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Author Topic: Where Does Hambo Go?  (Read 2738 times)
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« on: July 21, 2010, 07:27:02 PM »

  Title askes the question.... When/if Big M vanishes as a racetrack, where does tha Annabelle, Mistletoe, Hambo Oaks, Nat Ray, Med Pace (gone I assume??), Governors Cup (again gone...) and the numerous other stakes go?
  I expect the usual amusing answers, but it asks a serious question.  Out west is broke, KY wont work.....move races to 5/8ths??? Canada??  Input here should be interesting....thanx thumbs up
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 07:30:58 PM »

Indiana maybe?
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 07:42:28 PM »

WEG PENN AND YONK. WHAT OTHERCHOICE DO THEY HAVE? I SAY SET IT UP SO THE EVNTS YOU MENTIONED ROTATE BETWEEN THOSE 3 AREAS.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 07:56:19 PM »

  Hambo at Yonkers?Huh.......ummm no thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 07:59:52 PM »

The rules state it has to be raced on a mile track. I suppose they could change the conditions but I wouldn't think that would be the first choice.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 08:02:55 PM »

Vernon
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 08:15:08 PM »

Back to its home.......Syracuse...... At least by 2013,maybe sooner...
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 08:18:33 PM »

Back to its home.......Syracuse...... At least by 2013,maybe sooner...

  No problem with that for the Hambo, but Im curious....is this speculation on your part, or some info we missed?
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 08:25:01 PM »

  No problem with that for the Hambo, but Im curious....is this speculation on your part, or some info we missed?

The first four Hambletonian's (1926-29) were scheduled to race at Syracuse.
 Only two were. The other two were held at Lexington and a week or two prior to the Kentucky Futurity. Don't recall the exact years (and too lazy to look), however believe the Lexington years were 1927 & 1929.

 In all likelihood the Hambletonian will never return to NY, for the same reason it was moved from Good Time Park after the passing of Bill Cane.

 The Hambletonian Society has taken bids every year of the existence for the upcoming scheduled year of the Hambletonian, regardless of whether they had any intention of acceptance or not. The bidding process has simply been a policy from the start.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 08:27:55 PM »

BTW, perhaps the Hambo should go to Kalamazoo, MI (where some rumors are that "Elvis is alive and living") was the under-bidder on the 1st Hambo in 1926 Wink
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 08:33:38 PM »

  No problem with that for the Hambo, but Im curious....is this speculation on your part, or some info we missed?

Rumor but from a pretty reliable sorce.. Vernon or Syracuse so you know who is behind this..  And.... that is not all bad...
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2010, 08:39:25 PM »

Rumor but from a pretty reliable sorce.. Vernon or Syracuse so you know who is behind this..  And.... that is not all bad...
  Rumors are not reliable, but I can see Syracuse if NY figures they can make money on the deal....and that is after funding, ect.....something the Big M failed to do for some time now.....so just how are they gonna pull this off when NJ called it a waste of money?
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2010, 08:47:20 PM »

1926 & 28 at Syracuse, 1927 & 29 at Lex. due to rainout at Syracuse.. 1930 to56 at Goshen, except 1943 Yonkers due to gas shortage.  1957 to 1980 at DeQuoin and 1981 to present at The Meadowlands...
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 09:36:18 PM »

It will go to Goshen, NY. They will rebuild Good Time Park.

If not, then to Canada. Mohawk or Woodbine. Big Market and a caring public!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 09:41:58 PM »

It will go to Goshen, NY. They will rebuild Good Time Park.

 They'll need to dig up and rebuild Bill Cane as well Wink
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2010, 09:50:15 PM »

1926 & 28 at Syracuse, 1927 & 29 at Lex. due to rainout at Syracuse.. 1930 to56 at Goshen, except 1943 Yonkers due to gas shortage.  1957 to 1980 at DeQuoin and 1981 to present at The Meadowlands...

  Interesting history lesson we all knew, but thread IS about the future....thanx nonetheless.....
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2010, 06:15:19 AM »

Future ?/ Okay... Book your hotel room in Central N.Y.State for 2013 Hambo....
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2010, 06:56:04 AM »

Vernon
Vernon isn't a mile track....Syracuse would be a nice choice. Bring the Hambo back to one of it's previous homes. The Syaracuse Mile would then maybe brought back to life...get the Grand Circuit races back there.

Syracuse was awesome when it was going.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2010, 07:14:57 AM »

Vernon isn't a mile track....Syracuse would be a nice choice. Bring the Hambo back to one of it's previous homes. The Syaracuse Mile would then maybe brought back to life...get the Grand Circuit races back there.

Syracuse was awesome when it was going.

They can change the specs to allow for a 7/8 mile track. They moved a lot of races that use to be raced at the Syracuse Fairgrounds to Tioga via a legislative change
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2010, 07:30:13 AM »

Vernon isn't a mile track....Syracuse would be a nice choice. Bring the Hambo back to one of it's previous homes. The Syaracuse Mile would then maybe brought back to life...get the Grand Circuit races back there.

Syracuse was awesome when it was going.

  I remember my father racing a colt in the NY Sire Stakes there in early 60's when the State Fair was also going on.  Maybe it wasn't as big as a young kid perceived it, but I remember HUGE and AWESOME!!!
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2010, 07:34:57 AM »

My guess would be the directors would vote to have it on a 7/8th mi. track before sending it to Canada.  Meadowlands is not broke (both financially and physically) yet but well bent..
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 07:47:05 AM »

The amount of contribution from the host track for this event, eliminates most all tracks.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2010, 07:50:55 AM »

1926 & 28 at Syracuse, 1927 & 29 at Lex. due to rainout at Syracuse.. 1930 to56 at Goshen, except 1943 Yonkers due to gas shortage.  1957 to 1980 at DeQuoin and 1981 to present at The Meadowlands...

i found this interesting thanks for taing the trouble to post it
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 07:57:35 AM »

Mohawk would be perfect. Just take a look at the show they put on for the North America's Cup. IMO, that is the only other place it should be at besides the Meadowlands.
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 08:02:39 AM »

i found this interesting thanks for taing the trouble to post it

 If you enjoyed the reflection?
 You might look at the photo on the Hambletonian Society's website of the trophy from those early years.
 It was quite lavish and a good 3-4 feet tall.

 Even though the society has a few photo's of that early photo, they are still hoping to come across a close-up photo which will show all the detail.
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