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« on: October 11, 2010, 07:47:15 AM »


Hi All,

Want some opinions!

What causes a pacer to run in or out or be on a line badly when no apparent lameness is detected---in general--I know there can be many reasons--but I would appreciate any constructive comments from the vast experience out there.

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 07:17:24 PM »

They usually run away from pain.  If they are running out,look to the left side, if running in, look to the right side.   What lameness tests have you conducted?   Get a vet to conduct a complete physical, joint flexation, back check, tooth check, sheath or ovary check, and don't forget the hoof tester.  While the vet is conducting the physical, watch the horse eyes for any sign of pain.  you should also run your hands up and down the legs, and check the hoofs for heat. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2010, 01:48:01 PM »

  Don't forget those stifle joints.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2010, 02:06:26 PM »

  If they're running in or out and hanging on a line, it's probably a given the teeth are bad. Standardbred's teeth get "ramped" because of the unnatural way they have their heads checked up. Add hanging on a line to that....
  If you fix the lameness, you will also need to fix the teeth or the tooth alignment will probably have them setting their jaw still and remaining on the line. Just getting the teeth done will not solve the problem if the lameness is still there.
  Do both.

  Also, finding the spot and doing the teeth probably won't magically cure the horse from running in/out.  It will take a few days for him to realize he's not in pain anymore.  If he's been travelling sideways for awhile, some stretching exercises may be needed to stretch out the side he's been turning his head into*.  At the very least jog him every day with a headpole and gaiting straps/poles to get him accustomed to going straight again.  Don't let him lay on that headpole and hang on that line... pull and release until he gets the idea.  You hang on him, he's going to keep hanging back.

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 09:17:27 PM »

Train him a mile going the other direction. Is he still on the same line? Some horses will be on the outside line no matter which direction you are going. If that is the case, The old boy is not lame he just knows the shortest way around the track.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 09:51:47 PM »

  Hardline how many horses are we talking about, anyway?  You keep talking about hitting knees, being on a line, and running in/out.  Is this the same horse or do you have multiple horses with these problems?  Because all these behaviors are related, and I'm wondering if something else isn't going on... like are you training on a small farm track?  Are you using a less than competent blacksmith?
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