the part, and even at the top of the stretch was still seventh.

Here, tho, Virgil Wentz started to make his move with Mighty G. E. By the eighth pole, Mighty G. E. was fourth as Cedar Crest Delvin held a slight lead on Knight Deposit and Reed's Beauty. Mighty G. E. passed the fading Knight Deposit at the 16th pole and then caught the other two in the final 70 yards to win by a neck in 2:013/5. Reed's Beauty finished second, a nose in front of Cedar Crest Delvin.

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 01:45:42 PM »

Reed's Beauty
A top race mare for Don Busse and Merlyn Welch.
She also produced one for sure but maybe two American National winners  for Daryl Busse and Welch.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 01:53:43 PM »

From Mar 1985 Hoof Beats;

DARYL BUSSE: There's a lot of places you can hit, on the shaft or something like that. Of course, it's been taken away a little bit with the new bikes, and the new sharp angle shafts.
You can crack one right around the shaft, and maybe catch them with the end of the whip on the belly or something. You can crack one on the shaft and make it sound-anything to make that horse stay alive.
I have seen over the years, like Marc said, how people used to shuffle their bikes.
My old man was a great one for picking one up and kicking one in the (rump), which kept a lot of them alive, ones that wouldn't take a lot of whipping. Reed's Beauty, and Roxburgh Bob-you touch them with a whip, and I mean they stop. You couldn't hit them, but you could lift them and boot them in the (rump).
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 01:58:43 PM »

from May 1963 Hoof Beats:

REED'S BEAUTY IN DASH-WINNING LIST
Reed's Beauty, with a summary in 1962 of 35 starts, 17 wins, six seconds, and one third, was omitted from the Leading Dash-Winning Horses in 1962 under the Three-year-old Pacer category in May Hoof Beats. Her 17 wins as a sophomore pacing filly puts her in a tie with Peachadon, that had 17 wins in 37 starts, Leading dash--winning three-year-old pacer was Rusty Range with 26 wins in 35 starts.
Reed's Beauty was a three-year-chestnut filly in 1962. She is a four--year-old now. The Index to Starters in the 1962 Year Book should be changed accordingly.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 03:12:51 PM »

who drove and trained knight deposit, maybe phil milburn or chris boring?
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 03:51:27 PM »

who drove and trained knight deposit, maybe phil milburn or chris boring?

This isn't exactly layman's-English Wink
From March 20, 1963 Harness Horse and Wash Pk:
New Kirk's victory helped Busse square accounts with Williams who reined Rockette Forbes to a nose triumph over Busse and his top pacer just a week ago, and in the $5,000 event prior to the feature drove Knight Deposit to a two and one-quarter length triumph over Reed's Beauty and Busse. New Kirk, pushed hard by the "Rockette," paced the fastest mile of the night, 2:092/5, over a heavy track en route to its third win in four starts this season.
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From May 13, 1964 Harness Horse and Wash Pk:
Earlier in the week, the five-race win skein of Ernie Jordan, came to end in a $5,000 feature when Knight Deposit led him to the wire by 51/2-lengths in 2:04 over a sloppy track. Both were well up in the early going behind the pacesetting Edgewood Brook. Rounding the far turn Bob Williams swung Knight Deposit out and took aim at the leader with Ernie Jordan and reinsman Bob Farrington dose at his heels. With about a quarter of mile to go he had collared the leader, then held off Ernie Jordan when the latter moved out for racing room.
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A Dec 19, 1962 Harness Horse and Ben White Raceway article has thew horse (Knight Deposit) in the Bob Williams stable.
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from June 26, 1963 Harness Horse and Sportsman's Park:
Robert Williams, who is also making a strong bid for leading driver honors scored a double victory winning the sixth race with favored Bernie Anderson and the ninth race with Andy Anderson. The latter was timed in a speedy 2:033/5. He also reined Knight Deposit home in the same time to win Tuesday's co-featured pace.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2010, 12:49:12 AM »

wow this is good stuff, i remember it all as i read it. New Kirk used to post parade last and he had to go the opposite way to post. new Kirk was a crazy horse i used to read about him being not right in the head. anymore stuff like you posted about that era. Do you remember a driver named Kenny james and the name of his good mare?
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 12:53:11 AM »

i remember Rusty Range was driven by Willard Niles, nice horse. Andy anderson had a big late Brush and at the end of his career a driver by the name of ronnie weinberg had him, but he was kind of sore at the end.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 02:54:21 AM »

wow this is good stuff, i remember it all as i read it. New Kirk used to post parade last and he had to go the opposite way to post. new Kirk was a crazy horse i used to read about him being not right in the head. anymore stuff like you posted about that era. Do you remember a driver named Kenny james and the name of his good mare?
Ken James died of a heart attack at a tavern after morning training,at about 47 years old.Raced a horse named Sugar Moon for many years who almost never won unless it rained.He had a pretty decent mare for a while.Can't think of her name.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 03:38:14 AM »

Kenny James had brown and tan colors and Sugar Moon was my Moms favorite horse. I believe that Reggie Colgan owned him. And he did love the mud.And Kenny being in a tavern in the morning would not surprise many anyone who knew him. How about His Grace-a high strung trotter Don Busse raced. Would break and still win.Bonanza Bill, another Busse steed. Flashie Ruth and her 15 length lead around the last turn at Washington Park and wonder if she would hold on.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 03:39:52 AM »

I've two mentions of Ken James. 1964 & 1957.

A 1955 Mention at Maywood of Kenneth James.

 The 1957 was a winners circle photo at Cahokia. It's not great quality, however acceptable.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2010, 03:45:14 AM »

naut,
         Nothing on the Busse horses.
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2010, 04:24:34 AM »

anymore stuff like you posted about that era.

 Battle,
          I'm going through these magazines sequentially (at least the issues I've have where I'm residing) and digitizing the data from the issues.

 None of the summaries are presented here in their entirety (with only rare exception), rather I attempt to provide interesting items.
 The mainstream and younger generations of harness racing are not generally interested in these older items.

 I've been filling in the first names where the articles used initials when originally published, as in this threads beginning, to maximize future references.

 I've more than 17,000 article digitized (converted to text) and more than 22,000 images, and the numbers grow each day (at least until I get bored and require a break).

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 I should clarify that Chicago and/or Illinois topics are only a small portion of my archived data.
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2010, 12:57:40 PM »

naut,
         Nothing on the Busse horses.

Those were all just cheap claimers but made for lasting memories. Sometimes the 2500 claimers made more of an impression than the Invites.
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 01:50:32 PM »

Thanks for the trivia, i love it. Long live 187th and halsted and washington park.Great memories.
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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 01:59:30 PM »

I remember going out there for the double with my brother( I wasn't old enough to drive yet). If we lost, we went back  to our local grocery store, cashed a check and headed back to the track. Lived 10 minutes from there. Kinda silly stuff now but back then it was a lot of fun.
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 02:13:52 PM »

Those were all just cheap claimers but made for lasting memories. Sometimes the 2500 claimers made more of an impression than the Invites.

 I typed a long reply, then hit the wrong button and the damned thing disappeared.
 Not typing again.

 It's been a real joy for me, that as I'm archiving these old materials, I find that some of the formerly cheap-old-warriors were prominent youngster.
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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 02:16:40 PM »

Thanks for the trivia, i love it. Long live 187th and halsted and washington park.Great memories.

 There's somebody on eBay selling multiple newspapers archives photo's.
 Among the Chicago Trib photo's are two of Wash Park after the fire.
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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 07:24:04 PM »

speaking about Ill racing in the 60's -I went to school down state - but went to the race 2-3 times a week - I remember a horse -  I think his name was Rusty Range (?) he won a bunch of races -anyone remember him?
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