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« on: April 07, 2006, 02:48:36 AM »

NO drugs found in Ryan Daileys APT.
No PROOF against Eric Ledford.
State Troopers testimony states : they have no proof Eric or any of the people in the barn
gave any horse a banned drug.
The dead horse in the barn MALOMAR MAN had a serious infection 5 days before he died.

I will go out on a limb:    EL will live to fight another BATTLE.

I PROMISE HEEDE KNOWS FOR SURE.

I will take on all rumor mongers on this post.
check the facts
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 02:51:29 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 03:13:48 AM »

Heede

If Eric lives to race again another day,  What about Seldon and the Daileys?  It doesn't clear them.  This is still going to derail the anaresp train.  It won't ever be business as usual.  Any inside info there?  Too much physical evidence to drop charges against Seldon, the Daileys and Dr. Witmer.  Eric will probably walk.  This is the caveat in this whole mess.  Having to have physical proof that Eric,  Seldon or the Daileys did the injecting of aranesp.  Without a confession the cheaters walk again.  Is this a great sport or what?
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 03:21:37 AM »

Soon I will be able to give a better account of what happened.  I talked to a friend of mine today.
I think alot of people jumped the gun.  I want to say that I'm not STUPID. I will say they are going
to have a hard time getting any charges to stick. My friend claims that the NJ authorities shot them
selfs in the foot today at the hearing.   I only hope that the RUMORS about phone taps,
servileness tape, and first hand testimony will back off.  This is a big statement BUT, THEY
DO NOT HAVE SHI& ON ERIC.  LETS see if

HEEDE DOES KNOW  Huh

IF I DON'T I got some bad INFO
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 06:55:34 AM »

Heedee,

  I am not saying you have been misled but here's some facts that make your persons story a little unbelievable.  If the horse had been sick for five days with an infection, why did they enter him to race?  He was in to go April 2 and scratched? They found the horse March 31st dead, so why would you enter a horse that is that sick? Those are the facts.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 07:01:14 AM »


DONNA LEE KNOWS!
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 07:33:11 AM »

Heedee,

  I am not saying you have been misled but here's some facts that make your persons story a little unbelievable.  If the horse had been sick for five days with an infection, why did they enter him to race?  He was in to go April 2 and scratched? They found the horse March 31st dead, so why would you enter a horse that is that sick? Those are the facts.

How about the facts of him training all those horses that he is not listed as trainer of.
How does Heede no anything hes just going by what Ledfoot is telling him. Geeee I think Eric would make the story sound like its in his favor and he didn't do anything wrong what do you think the lawyers are going to tell him to say. I DID IT!!! I DID IT!!!

HE WILL NEVER RACE ANOTHER HORSE IN JERSEY AGAIN!!! EVER!!! NOT HIM,NOT RYAN,  NOT SHELDON!!! SUPERMAN KNOWS
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 07:37:21 AM »

SUPERMAN KNOWS
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2006, 07:47:14 AM »

         You are the best EMP, you really have done a great job everyone loves all your information on this case. Keep up the good work.

Remember nothing will ever change in Illinois until we weed out all the crooks. You are one of the reasons that this is one of the greatest harness sites in the US believe me everyone loves getting updated on whats going on.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2006, 07:53:47 AM »

Thanks Superman! Now that you and Metropolis are behind me......

EMP KNOWS!
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2006, 07:54:02 AM »

heede knows... emp knows.. donna lee knows.. superman knows.. i know... everyone but the powers that be in illinois racing knows...hey houston.. i think we have found the problem....
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2006, 07:57:17 AM »

OFFSTRIDE KNOWS!

AND IS BACK ON STRIDE!
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2006, 08:13:54 AM »

THE IRB KNOWS? THEY MAY NOW!
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2006, 08:16:59 AM »

THE IRB KNOWS? THEY MAY NOW!
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they may know now..because they read it on barn to wire...
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2006, 08:23:43 AM »

NO drugs found in Ryan Daileys APT.
No PROOF against Eric Ledford.
State Troopers testimony states : they have no proof Eric or any of the people in the barn
gave any horse a banned drug.
The dead horse in the barn MALOMAR MAN had a serious infection 5 days before he died.

I will go out on a limb:    EL will live to fight another BATTLE.

I PROMISE HEEDE KNOWS FOR SURE.

I will take on all rumor mongers on this post.
check the facts


Heede:

"NO drugs found in Ryan Daileys APT."  Huh I don't know where you got that one. Here's the state police testimony at the hearing:

"FREEHOLD — Last week's barn raid by the State Police, which led to race-fixing charges against prominent horseman Eric Ledford, included a sweep at the home of two stable employees that uncovered banned blood-doping drugs stowed "all over the house" and in a garage refrigerator, an investigator testified Thursday in the final day of a regulatory hearing.

The East Windsor home of Ryan and Ardena Dailey, both 31, was searched March 31, the same day authorities raided Ledford's barn at Showplace Farms, Millstone, and the Freehold Township home of veterinarian John R. Witmer, 67, said State Police Detective Sgt. Brice Cote.

Cote said he questioned Ryan Dailey about why he was in possession of the drugs.

"He said Seldon Ledford gave it to him over a year ago, and he said "hold onto it for when you need it,' " Cote said."

While I would agree that the criminal charges will be hard to sustain, the administrative charges require a much lower standard of proof, and it looks to me as though Eric is toast.

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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2006, 08:33:40 AM »

THE IRB KNOWS? THEY MAY NOW!
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You'd think with the kickback money from the Gestapo, someone who always votes their way would get an "ear tuck"...what satellites does he pick up on those ?  Eh Bookie boy ? LOL  trotter  TC
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2006, 09:43:34 AM »

ALL HEEDE KNOWS IS HOW TO KISS ERV'S AND ANDY;S ASS.
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2006, 09:45:54 AM »

modifyied post below
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2006, 09:48:30 AM »

lets bowl!!!

This is the PERFECT gig for JDakuras!

Calling Joe, calling Joe!

Sleep Easy? You gotta be kidding me!
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2006, 10:09:04 AM »

lets bowl

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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2006, 10:29:52 AM »

lets bowl!!!


The combined I.Q.s of bowling pins and they deserve to have a big ball thrown at them.   trotter  TC
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2006, 11:18:47 AM »


Heede:

"NO drugs found in Ryan Daileys APT."  Huh I don't know where you got that one. Here's the state police testimony at the hearing:

"FREEHOLD — Last week's barn raid by the State Police, which led to race-fixing charges against prominent horseman Eric Ledford, included a sweep at the home of two stable employees that uncovered banned blood-doping drugs stowed "all over the house" and in a garage refrigerator, an investigator testified Thursday in the final day of a regulatory hearing.

The East Windsor home of Ryan and Ardena Dailey, both 31, was searched March 31, the same day authorities raided Ledford's barn at Showplace Farms, Millstone, and the Freehold Township home of veterinarian John R. Witmer, 67, said State Police Detective Sgt. Brice Cote.

Cote said he questioned Ryan Dailey about why he was in possession of the drugs.

"He said Seldon Ledford gave it to him over a year ago, and he said "hold onto it for when you need it,' " Cote said."

While I would agree that the criminal charges will be hard to sustain, the administrative charges require a much lower standard of proof, and it looks to me as though Eric is toast.



HEEDE KNOWS JACKSHIT!!
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2006, 11:50:09 AM »

NO drugs found in Ryan Daileys APT.
No PROOF against Eric Ledford.
State Troopers testimony states : they have no proof Eric or any of the people in the barn
gave any horse a banned drug.
The dead horse in the barn MALOMAR MAN had a serious infection 5 days before he died.

I will go out on a limb:    EL will live to fight another BATTLE.

I PROMISE HEEDE KNOWS FOR SURE.

I will take on all rumor mongers on this post.
check the facts

I don't see ONE person on this site posting any RUMORS. All that has been discussed on this site are the FACTS that were reported by the newspapers and the Feds themselves. If you're going to say people are spreading rumors then you better blame the newspapers and the people who conducted the bust.

   Several people on this site have made PREDICTIONS what they feel will happen in the case but I don't recall anyone posting any rumors.

   Heede, I'm sure nobody really gives a  rat's ass whether or not they dodge a bullet and are allowed to race again because the damage has been done. EVERYONE will view the Ledford's as horse doper's and cheaters from here on out. How many owners do you think will want to be around these guys again? Do you think Jesk will want to carry out business as usual after they have slung his name through the mud along with theirs?

   No matter what the future holds for the Ledfords the bust that went down will be a burden on their shoulders for the rest of their life.

   I'm sure HEEDE KNOWS THAT!! 
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2006, 08:11:23 PM »

Dan,

 Who slung Jesk's name around except you and some "goof"?  Eric Ledford most likely will walk, the Trooper lied on the stand and it will come out at a later date. EL owns horses here in NJ and has a right to be at the barn. The vet will retire from the business, his charges carry no water in that the Aransap was legally obtained and sent to Ill. .The Daileys are in possesion of expired medication that the State has no proof they ever used.hmmmmmmmmm  doesn't sound so ironclad..the rest of the charges is small time stuff...it should be interesting how the NJRC will make a decision on an incomplete investigation.

Bettor

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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2006, 08:23:28 PM »

Dan,

 Who slung Jesk's name around except you and some "goof"?  Eric Ledford most likely will walk, the Trooper lied on the stand and it will come out at a later date. EL owns horses here in NJ and has a right to be at the barn. The vet will retire from the business, his charges carry no water in that the Aransap was legally obtained and sent to Ill. .The Daileys are in possesion of expired medication that the State has no proof they ever used.hmmmmmmmmm  doesn't sound so ironclad..the rest of the charges is small time stuff...it should be interesting how the NJRC will make a decision on an incomplete investigation.

Bettor

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Yeah you're right. The Feds are all dumb mother f*uckers who waist taxpayers money and guys like you know everything that they have been investigating for the last 18 months and what they have on them.

   Why didn't Jesk tell the stewards to go f*uck themselves he's not evicting anyone and he's keeping Ledford as his trainer because they are honest and didn't do anything wrong? No, he changed trainers and did what the stewards told him to do because they embarrassed him with the bust.

   Get a clue. Their name in harness racing is garbage now and always will be. They will be looked at as cheaters and doper's even if they race again because everyone knows they are and everyone knows they used that shit on the horses. 
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2006, 08:43:03 PM »

Dan,

   You're right on oner thing in that their name is mud as far as a stable goes...win or lose it's over for the training end of it. From what I heat in Chi. is that the horses remain, just the name of the trainer changes...sounds familiar?  18 months is a long time to come up with no video, no mole.....you would think there would be more

   Bettor
ps no feds involved as far as I heard...look what their big investigation against Noel Daley (leading trainer) got them ...ZERO..you think his name is mud? if you do then I've given you too much credit
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2006, 09:01:24 PM »

Dan,

   You're right on oner thing in that their name is mud as far as a stable goes...win or lose it's over for the training end of it. From what I heat in Chi. is that the horses remain, just the name of the trainer changes...sounds familiar?  18 months is a long time to come up with no video, no mole.....you would think there would be more

   Bettor
ps no feds involved as far as I heard...look what their big investigation against Noel Daley (leading trainer) got them ...ZERO..you think his name is mud? if you do then I've given you too much credit

All their names are mud and they are viewed as cheaters and dopers and that will stick with them forever.

   If they return they will have fans hanging over the fence every night of the week shouting  HEY LEDFORD DO YOU HAVE THE JUICE IN HIM TONIGHT? or HEY LEDFORD YOU CHEATER GO F*UCK YOURSELF! or HEY LEDFORD HOW DID THEY EVER LET YOU BACK! or HEY LEDFORD YOU JUICEMAN GO BACK TO OHIO WHERE YOU BELONG! or HEY LEDFORD WHERE CAN I GET SOME ARANSEP!

  Yeah, that's all he will here from fans losing their paychecks at the track every week. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2006, 01:10:13 AM »

I want to ask Heede something since he knows everything.

    What's this I'm hearing that Ledford got caught with MORPHINE PATCHES too? If it's true aren't Morphine patches a controlled substance? That could spell big trouble and jail time if you're caught with those.
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2006, 01:20:40 AM »


  RUCKER GOT CAUGHT WITH COCAINE DAN!!
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2006, 01:22:05 AM »

  RUCKER GOT CAUGHT WITH COCAINE DAN!!

Not on him he didn't. Big difference.
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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2006, 01:24:56 AM »


   NO IT'S NOT!! ERIC DIDN'T GET CAUGHT WITH ANYTHING ON HIM
EITHER DID HE??
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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2006, 01:32:24 AM »

   NO IT'S NOT!! ERIC DIDN'T GET CAUGHT WITH ANYTHING ON HIM
EITHER DID HE??

So you know about the Morphine patches, yes? Then tell us what they mean by he got caught with Morphine patches. Where they in his barn? His car? His toliet? 
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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2006, 01:53:47 AM »

dan you are correct!!! the morphine(fentanol) patches that were mentioned in the articles were for erics personal use!! i heard from a couple of friends of mine that are close with eric that eric is very big on the patches for his own personal use!! plus it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that they were not for the horses because everything in them tests positive!!
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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2006, 09:39:34 AM »

after viewing eric's mug shot, i'd be more inclined to believe he was busted with cocaine patches instead of morphine
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2006, 10:17:07 AM »

when was last time you went to a track?  THERE AIN'T NO FRUCKING FANS LEFT TO YELL ANYTHING!

If this happened in NY at Yonkers or Roosevelt in the '60s or '70s, people would be throwing bottles and shit at them

remember.. ITS A DEAD GAME LADDIE


All their names are mud and they are viewed as cheaters and dopers and that will stick with them forever.

   If they return they will have fans hanging over the fence every night of the week shouting  HEY LEDFORD DO YOU HAVE THE JUICE IN HIM TONIGHT? or HEY LEDFORD YOU CHEATER GO F*UCK YOURSELF! or HEY LEDFORD HOW DID THEY EVER LET YOU BACK! or HEY LEDFORD YOU JUICEMAN GO BACK TO OHIO WHERE YOU BELONG! or HEY LEDFORD WHERE CAN I GET SOME ARANSEP!

  Yeah, that's all he will here from fans losing their paychecks at the track every week. 

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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2006, 11:36:17 AM »

You guys are morons if you ever think Eric will ever drive again in NJ. Even if he does some how get out if this (which I highly, highly doubt), they will rule him off as an undesirable.  As far as the state police having no evidence, do you really think that they spent 18 months and gathered nothing?  Highly unlikely.  Nothing came out at the hearings because the investigation is still on going, and they would not want to compromise the investigation.
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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2006, 02:27:55 PM »

You guys are morons if you ever think Eric will ever drive again in NJ. Even if he does some how get out if this (which I highly, highly doubt), they will rule him off as an undesirable.  As far as the state police having no evidence, do you really think that they spent 18 months and gathered nothing?  Highly unlikely.  Nothing came out at the hearings because the investigation is still on going, and they would not want to compromise the investigation.

Although I agree that EL is unlikely to beat the administrative (racing commission) charges, if he does, the Meadowlands is about the only place in the country he will be able to drive. As a state-owned track, they can't rule you off the grounds if you have a valid license from the state racing commission.
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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2006, 03:32:14 PM »

dan you are correct!!! the morphine(fentanol) patches that were mentioned in the articles were for erics personal use!! i heard from a couple of friends of mine that are close with eric that eric is very big on the patches for his own personal use!! plus it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that they were not for the horses because everything in them tests positive!!

Aaaahhh lets figure this out guy's if Whittmore was giving him horse drugs he surely could have got him morphine patches for personal use and alot more. Hey NJP if this story is true then it just goes to show what I have been saying all along that they are really not testing drivers for drugs when they are driving. Otherwise he (Ledford) would have tested positive for morphine in his system.

Plenty of coke-heads driving at the BIG-M and of course they only seem to get busted when they go somewhere else and drive (what does that tell you) The name Sears ring a bell?Huh If your a top dog they dont want the bad pr.

Just because Ledford won so many races (maybe on drugged up horses) doesn't mean there were not any other trainers doing them same and picking there spots. If the vet knew so did other trainers I guarantee it.   dollar dollar dollar But they had the  dollar dollar dollar and thats what counts to the vets. dollar
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2006, 11:28:22 AM »

Yeah you're right. The Feds are all dumb mother f*uckers who waist taxpayers money and guys like you know everything that they have been investigating for the last 18 months and what they have on them.

   Why didn't Jesk tell the stewards to go f*uck themselves he's not evicting anyone and he's keeping Ledford as his trainer because they are honest and didn't do anything wrong? No, he changed trainers and did what the stewards told him to do because they embarrassed him with the bust.

   Get a clue. Their name in harness racing is garbage now and always will be. They will be looked at as cheaters and doper's even if they race again because everyone knows they are and everyone knows they used that shit on the horses. 


I don't see any badmouthing in this post, Jesk.
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2006, 01:45:21 PM »

heede nows ruffies the pill you put in girls drink to abuse her.truth
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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2006, 03:16:38 PM »

The same guy who threw the syringe at Barry Bonds will be hanging around waiting for Ledford to return.

Repuation is HUGE. Even if he gets cleared and the courts say he did no wrong, people won't buy it. People will remember all the amazing form reversals that ran over their money on a consistent basis.

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