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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2010, 11:58:54 AM »

What about that centrifuge idea of Kevin Costners?  May have to try it until they get that well capped.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/05/19/2010-05-19_gulf_oil_spill_bp_oks_tests_of_kevin_costners_invention__device_to_clean_oil_fro.html

Lot of disasters in the last year or two.........volcanos, earthquakes, Lou Pena, Soviets in the white house.....etc.
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2010, 12:37:23 PM »

I have an excellent idea lets stick dan nance in that hole im sure he could plug it!!!!!!!!!!!!1 bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2010, 03:18:18 PM »

I have an excellent idea lets stick dan nance in that hole im sure he could plug it!!!!!!!!!!!!1 bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing bowing

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2010, 03:32:21 PM »

What about that centrifuge idea of Kevin Costners?  May have to try it until they get that well capped.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/05/19/2010-05-19_gulf_oil_spill_bp_oks_tests_of_kevin_costners_invention__device_to_clean_oil_fro.html

Lot of disasters in the last year or two.........volcanos, earthquakes, Lou Pena, Soviets in the white house.....etc.
THATS FUNNY   GRINDER!!!!!!!
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2010, 04:03:48 PM »

I live here on the bay in Florida and if they screwup my fishing theres gonna be some splaining to do  bang head
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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2010, 09:57:25 PM »

I think they should try duct tape
Duck tape fixes everything !!!
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2010, 11:10:22 PM »

HuhHuh?  Very early on I heard on some news show that all of the European oil rigs have some type of shut off built in which can be used from an offsite faciltiy to actually turn off or shut it off...Is anyone aware of such a thing or did I mishear ? 
As to this catastrophe, did anyone see the 60 min piece on the proximate cause of this ? 

Its callled a BLOWOUT PREVENTOR....they had one it failed. I guess they use to require two but rules have changed. On land we use one everytime we do anything on a well....its basically sets of rams that can be closed together to block any flow from the well

The problem is at 5000 ft below surface the water pressure is about 17 Mpa....a Mpa being equal to about 140 pounds per square inch....so they are dealing with almost 2400 pounds per square inch for pressure down there from the water
 How do you hit a hole thats say 12-24 inches across 5000 feet deep in water?


 The thing is its all based on hydrostatics and they cant amass any without the pipe  from the surface to the well below.....if the pipe was there still the mud would have been sent down and its weight would have  been great enough to stop the flow

 I work in the oilfield in Western Canada and the consultants we were working with last week were talking about this......nobody has a clue how they will get it stopped


google blowout proventer  to see what it looks like
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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2010, 11:18:50 PM »


snip/snip

 I work in the oilfield in Western Canada and the consultants we were working with last week were talking about this......nobody has a clue how they will get it stopped

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Thanks for the info!

I certainly feel better now! doh crossedfingers  bang head doh crossedfingers bang head

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« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2010, 01:22:39 AM »

Truth is---

GOD HELP US ALL.

TS

Itf we stopped relying on an invisible God and enforced common sense safety regulations these events wouldn't happen!

Now that Corporations are officially a person in the eyes of the Supreme Court, these BP Executives need to go to JAIL!
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« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2010, 03:49:21 AM »



I wish Red Adair was alive. I am sure he would have found the solution to the problem.

This is a disaster of the greatest magnitude.
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« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2010, 04:25:55 AM »

haliburton, what a surprise

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/31/us-congress-links-wa-oil-spill-to-bps-gulf-disaster/
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« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2010, 03:24:07 PM »

Got a feeling that with all the anger toward the Government and our President that these ***hole at BP are screwed.  They should start off by dropping an anvil on their nuts.
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« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2010, 04:17:09 PM »

Itf we stopped relying on an invisible God and enforced common sense safety regulations these events wouldn't happen!

There is no such thing as an atheist on a battlefield.

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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2010, 05:25:47 PM »

I have a feeling this is going to go down as the one of the biggest stories ever. On a 911 level. If they could just blow it up to stop it they would. Its going to put BP out of business. No more drilling for 2 years. 6 dollar gas is a year away.
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« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2010, 05:38:42 PM »

Yep...All we need to do is go back and review the contingency plan that B.P., Trans Ocean and Halliburton "must" have had in place before being allowed to drill 1 mile below the oceans surface....
Wow! There wasn't one?
I'm shocked....NOT!

I had to jump through more hoops to get my electrical signed off for my jacuzzi than these clowns did in order to drill ONE MILE under the sea surface.

This is truly a disaster of epic proportions...And for some ungodly reason, B.P. (and other big oil) is capped at 75 million for clean up....Way to go you oil WHORES in the U.S. Senate and Congress

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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2010, 06:17:50 PM »

I have a feeling this is going to go down as the one of the biggest stories ever. On a 911 level. If they could just blow it up to stop it they would. Its going to put BP out of business. No more drilling for 2 years. 6 dollar gas is a year away.
Sadly, I fell the same way.
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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2010, 07:29:39 PM »

I have a feeling this is going to go down as the one of the biggest stories ever. On a 911 level. If they could just blow it up to stop it they would. Its going to put BP out of business. No more drilling for 2 years. 6 dollar gas is a year away.

Bin Laden could not have created a bigger mess..........Between the financial meltdown and now this, it seems clear that the enemy is within.
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2010, 09:10:36 PM »

Bin Laden could not have created a bigger mess..........Between the financial meltdown and now this, it seems clear that the enemy is within.
THEY KNOW HOW TO HURT US,THATS FOR SURE!!!!!THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD OF BP TO CAUSE BILLIONS IN DAMAGE      GOD ONLY KNOWS     THEY ARE WORTH 200 BILLION AND ONLY LIABLE FOR 75 MILLION OF POSSIBLY THE BIGGEST MAN MADE CATASTROPHE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2010, 09:20:20 PM »

HERE IS MORE INFORMATION, NONE OF IT IS POSITIVE !!!

Relief for Gulf is 2 months away with another well

Oil impacts Redfish Bay in Louisiana's birdsfoot delta, where the Mississippi River empties into

Protester outrage over Gulf spill Reuters Related Quotes Symbol 
By MATTHEW BROWN, Associated Press Writer Matthew Brown, Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS The best hope for stopping the flow of oil from the blown-out well at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico has been compared to hitting a target the size of a dinner plate with a drill more than two miles into the earth, and is anything but a sure bet on the first attempt.

Bid after bid has failed to stanch what has already become the nation's worst-ever spill, and BP PLC is readying another patchwork attempt as early as Wednesday, this one a cut-and-cap process to put a lid on the leaking wellhead so oil can be siphoned to the surface.

But the best-case scenario of sealing the leak is two relief wells being drilled diagonally into the gushing well tricky business that won't be ready until August.

"The probability of them hitting it on the very first shot is virtually nil," said David Rensink, incoming president of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, who spent most of his 39 years in the oil industry in offshore exploration. "If they get it on the first three or four shots they'd be very lucky."

The relief well drilling and temporary fixes were being watched closely by President Barack Obama, who planned to meet for the first time Tuesday with the co-chairmen of an independent commission investigating the spill. A senior administration official said the meeting will take place at the White House. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting had not been formally announced.

For the relief well to succeed, the bore hole must precisely intersect the damaged well. If it misses, BP will have to back up its drill, plug the hole it just created, and try again.

The trial-and-error process could take weeks, but it will eventually work, scientists and BP said. Then engineers will then pump mud and cement through pipes to ultimately seal the well.

As the drilling reaches deeper into the earth, the process is slowed by building pressure and the increasing distance that well casings must travel before they can be set in place.

Still, the three months it could take to finish the relief wells the first of which started May 2 is quicker than a typical deep well, which can take four months or longer, said Tad Patzek, chair of the Petroleum and Geosystems Engineering Department at the University of Texas-Austin. BP already has a good picture of the different layers of sand and rock its drill bits will meet because of the work it did on the blown-out well.

On the slim chance the relief well doesn't work, scientists weren't sure exactly how much or how long the oil would flow. The gusher would continue until the well bore hole collapsed or pressure in the reservoir dropped to a point where oil was no longer pushed to the surface, Patzek said.

"I don't admit the possibility of it not working," he said.

A third well could be drilled if the first two fail.

"We don't know how much oil is down there, and hopefully we'll never know when the relief wells work," BP spokesman John Curry said.

The company was starting to collect and analyze data on how much oil might be in the reservoir when the rig exploded April 20, he said.

BP's uncertainty statement is reasonable, given they only had drilled one well, according to Doug Rader, an ocean scientist with the Environmental Defense Fund.

Two relief wells stopped the world's worst peacetime spill, from a Mexican rig called Ixtoc 1 that dumped 140 million gallons off the Yucatan Peninsula. That plug took nearly 10 months beginning in the summer of 1979. Drilling technology has vastly improved since then, however.

So far, the Gulf oil spill has leaked between 19.7 million and 43 million gallons, according to government estimates.

In the meantime, BP is turning to another risky procedure federal officials acknowledge will likely, at least temporarily, cause 20 percent more oil at least 100,000 gallons a day to add to the gusher.

Using robot submarines, BP plans to cut away the riser pipe this week and place a cap-like containment valve over the blowout preventer. On Monday, live video feeds showed robot submarines moving equipment around and using a circular saw-like device to cut small pipes at the bottom of the Gulf.

The crews will eventually cut the leaking riser and place the cap on top of it, the company hopes it will capture the majority of the oil, sending it to the surface.

"If you've got to cut that riser, that's risky. You could take a bad situation and make it worse," said Ed Overton, a Louisiana State University professor of environmental sciences.

BP failed to plug the leak Saturday with its top kill, which shot mud and pieces of rubber into the well but couldn't beat back the pressure of the oil.

Meanwhile, the location of the spill couldn't be worse.

To the south lies an essential spawning ground for imperiled Atlantic bluefin tuna and sperm whales. To the east and west, coral reefs and the coastal fisheries of Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Texas. And to the north, Louisiana's coastal marshes.

More than 125 miles of Louisiana coastline already have been hit with oil. "It's just killing us by degrees," said Tulane University ecologist Tom Sherry.

It's an area that historically has been something of a superhighway for hurricanes, too.

If a major storm rolls in, the relief well operations would have to be suspended and then re-started, adding more time to the process. Plugging the Ixtoc was also hampered by hurricane season, which begins Tuesday and is predicted to be very active.

Three of the worst storms ever to hit the Gulf coast Betsy in 1965, Camille in 1969 and Katrina in 2005 all passed over the leak site.

On the Gulf coast beaches, tropical weather was far from some tourists' minds.

On Biloxi beach, Paul Dawa and his friend Ezekial Momgeri sipped Coronas after a night gambling at the Hard Rock Casino. Both men, originally from Kenya, drove from Memphis, Tenn., and were chased off the beach by a storm, not oil.

"We talked about it and we decided to come down and see for ourselves" whether there was oil, Momgeri said. "There's no oil here."

Though some tar balls have been found on Mississippi and Alabama barrier islands, oil from the spill has not significantly fouled the shores.

Still, the perception that it has soiled white sands and fishing areas threatens to cripple the tourist economy, said Linda Hornsby, executive director of the Mississippi Hotel and Lodging Association

"It's not here. It may never be here. It's costing a lot of money to counter that perception," Hornsby said. "First it was cancelations, but that evolved to a decrease in calls and there's no way to measure that."

Yet there was fear the oil would eventually hit the other Gulf coast states. Hentzel Yucles, of Gulfport, Miss., hung out on the beach with his wife and sons.

"Katrina was bad. I know this is a different type of situation, but it's going to affect everybody," he said.

Attorney General Eric Holder plans to visit the Gulf Coast on Tuesday and meet with state attorneys general. Several senators have asked the Justice Department to determine whether any laws were broken in the spill.

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Associated Press writers Kevin McGill, Ben Nuckols and Greg Bluestein in Covington, La., Holbrook Mohr in Biloxi, Miss., and Darlene Superville at Andrews Air Force Base, Md., contributed to this report.
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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2010, 11:20:18 PM »

watch this video to see what can happen when drilling goes wrong.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHol4ICeDoo
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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2010, 11:30:10 PM »

watch this video to see what can happen when drilling goes wrong.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHol4ICeDoo
VERY SCARY !!
AND IT CANNOT COMPARE TO THIS GLOBAL DISASTER !
ANYONE GOT A ROCKET GOING TO THE MOON ?
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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2010, 11:36:23 PM »

There is no such thing as an atheist on a battlefield.

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This is a myth!
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« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2010, 11:41:20 PM »

As much as I supported Obama, he has screwed us all on this one!

Allowing BP control for so-o-o long was something I would have expected Bush to do.

Corporations care only about profits, not people's safety or their environmental impact!

How can any government allow them to police themselves?
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« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2010, 04:48:23 AM »


This is a myth!

Ever been on one???

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« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2010, 12:07:05 PM »

As much as I supported Obama, he has screwed us all on this one!

Allowing BP control for so-o-o long was something I would have expected Bush to do.

Corporations care only about profits, not people's safety or their environmental impact!

How can any government allow them to police themselves?

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