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« on: September 29, 2010, 10:49:03 AM »

it is sad that some threads get taken down.  many of them contain humor beyond most commerically offered stuff.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 12:09:25 PM »

Tell me about it, you can't say anything about certain guys, but lou Pena gets trashed day and night and no one does anything.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 12:55:14 PM »

There is absolutely NO REASON to delete any thread or silence anyone who's not using profanity.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 01:08:57 PM »

There is absolutely NO REASON to delete any thread or silence anyone who's not using profanity.

Do you know for a fact what was in the thread that was deleted? I didn't read it.

In my years of experience here, Janine doesn't take down whole threads unless they're just profanity laden messes that are nothing but fights, attacks on people's families, outright and over-the-top libel, or "hate" type of attacks like homophobia, racism, and misogyny. In other words, all the stuff one shouldn't see on a semi-civilized forum, or want kids and family members to see. People have to carry on and on with that sort of thing, despite warnings, to get banned. We need to remember we're all guests in Janine's house here, and all agreed when we signed up to abide by her rules. If one wants "free speech" of the lowest sort, there's always harnesshell.  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 01:11:07 PM »

JANIE DOES A GREAT JOB thumbs up
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 01:35:57 PM »

There is absolutely NO REASON to delete any thread or silence anyone who's not using profanity.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 02:03:21 PM »

Do you know for a fact what was in the thread that was deleted? I didn't read it.

In my years of experience here, Janine doesn't take down whole threads unless they're just profanity laden messes that are nothing but fights, attacks on people's families, outright and over-the-top libel, or "hate" type of attacks like homophobia, racism, and misogyny. In other words, all the stuff one shouldn't see on a semi-civilized forum, or want kids and family members to see. People have to carry on and on with that sort of thing, despite warnings, to get banned. We need to remember we're all guests in Janine's house here, and all agreed when we signed up to abide by her rules. If one wants "free speech" of the lowest sort, there's always harnesshell.  Cheesy
You are correct.  Her "house" her rules. Agree or disagree, if I want to post here I have to abide by her rules. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 02:31:27 PM »

There was a thread exposing ISLANDECHO.  It appeared to be factually correct as you guys may recall that he was pushing a few penny stocks, bragging about the HUGE money he was making on MMRF.OB.  He even a talked a few naive posters into losing their money to him & now that the stock has tanked back to .07, he was rightfully called out.

Say what you want Terry, but in my house, unless profanity is being used, I do not ask "guests" to leave.  That is just plain rude.

Pigland & Vaporize, I'll never kiss anyone's butt in anyone's house.  I'd sooner leave & never come back.

Janine is not big on freedom of speech -we've established that & that's her choice but that's not what this country is about.

As many of you know I'm a big believer in the 3rd amendment.  (So are you, trust me.)
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 02:34:17 PM »

it is sad that some threads get taken down.  many of them contain humor beyond most commerically offered stuff.
Jannie rips 90% pf mine down who cares lol post another one lol
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 02:39:42 PM »

You are correct.  Her "house" her rules. Agree or disagree, if I want to post here I have to abide by her rules. 
don't see this as "ass kissing" dolfan.  I post what I want.  If it comes down so be it but I am not going to cry about it.  I know the rules and will deal with the consequences thereof.   
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 02:52:32 PM »

don't see this as "ass kissing" dolfan.  I post what I want.  If it comes down so be it but I am not going to cry about it.  I know the rules and will deal with the consequences thereof.   

No i don't see it as ass-kissing either, however Pigland's post was.  JMO.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2010, 03:04:29 PM »

No i don't see it as ass-kissing either, however Pigland's post was.  JMO.
threads, posts etc disappear at all sites including Old and new ***.  Earlier there was a Nance thread . Poof Gone.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2010, 03:14:21 PM »

As many of you know I'm a big believer in the 3rd amendment.  (So are you, trust me.)

"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2010, 03:20:51 PM »

Yes I was surprised also that the thread was taken down as I have seen very few removed here. When there are crybabies involved the grade school principal is usually called in to protect them. Anyway there were a few hundred views and some people were show to be egotistical frauds.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2010, 03:28:07 PM »

There is absolutely NO REASON to delete any thread or silence anyone who's not using profanity.

I disagree.......there are many acceptible reasons Dolf
stalking
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all of which can be done without profanity
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2010, 04:34:54 PM »

Say what you want Terry, but in my house, unless profanity is being used, I do not ask "guests" to leave.  That is just plain rude.

The point is, this is not your house. And who was asked to leave?

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Janine is not big on freedom of speech -we've established that & that's her choice but that's not what this country is about.

"The country" is about free speech as protected from acts of Congress in the 1st Amendment. It does not give you the right to yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre, it does not give you the right to write libel anywhere, and it does not give you the right to break the rules of a private Internet forum, especially rules you agreed to when you joined the forum. Besides, I don't think Janine has ever censored anything regarding the government, unless it was maybe some racist statement about our current President. 

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As many of you know I'm a big believer in the 3rd amendment.  (So are you, trust me.)

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   No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

Yeah ... okay. I'll agree with you on that one.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2010, 05:01:35 PM »

"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."


I slip those in every once in a while just to see who's paying attention.  Good catch.  You too, Terry.  I told you you'd agree!

Terry, as far as rules agreed to when joining, there was a website who wanted to prove that no one ever reads those agreements so for April Fools Day, they put in "by signing this agreement I agree to give my soul away..."  And of course, nobody caught it!
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2010, 05:10:45 PM »

There was a thread exposing ISLANDECHO.  It appeared to be factually correct as you guys may recall that he was pushing a few penny stocks, bragging about the HUGE money he was making on MMRF.OB.  He even a talked a few naive posters into losing their money to him & now that the stock has tanked back to .07, he was rightfully called out.

Say what you want Terry, but in my house, unless profanity is being used, I do not ask "guests" to leave.  That is just plain rude.

Pigland & Vaporize, I'll never kiss anyone's butt in anyone's house.  I'd sooner leave & never come back.

Janine is not big on freedom of speech -we've established that & that's her choice but that's not what this country is about.

As many of you know I'm a big believer in the 3rd amendment.  (So are you, trust me.)

MMRF went from .09 when I posted about it here last February to .35 in June.  Nice steady uphill climb as well.  No pump and dump.  Traded millions of shares on the climb up and allowed anyone who wanted to buy and sell the opp to do so.  Many people on this board I know made thousands of dollars.  Congrats to them all.  In June the company did a bad financing deal with a dilutive company and I told all who I know were in it to sell right around .35.  I told NO ONE to keep buying at that point.  I did tell everyone to sell at .35, from my buy rec at .09.  If that is "exposing" me as you put it, then go on, expose me clown.

Also, 2 days ago I posted RTGV as a buy around .013.  Today it hit .026, already up 100%.  Closed at .022.  Moving higher.  

Go on, keep talking clown, because I can go on making you look like an azzzzz allllll day.
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2010, 07:19:30 PM »

MMRF went from .09 when I posted about it here last February to .35 in June.  Nice steady uphill climb as well.  No pump and dump.  Traded millions of shares on the climb up and allowed anyone who wanted to buy and sell the opp to do so.  Many people on this board I know made thousands of dollars.  Congrats to them all.  In June the company did a bad financing deal with a dilutive company and I told all who I know were in it to sell right around .35.  I told NO ONE to keep buying at that point.  I did tell everyone to sell at .35, from my buy rec at .09.  If that is "exposing" me as you put it, then go on, expose me clown.
 Echo, I know who you are & you are full of  BSmeter- stick to the asian girl, quit trying to pretend you're a real horseman-...... trotter

Also, 2 days ago I posted RTGV as a buy around .013.  Today it hit .026, already up 100%.  Closed at .022.  Moving higher.  

Go on, keep talking clown, because I can go on making you look like an azzzzz allllll day.
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2010, 07:31:55 PM »

I told all who I know were in it to sell right around .35.  I told NO ONE to keep buying at that point.  I did tell everyone to sell at .35, from my buy rec at .09.  If that is "exposing" me as you put it, then go on, expose me clown.

Go on, keep talking clown, because I can go on making you look like an azzzzz allllll day.

Care to show us your post when you told "everyone" to sell at .35?

Islandecho is a Fraud!!!!!!!

In red because that's what you have if he suckered you into his sleazeball scheme.
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2010, 07:55:30 PM »

Care to show us your post when you told "everyone" to sell at .35?

Islandecho is a Fraud!!!!!!!

In red because that's what you have if he suckered you into his sleazeball scheme.
Thanx for the tip. Dolfan! My suspicions , too, all along-  trotter
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2010, 08:01:14 PM »

Care to show us your post when you told "everyone" to sell at .35?

Islandecho is a Fraud!!!!!!!

In red because that's what you have if he suckered you into his sleazeball scheme.

Scheme? Yes I secretly plotted and planned for days in my bat cave, all to sucker people into a stock play that went from .09 to .35 in 3 months.  Yep...you have me all figured out.  I mean forget the fact that the stock went up 400% over 4 months with 10's of millions in shares traded, allowing anyone to buy and sell with no problem.  Forget that it was one of the best plays on the OTC market this year.  It was all just some big plot on my part to bilk people out of their money.  Undecided

As far as posting here when to sell, actually it was in May, not June. I didn't here because the previous MMRF thread had been deleted and the mods said no more stock threads....mainly because of you guys and your ***.  However I did PM the people I know who got in on the stock from here, and I posted on it many MANY times on the numerous stock boards I visit.  For example...

xxxxxxx      xxxxxxxxxx        Share        Monday, May 17, 2010 8:04:45 PM
Re: xxxxxxxxx post# xxxxxx          Post # of xxxxxx
You couldn't be more wrong. And anyone who knows me and listens to what I have said about the company knows where I coming from. I just feel it is time to sell at this point, especially after a huge run like its had.  Its had a great few months, but Im not really liking this finance deal so I shall bow out for now. I just want what is best for the long term best interests of the stock and company.
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2010, 08:06:40 PM »

And one of my many many many posts on the stock boards about the finance deal MMRF did that has screwed the stock.

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Re: xxxxxxxpost# xxxxxx          Post # xxxxxx
Bob brought in Dutchess just like a cheap scammy pink ceo would. Not saying he is one, but his actions give some people that impression. He was/is better than that, and so is MMRF. He has tarnished the entire company and shareholder base imo by having Dutchess involved.
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2010, 08:10:51 PM »

Thanx for the tip. Dolfan! My suspicions , too, all along-  trotter

That's a tip?  Where is a shred of proof in anything he said lol?  Seriously, are you insane?

You guys are just jealous.  And it eats you up inside, I mean it is making you go crazy, because all you guys *** and moaned back in Feb about the stock tip, and it went up 400%, repeat, FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT, in the 3 months following.  You guys could not have been more wrong if you tried. You have nightmares about it it bothers you so much.  And I LOVE IT!
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2010, 08:17:12 PM »

BTW, YOU are going to be his downfall, are ya happy?HuhHuhHuh? trotter
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2010, 08:19:41 PM »

Oh shut up you fat FU--, stop living of Daddy's $ - You can't wait for him to die, that's why you stress him out so much, wish he could see it- But he pities you, dummy-........ trotter

HAHA LOVE IT!!!   I rest easy knowing that no matter what, you guys proved yourself to be the absolute worst predictors in history...of anything.  400%!!!!!!! No wonder you guys lose betting horses.  I should just bet the opposite of whatever you do!  Tell me a stock you like so I can short the hell out it!!!

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2010, 08:20:18 PM »

POOF WHOLE TREADS JUST DISAPPEARED.
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2010, 08:24:08 PM »

HAHA LOVE IT!!!   I rest easy knowing that no matter what, you guys proved yourself to be the absolute worst predictors in history...of anything.  400%!!!!!!! No wonder you guys lose betting horses.  I should just bet the opposite of whatever you do!  Tell me a stock you like so I can short the hell out it!!!


SUPER ANGRY REPLY= Touchy subject! Guilty, ECHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..... trotter
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2010, 08:32:28 PM »

HAHA LOVE IT!!!   I rest easy knowing that no matter what, you guys proved yourself to be the absolute worst predictors in history...of anything.  400%!!!!!!! No wonder you guys lose betting horses.  I should just bet the opposite of whatever you do!  Tell me a stock you like so I can short the hell out it!!!


Why do you ignore the fact you f....d up your Dad's hopes in harness racing? You are such a piece of shit, destroy people's lives- including your own- Good luck-....................... trotter trotter trotter
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2010, 08:37:59 PM »

Why do you ignore the fact you f....d up your Dad's hopes in harness racing? You are such a piece of shit, destroy people's lives- including your own- Good luck-....................... trotter trotter trotter

I've never trained a horse for my dad in my life.  He owned one horse his entire life, a cheap 2 claimer.  I had nothing to do with the horse.  I finished with about a .450 batting average as a trainer over 18 years.  Ill take that any day of the week.

The really ironic thing about all of this is instead of going crazy and calling me every name in the book last spring, you could have just been quiet, took a grand or two and put it in the stock, and come out with 3 to 4 x your money.  It was just that easy.  But nope.  You wanted to play it the way you did.  How did that work out?
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« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2010, 08:49:09 PM »

Did you beat the shit out of horses? Did you cut them open?Huh
Are you a big man?Huh?
So .45 average did you know all the other crocks with that kind of average cause to bat that high you and we know you have to be a croooooooooooock
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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2010, 09:00:56 PM »

Did you beat the shit out of horses? Did you cut them open?Huh
Are you a big man?Huh?
So .45 average did you know all the other crocks with that kind of average cause to bat that high you and we know you have to be a croooooooooooock

Actually no, how would you even come up with something like that??  I never mistreated my horses. Never ever ever.  I treated my horses like my children if I had any.  At one point I didn't take a day off of work for 9 years.  No vacations, nothing.  I loved being around them and didnt trust anyone else to take care of them but me.  Anything they needed to be happy, they got.  One of the big things I always believed in was getting them out in the field/paddock every day.  Cannot tell you how many endless trips I made back and forth taking horses out to the paddock and back.  On the few days they missed going out because of rain or super cold weather, I felt so guilty.  Didnt matter the weather though for the most part. Even in a snowstorm i would put them out for a little bit just to get out of the stall.  I loved my horses, spoiled them to death.  Anyone who knows me will tell you that.  I had a high training % because I classified right and like I said, I worked my azz off and whatever they needed, they got.  My vet bills were in the thousands every month for example.  Swam a ton as well.  That was when most people weren't swimming a lot.  Now many do.
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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2010, 09:09:18 PM »

Did you beat the shit out of horses? Did you cut them open?Huh
Are you a big man?Huh?
So .45 average did you know all the other crocks with that kind of average cause to bat that high you and we know you have to be a croooooooooooock

Did you mean crooks?

Still pretty bold to assume some of these accusations
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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2010, 09:17:48 PM »

Actually no, how would you even come up with something like that??  I never mistreated my horses. Never ever ever.  I treated my horses like my children if I had any.  At one point I didn't take a day off of work for 9 years.  No vacations, nothing.  I loved being around them and didnt trust anyone else to take care of them but me.  Anything they needed to be happy, they got.  One of the big things I always believed in was getting them out in the field/paddock every day.  Cannot tell you how many endless trips I made back and forth taking horses out to the paddock and back.  On the few days they missed going out because of rain or super cold weather, I felt so guilty.  Didnt matter the weather though for the most part. Even in a snowstorm i would put them out for a little bit just to get out of the stall.  I loved my horses, spoiled them to death.  Anyone who knows me will tell you that.  I had a high training % because I classified right and like I said, I worked my azz off and whatever they needed, they got.  My vet bills were in the thousands every month for example.  Swam a ton as well.  That was when most people weren't swimming a lot.  Now many do.

Also, I never once sent a horse to the killers when he was done racing.  And I had, I don't know, 100 horses during my training career.  Most of the time I gave them away to people that wanted a pet.  I did sell a few to the amish, but knew the guy and was promised they would be used as pull horses.  In fact I had one stud, that I could have easily gotten $4000 for, that I gave away for free to a fellow horsewoman so she could breed him.  
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2010, 09:19:49 PM »

Did you mean crooks?

Still pretty bold to assume some of these accusations

Not assuming any thing I am asking.
Don't no Island Echo from any one else.
But I love what he just wrote about his horse when I asked.
I just know that when any trainer get up around .40 it is usually and almost always an indicator to any one in racing u are using something..
Also I have a real bad hang up about whips and horses I feel they are over used by a lot of drivers. So this too is real close to my heart.
I apologize cause I thought the thread started with you being fined a lot for whipping and that is why it disappeared.
I go ballistic over the whips. I am very Sorry if I jumped the gun.
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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2010, 09:28:11 PM »

Not assuming any thing I am asking.
Don't no Island Echo from any one else.
But I love what he just wrote about his horse when I asked.
I just know that when any trainer get up around .40 it is usually and almost always an indicator to any one in racing u are using something..
Also I have a real bad hang up about whips and horses I feel they are over used by a lot of drivers. So this too is real close to my heart.
I apologize cause I thought the thread started with you being fined a lot for whipping and that is why it disappeared.
I go ballistic over the whips. I am very Sorry if I jumped the gun.

No, whatever thread was about whipping had nothing to do with me.
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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2010, 09:32:22 PM »

Then I do apolygize Island Echo.
I am truely sorry.
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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2010, 09:36:46 PM »

Then I do apolygize Island Echo.
I am truely sorry.
No problem.
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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2010, 09:41:14 PM »

Care to show us your post when you told "everyone" to sell at .35?

Islandecho is a Fraud!!!!!!!

In red because that's what you have if he suckered you into his sleazeball scheme.

Who would pay any attention to penny stock tips on a horse racing forum in the first place?
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2010, 06:18:56 AM »

Did you beat the shit out of horses? Did you cut them open?Huh
Are you a big man?Huh?
So .45 average did you know all the other crocks with that kind of average cause to bat that high you and we know you have to be a croooooooooooock

fuzzy havent you defended dear ol luis pena from cali. his percentage is up there and most feel he is a crook yet no one can prove it. i dont like islands attitude myself but you cant call a spade a spade here and then call a spade something else when it suits the situation.
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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2010, 06:29:39 AM »

We were just talking about this the other day in the barn, how, before the internet came around, any fool could show up at a new venue and tout their greatness, "Oh yes, I've had this many wins, trained this many years and owned this many horses, I'm great great great!" Then later you would find out the guy had two horses and won one race....at a fair.

Somehow 18 years is actually 9 years on a conditional, and a .450 is actually a .351....and if you divide the total number of career starts by the total horses claimed to have been trained, the average is 13 starts per horse.

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